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Heroin in syringe shelf life?

AtxBigBallin

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I cooked some black tar up the other night and went ahead and put it in a point and is ready to roll. But i'm saving it for the weekend. Does the H lose potency from sitting in a needle already cooked? I wasn't sure but was just wondering. Thanks alot
 
It wont lose potency in such a short time but bacteria and other microbes will strat growing.

I suggest keeping it in the refridgerator, that will help to prolong the safe life of it.

Certainly black tar is the worst form of heroin to rig up and they hold on to and I dont understand how somebody could hold on to the full needle of junk anyways...?

Shoot it and be done with it, buy some fresh junk for the weekend
 
But would it be ok to shoot though? or should I re cook it again? because i cooked it on wendsday and want to use it tommarow, friday. cause i don't want bacteria in me
 
cooking it would get rid of the bacteria, should at least, but i dont know much about heroin so i wouldtn be able to tell you about what it would do to the drug itsself
 
But would it be ok to shoot though? or should I re cook it again? because i cooked it on wendsday and want to use it tommarow, friday. cause i don't want bacteria in me


The longer it's in the rig the more chance you have of getting something nasty growing in there, especially since it's tar.

At this point I'd either shoot it and get more for the weekend (as already suggested) or just toss it (which is what I'd personally do.) Otherwise you're begging for a dirty shot, maybe some 'cotton fever.' Not good
 
I have a rig half full of tar that ive had for more than a month. Im sure it has a civilized colony of bacteria in it by now. I dont even think i can re-cook it, because it also probably has blood in it too, gross..........
 
diamorphine HCL or No4 heroin turns to morphine when mixed with water after about 5 hrs. Dont know about the disgusting sounding black tar stuff as thankfully it isnt present in Europe. But from what i have read about it it would a) be dangerous in terms of bacteria, and b) eventully breakdown to morphine when mixed with water.
 
ebeneezer_geeza said:
diamorphine HCL or No4 heroin turns to morphine when mixed with water after about 5 hrs. Dont know about the disgusting sounding black tar stuff as thankfully it isnt present in Europe. [...]

Now, now. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. The best dope I've ever done was black tar. Better than east coast (US) white, better than European brown. Sure it looks a little gnarly in the syringe, dark brown to black solution, sometimes so dark you can't see the blood when you register the vein, but it is nevertheless awesome!!! [Salivating as I think about it].

Regarding the question of the OP, I personally don't see how it is possible to store a full syringe. I've never had one that lasted more than about 60 seconds.

Miles

Thank you for reading my little posting.
 
ebeneezer_geeza said:
^its just the name, it sounds disgusting. Also the scare of that flesheating bacteria doesnt do a lot for it.

I'll grant you that "flesh eating bacteria" has a bad ring to it. But AFAIK that was an isolated case. Never happened to me in years of shooting the stuff.

Miles (who is clean now and mostly glad of it...)

Thank you for reading my pointless little posting.
 
dont know how long ago u tried afgan (fawn coloured rock-heroin that floods uk market), but the purity is something like 20 - 80%. Now i read Tar (mexican) is much lower than this. this is why many Brits and Dutch smoke H rather than sniff or IV, the purity is much higher and it doesnt matter if you waste it. Do ppl smoke tar?
 
ebeneezer_geeza said:
dont know how long ago u tried afgan (fawn coloured rock-heroin that floods uk market), but the purity is something like 20 - 80%. Now i read Tar (mexican) is much lower than this. this is why many Brits and Dutch smoke H rather than sniff or IV, the purity is much higher and it doesnt matter if you waste it. Do ppl smoke tar?

I guess we're getting a little off-topic here, but I don't mind if others don't. It was three years ago or so that I had the brown in Europe, it was ok. I've heard a different thing about the tar; someone (maybe on adh?) quoted a police report on seized tar heroin in New Mexico (US), and the claim was that it was up there in the 70-80% range. Who knows? From personal experience, comparing with, say, some allegedly good-quality east coast (US) white (the kind that comes in the little stamped "bags"), the tar is damned good. I had a good source though.

As for smoking it, yes there are people who smoke tar. Not me though.

Miles

Thank you for reading my little posting.
 
Yes i also want to defend tar. I've had some tar that was suprising pure/potent. Yea it sounds nasty and what not, but dont knock it till you've tried it. At least with tar you know your getting either diacetylmorphine (the smell makes it obvious) or 6-monoacetylmorphine, with some possible unreacted morphine. Nevertheless, you know it is from a natural origin. White powder dope could be any number of opiods, fentanyl, levorphanol, drywall. I have had bad tar......but most of the tar ive encountered is at the very least decent. And it tastes nasty smoked, i only inject it. Ive had tar that was so hard, that when crushed formed some reddish but still stick crystals. It was good dope. So again, dont knock it till you try it. I admit that some good heroin #4 is better than any tar, but there is tar that rivals the potency and purity of the powder that circulates on the east coast. As a heroin user, you should be the last person to stigmatize a drug based on a name. And there are ways to purify tar into brown powder, even white powder if your so inclined, but the yeilds would be around 8-10%. Still the results of the purification of already good tar, results in some pretty powerfull stuff.
 
I have seen people go to the emergency room off $20 or less amounts of tar heroin. In southwest US its very potent for the most part.
When it arrives its potent....depends on how many people step[ on it before you get it. If you live in say Texas within couple hours from border its better.
Black tar is good.
Oh and I found a needle full of tar I stashed in my closet that was almost a year old I had forgot bout. I banged it and im still here .

BUT, I suggest you squirt it in spoon, reheat and then use.
 
Miles323 said:
Now, now. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. The best dope I've ever done was black tar. Better than east coast (US) white, better than European brown. Sure it looks a little gnarly in the syringe, dark brown to black solution, sometimes so dark you can't see the blood when you register the vein, but it is nevertheless awesome!!! [Salivating as I think about it].
lol you really need to move to Australia, I hardly ever use opiates at all but I cringe at the thought of shooting black tar, it's No.4 here only.
 
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