Misc Heroin euphoria vs Meth euphoria?

[wudbutcher]

Never did meth only heroin but I had friends you know -- it feels very electric like clean idk you won't feel tired or some shit. In one word similar to a very potent adderall. On the other hand, heroin it's very lovely similar if alien had a ''indica'' strain ahaha.

Never? Think iv coke right after the train goes by but before the fiend starts screaming. That 10 seconds of sweet razor sharp silence. For 8 hrs.

 

[mtu mwendawazimu]

I agree that objectively meth produces the most dopamine. However depending on your preference, most people will choose the drug that takes them to their special place.

I've IVed meth heroin and coke, and meth wins closely followed by coke and heroin is last. But i have never had really good heroin before. I did give it an honest try, i just threw up for 24 hours.

 

[wudbutcher]

Never tried h myself. Closest I’ve tried were k4s. Great for coke binge comedowns. But you’d better be where your gonna stay. Drink handy, cigarette put out. Made the mistake of standing up once, faceplant. My sis would shoot hers and start cleaning lol.

 

[evo4ever]

I cant really comment, but the closest drugs ive tried are Oxycodone and Cocaine and I'd have to say Oxy feels better but I don't really know why I guess the euphoria feels more "natural".

 

[Pequea768]

not true lol cmon man, really?
(Unless you mean personally)


This is true, sadly. But if you quit and are able to stay clean, you learn to forget about it and move on, after a while.

its an unfair comparison. H is better in pretty much every way including the level of euphoria you can reach from it.

What about the level on the shitbag scale. May I also say there is no such thing as a recreational H user. Very selfish drug. I still enjoy doing nice things for people on meth. On Heroin.....everyone leave me be.

 

[Pequea768]

Never tried h myself. Closest I’ve tried were k4s. Great for coke binge comedowns. But you’d better be where your gonna stay. Drink handy, cigarette put out. Made the mistake of standing up once, faceplant. My sis would shoot hers and start cleaning lol.

Your sis prolly had experience doin speed before dope. Meth rewires your brain. Only opiate that made me do the laundry was vikiden.

 

[Zephyn]

When I last relapsed I was experimenting with "goofballs" - heroin and meth IV'd together. Beats either on its own.

 

[Stimfreak2234]

Meth boosts the dopamine in the brain over twice as high as heroin yet many people prefer heroin and even Vicodin to meth. I have only done prescription opioids a few times but the euphoria was more so of a intense relaxation and felt extremely natural compared to any drug I’d say. It wasn’t the “ I just fucking won the lottery I’m a fucking god” type euphoria that I have grown to love. But the kind where everything is ok and I am content with myself and people and my life. Their is a lot of paranoia and anxiety accompanied with the insane rush of a stimulant as stimulants send your body into fight or flight mode. I find that stimulants in general are very unnatural type of euphoria and high such as sexual desires and not sleeping or eating. Opiates seem to be the ultimate chill pill I’d imagine it’s hard not to enjoy heroin as I’ve heard your problems melt away and it’s like a warm blanket. For me I love stimulants especially amphetamines/meth. But I can easily see how someone wouldn’t like them. You get anxious and hyper vigilant asf and your body can feel very tense you know. Very easy to do retarded shit on amphetamines cuz I’m so confident and up. When I did opioids awhile back it just felt like relaxation and warm massage. Meth is more of a wild adrenaline ride with an evil undertone.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

What about the level on the shitbag scale. May I also say there is no such thing as a recreational H user. Very selfish drug. I still enjoy doing nice things for people on meth. On Heroin.....everyone leave me be.

Your experience is definitely not universal.

I found meth addicts very selfish and annoying. Most meth addicts will say they are gonna do something for you, but then they get high & get caught up doing some kind of project (or jerking off to porn) for hours and hours instead.

All addicts, no matter the drug, can be selfish some times tho.

I am too busy feeling raging horny on meth to care about doing anything else. Where as on heroin, I feel warm, soft, cuddly, more passionate and patient with people(this varies, some times people irritate me on it too), always offering to help some one do something or I end up cleaning everything I can.

It's funny cause meth is mostly known for it's "stimulating" properties and people often picture some one one obsessively cleaning on it. But when I was on meth, sure I was awake, but I didn't have the energy or the motivation to do anything responsible or clean. Most of my motivation goes toward having as many orgasms as I can. lol

Where as on heroin, the "stimulation" it brings on feels more natural. Almost like what I imagine normal people who have no mental illness and are able to clean and function and do normal tasks must feel like. lol And then after the opioid stimulation wears off, I can nod and go to bed/take a nap. Some times this happens in reverse, depends on the opioid, nod first then energy (heroin) or first energy and then nodding (trams, buprenorphine)...

In the end, the way stimulants work on the brain, they actually do change a persons behavior, the way they think, their judgement, etc..
Heroin doesn't really change a person. Sure it depends on the person and of course people do desperate things in withdrawal, but the change that happens on meth is different. It feels much deeper and more of a change in the fundamental core of your being.

Not to mention meth is actually causing permanent long term brain damage, where as with heroin, not so much, or at least not on the same scale.
A person can be a long term heroin/opioid user and still be pretty normal but a long term stimulant user is definitely gonna experience a cognitive decline and things like parkinsons, damage to dopamine receptors, organ damage, paranoia, sleep deprivation, etc..

 

[Murphdawg]

After trying both iv, heroin is more of a painkiller numb pleasure and meth is like a really powerful but very lightweight body euphoria. I'd choose meth over heroin. It's a hell of a rush and I feel like I'm floating through air but heroin is more like someone stapled me into the floor and I'm not moving for a while

 

[lovemissile66]

Having naturally been an anxious, depressed person for most of my life...the idea of taking ANY stimulant was just not going to be in the cards for me. I never had

the urge to want to be up for days (as sleep is in my top 5 fave things to do), or take apart electronics, or pick my eyebrows completely off. This is my daughters doc.

Anything speedy. She got hooked as a teen on Ritalin, then Adderall then straight up speed scripts from a shady Dr. So, I have seen firsthand how she reacts to it.

Very scattered, takes HOURS to figure out what to wear for the day, only to take it all off and then not leave her room. Heroin is IT for me. I IV'd my first shot and

didn't think much about it. Didn't get what the big deal was. Fast forward a month to that second shot...OH YEAH! The good 'ol days when a single cap would last

me all day. I was a functioning addict/am a functioning addict. 18 years now. My boyfriend, now deceased from an overdose, could kick it for 3-4 days. I could not.

I had to have it at any cost, because it was the only thing that made me feel normal. Not fucked up, not standing hunched over, not sitting on a couch nodding off.

I got shit done. It energized me. Not at first. But a couple years in and I accomplished a lot. Got my degree, always had a job, bills paid. Then I required more.

And I was scoring for the boyfriend as well. (story for another day). Its work. 24/7 full time job with no benefits or sick leave payment. I wanted off the roller-

coaster, but didn't want to be sick. That is the kicker isn't it? Toward the end of your usage, its all about not wanting to be sick. Instead of going to treatment,

I robbed a bank. Yup, true story. In my mind, I thought it would go one of two ways: a) I get away with some money and continue on the same road for a bit

or b) l get caught and the jig is up. And I know subconsciously that is what I wanted. I could never kick on my own. Me and the boyfriend always had good

good intentions of quitting, but its impossible when there are two users living together. So, I did a two year bid. And thought about getting high the whole

time. And when I was released in 2013, it took two weeks before I was back on. I hate that I am in bondage to a drug, but at the same time, its the only

time I feel like my real self. Boyfriend died in my arms in 2016. That fucked me up proper. So, no looking back since. And I am 55 now. I started late,

I was 35 that first hit. Oh, and to Pequea, there are definitely recreational users out there. I know plenty of people that don't have that addict gene. They

can party for a weekend and not think about the shit again. To me, they are like unicorns!!! Sorry for the rambling. Bottom line-I love heroin. It keeps me

from feeling the full effect of life. Like, life is too harsh. So heroin blunts it for me. And after the death of my man...forget it. Not ready to mourn that yet.

peace, people

 

[Sky God]

Definitely heroine or even fentynal.
I never found meth very euphoric but it instantly makes me want to get naked . Last time I did meth I ended up in the hospital and was trying to hook up with the guy in the bed across the hall, a couple male nurses and a security guard and the doctor lol.
Imagine story time at the dinner table for a few families

 

[CfZrx]

When dosed correctly for your tolerance, both are heavenly in their own right. Heroin is way better because you can look relaxed and cool, speed will have you chatting up your grandmas friend, or jacking off for several hours or more.
Now meth plus heroin? That is NIRVANA. Heroin first, injected, followed by meth puffed in an oil burner pipe is the highest I've ever been.

 

[JohnBoy2000]

In the end, the way stimulants work on the brain, they actually do change a persons behavior, the way they think, their judgement, etc..
Heroin doesn't really change a person. Sure it depends on the person and of course people do desperate things in withdrawal, but the change that happens on meth is different. It feels much deeper and more of a change in the fundamental core of your being.

Glad it's not just me then;

I'm trying to figure out if any other drugs can yields a response of this nature.

LSD perhaps?

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Glad it's not just me then;

I'm trying to figure out if any other drugs can yields a response of this nature.

LSD perhaps?

Maybe. I have no experience with long term LSD binges though.
The change that happens with meth is very negative though. Never heard of LSD causing brain damage or making some one wanna participate in a 24hr group sex marathon. lol

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

Maybe not brain damage per se or suddenly participating in 24hr group sex marathons but there are often some very noticeable differences in thinking and behavior that can occur to people who start tripping on LSD and/or other psyches too often.

 

[Juniper Bruhmomentius]

I think both are great, just for different scenario's. Slitghly More on the meth side.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Maybe not brain damage per se or suddenly participating in 24hr group sex marathons but there are often some very noticeable differences in thinking and behavior that can occur to people who start tripping on LSD and/or other psyches too often.

Oh definitely. Especially if they have any predisposition to schizophrenia and such. Same with dissociative drugs. Long term DXM binges started making me delusional, paranoid and manic. But they went away after I quit tripping on it all the time.

 

[Juniper Bruhmomentius]

I Was certain i could see the future on lsd. Twas fun times.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

I thought the same thing during stimulant psychosis a couple times. Also thought I was starting to slightly develop the ability to move objects with my mind if I concentrated just right. Too bad is was all delusions and too bad at the time I didn't realize that because I kept using more hoping i would get better at it.