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Heroin Heroin IV Total Newbie - Advice on How to Avoid OD

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TastyMud

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Greetz Everyone

I have managed to source some good quality heroin via online procurement. I know its good because all the user reviews from this online source say the gear is very good. I have in my posession 3 grams. The stuff I have is Afghan Type 3. Due to major issues with depression and anxiety that have totally ruined my life I have decided to start down the road of opiates. I am aware that opiate addiction is not ideal but at the same time I have nothing to live for in my depressed and miserable state so my plan is to go out living on a high. I have spent the last several years locked in my flat so I really dont care anymore. Due to my previous life I have enough money to fund my habit for several years to come.

My question relates to IVing Heroin as I have never taken Heroin or any other opiate before. For my first experience I want to have the absolute maximum buzz possible and an almost out of body experience without being dead. In a sense I want to push it to the max. Based on the cost I assume that taking 3 grams at once is too much but I honestly have no idea. I dont even know how much a typical syringe will actually hold. I assume once I inject this stuff I wont be able to reinject as I will be too out of control?

A bit about myself I am very unfit as I have been house bound for three years now. I havent taken any drugs for about the same amount of time. The only thing is I have been on a coctail of medication poison for the past two years ranging from SSRIs, SNRIs, SSREs, Triscycs etc. My last AD med I stopped taking about 2 months ago. I have also taken benzos before but the last one I took of these was about two months ago also. Due to all this medication I dont really feel any effects from benzos and if I do drink alcohol I dont actually get drunk. It seems my tolerance to all intoxicating substances is very high. maybe its cause my brain is fried I dont know? I wondered if my tolerance to heroin would be the same?

I am wondering what maximum dose is going to be sensible without never waking up again?

I assume taking the whole 3G I have at once is going to be too much for a first time use. I dont even know if its possible to take this much at once? I dont want to smoke it as any type of smoking makes me very sick. Just smoking cigarettes makes me feel very very bad.

I was also wondering can I some how mix heroin in some kind of liquid form and drink it. Or is it edible?

Sorry for all the Newb type questions. Any advice very much appreciated.
 
Geez man, I know life's rough but there's no reason to end it---and believe me you're playing Russian Roulette if you want to IV dope straight away...I sniffed it for 10 years before I switched!!! And with the other Rx's you're on (btw benzos potentiate dope; in other words it increases the potency or kick of H!!!) With all else I seriously don't think you should do it... Call someone you love or someone who will listen to you and get help...I really don't want to aid in your self-destruction so I'll stop here....THINK DUDE(or DUDETTE)!!!!
 
I simply can’t tell you how fast you are going to put yourself in massive danger if you are not tolerant to opiates and are trying to slam heroin on your first mary-go-round.

Since you have freebase heroin, you need to acidify it into a salt so you can dissolve it in water.

If this is your first run in with heroin, I advise you not to go this route as overdose/high ratio is very very high...

Also, you do not combust heroin like you would smoke plant material. You vaporize (chase) it off foil or use an oil pipe.

The dose you are to use as a dead beginner to opiates is not measurable to the naked eye for such a potent opiate. I do mean small. (2-5mgs)

That dose is damn near the size of a grain (maybe two) of salt. But, since you shit is going to have some form of cut, you can only gauge it out. (all but impossible without the proper measuring equipment)

You best bet (least dangerous) way to gauge the strength of your gear is to chase it.

If you do manage to break out a rig, a swab, iso-alcohol and 5% white vinegar, you have been warned.

It will be a complete waste to try and use this orally. It will be broken down into morphine and have a very low bio-availibility. This may make you think you are taking in more when in actual reality your body is destroying it.
 
You probably dont wanna shoot up hwroin for your first opiate experience. Start off snorting a line the size of a match head wait 10 minutes and go from there. Opiates are wonderful but if ypu disrespect them they will disrespect you! Start small and dont mix with benzos or alcohal.
 
crimsonjunk said:
You probably dont wanna shoot up hwroin for your first opiate experience. Start off snorting a line the size of a match head wait 10 minutes and go from there. Opiates are wonderful but if ypu disrespect them they will disrespect you! Start small and dont mix with benzos or alcohal.
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Snorting will not work, he has freebase heroin...

He will have chunks of wasted material doing nothing in his sinuses.

This is from experience. LMAO Long story bro....
 
As said above you have freebase heroin so make sure you add citric acid to it. First you have underlying issues and if heroin is the way you want to deal with it ok, but its only a band aid and its not going to fix whats underneath and ultimatly an addiction is only going to add more stress and crap to your life.

Anyway make sure you research alot about IV'ing safely and what not. About dosage start with about a matchhead sized dose and work your way up from there. Generally when you notice a difference in you breathing and you feel that you almost have to breathe concisouslly your getting dangerously close to OD'ing
 
SuperHans68 said:
About dosage start with about a matchhead sized dose and work your way up from there. Generally when you notice a difference in you breathing and you feel that you almost have to breathe concisouslly your getting dangerously close to OD'ing
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I agree with everything you said but this.

There is absolutely no turning back once you plunge that plunger. He is at this moment a great danger to himself simply based on the opiate at hand, and his level of opiate usage, which is basically non-existant...

He is a very rapid catalyst for a very very steep overdose...

We can’t possibly tell him the correct dosage without him first sampling it in another safer route of administration. (Two of them useless in this case. Orally and nasally)

The only real thing I advise the OP to do in this case is indeed gather up some foil, a tissue roll and a lighter. He just doesn’t have the tolerance to shoot up safely.

I simply cannot advise one to dump an unknown potency batch into a vein with no tolerance. That is just asking for a trip to the morgue...
 
You have 3 grams #3 heroin. What you do is this: measure up 100mg, smoke some untill you feel like you are as high as you want to be, see how much you have used and then reduce that dose by 60% and then use it IV. This you do after you have sobered up of course.
 
Toz said:
You have 3 grams #3 heroin. What you do is this: measure up 100mg, smoke some untill you feel like you are as high as you want to be, see how much you have used and then reduce that dose by 60% and then use it IV. This you do after you have sobered up of course.
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This is what I was getting at.
This is the safest method I learned to use heroin by.

I was scared shitless of fatally ODing some years ago. I had tar. I freebased the shit just so I could smoke it to test for potency.
 
So you're not addicted to opiates, but want to be addicted because you are depressed?

This issuch a horrible idea. Smoke it, don't IV it.

Horrible idea. Go check out The Dark side forum and find out what happens when the dope runs out. This is not fun.
 
TastyMud....

May i recommend chucking the H down the toilet....getting back to the website where you scored it and getting some psychs ?

I'm not one of those people who thinks psychs are 'magic drugs' [ touched the face of god....one with the universe blah blah blah ] but...i do believe they can give you a good kick up the arse when you need it most.

Try pushing it to the max / going out on a high with psychs...at least that way there is a chance you may see a way out of your depression / learn to love life again..

You can always get more H if you wanna...

Yes depression and psychs can be dodgy...but a bad trip is a fleeting thing and may be just what you need, H seems more of permanent 'solution'
 
This is such a painfully terrible idea. With no opiate tolerance, it's just about impossible to safely iv heroin. Like PJ said, the dose you would need is so small it's impossible to eyeball.

I would advise against doing this at all, via any ROA. You're just asking for trouble. I've suffered from depression for as long as I can remember, and let me tell you the only periods of happiness and success in my life have also been periods of sobriety.

Also, have you considered the anti-depressants were helping? Since 2 months off them and you're considering doing heroin?

You desperately need to educate yourself. 3 grams would kill you before you had the plunger down. It is terrifying you even have to ask that question. Do you know how to iv? Do you have anyone who could come over and supervise? Do you have access to clean needles? Cookers? Micron filters? Alcohol swabs? Do you have access to naloxone in case of an overdose, as well as someone educted enough to adminiter it?

If you're set on doing this and don't just flush this shit down the toilet right now, you should consider smoking it first as others have suggested. But you also need to find a sitter because you could still easily OD. And if you insist on going through with this, please do some research, including these links:

The beginners guide to heroin, read it, reread it, and ask any questions you may have:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/627822-Heroin-The-Beginner-s-Guide

IV complications, see the shit we go through by injecting our drugs and the fear and panic it induces in even experienced users:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...d-Info-MEGATHREAD-amp-FAQ-III-Vs-I-Want-Blood

The worst thing you've done to get drug money, read about how low we sink and KNOW it will fucking happen to you too, your money will run out and you will be just as desperate as the rest of us:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/406157-What-s-the-worst-thing-you-ve-done-to-get-drug-money

The opiod withdrawal megathread, learn what withdrawal is and how shitty it feels and how impossible it is to feel normal post addiction:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/569872-The-Opioid-Withdrawal-Megathread-and-FAQ

What's the first symptom you have that let's you know you're starting to withdrawal? First hand experiences of what it feels like to run out of drugs as an addict:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...have-that-lets-you-know-youre-starting-to-W-D

Case studies on complications from iv drug use (it could happen to you!):
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/445570-Case-Studies-(It-could-happen-to-YOU-)

Micron filtering megathread, learn it, live it, love it:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/481622-Micron-Filtering-Mega-Thread-and-FAQ



So please read these links and many more. Ask questions, get answers. Get your 50 posts and bluelighter status and PM some of us to see how addiction has ruined our lives. And check out the recovery forums (the dark side, mental health, sober living) and see people struggling with sobriety and mental health issues. Talk to us, I gurantee there is someone on. This board that can relate to every feeling you're having and most everything you've been through to bring you to this point.

Just please reconsider. You will get addicted, money will run out, the drug trafficking websites couls get shut down, you could be arrested, you could die. If all of that sounds fine, at least educate yourself.

<3
 
I also thought of writing alot about my heroin addiction and how it started with me being depressed and how the opiates initially cured the depression, then made things much worse but then I realized there is no point since nobody ever listens anyway.

Just know that we all know, this is not the solution to your problem. In fact, you will just dig the hole even deeper. You're just trading your shovel for an excavator.
 
Like everyone else said I think you should reconsider. But if you decide to do it you should know that 3g is a lot of dope. That amount wouldve lasted me a week when I was deepest in my addiction and shooting dope 5-8 times a day. When I had a large tolerance to opiates, a dose of .2 would get me high enough (it was tar though, I'm not sure the equivalent to powder. I would suggest to split one gram into tenths, and one tenth into fourths and use a fourth of a tenth for your dose. You can always do more if you dont feel it but you can never do less if you die. But like other people suggested you really should smoke it first to test it. Go to the Dark Side and read the horror stories and if you still want to do it just know what your getting yourself into.
 
Read "the same old fears" post and read it again. One of the most helpful and informative posts I've read here in a few years.
 
This is awefull, takes me back to when i first used over 11 yrs ago . Old one ... But back then if i knew what i know now, i wouldnt of tried it. SERIOUS !
 
Larc said:
Read "the same old fears" post and read it again. One of the most helpful and informative posts I've read here in a few years.
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Aw thanks! That makes it worth all the ridiculous search/copy/paste -ing I did since I typed my response on my phone. I hope the OP finds it helpful as well.
 
Jesus bro...I mean, why go straight to IV heroin? At the very least you could have started with some oxycodone or hydrocodone- something you could take orally...even with heroin, going for #4 which you can snort would have been better.

Smoking it really is your best option.

But, if you absolutely are going to do this- the first time I took heroin it was homebake & I didn't really have a tolerance- I had taken 300mg of codeine a few times, but anyone can do that without a problem. I was 17, 5'7, 90kg...I took 20mg (I know it was 20mg because it was a 20mg morphine sulphate pill turned into heroin) and that was like getting hit in the head with a sledgehammer. I puked essentially immediately, just managing to crawl out of my chair and be violently ill in a rubbish bin. 2 friends of mine (also without tolerance) took 10mg (they split a 20mg pill turned) which was probably a better initial dose...20mg was definately too much first time, despite enjoying myself.

The important thing to note about my advice is I'm one the few heroin users who can hand-on-their-heart tell you how much heroin they have just taken...teh truth is, it was probably less than 20mg because some of it would have stayed in the pill and not all of it would have been turned into heroin...but I COULD NOT have taken more than 20mg of heroin. And that was too much first time without a tolerance.

Be safe. I hope that your life turns a corner, whether or not heroin is gonna do that for you.
 
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