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Heroin detox using subutex

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DesperateHousewife

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Hi. I'm new here, but I've been reading along in some of the forums here during my research. I'm not sure if this is where this goes, but i think so. I'm really just looking for advice and support.
I started smoking heroin about a year ago. I smoked a good bit, and didn't go a day without any.
I was lucky enough to get a few subutex. As I've been tapering off of the dope, I've been taking the subs. I take the sub in the morning when i get up and I'll take a few small hits throughout the day.
Tomorrow is the day i plan on quitting. I haven't smoked anything for a few hours, But i feel fine right now.
My question is; will tomorrow be a terrible day for me and i should probably just stay around the house? Or would it be okay for me to go out with a friend and her kids? Does that seem like something that could help ensure that i don't try to do anything?

Any tips for this first day? What should i expect? i cut down drastically on my usage and feel confident that tomorrow, whether I'm feeling like total crap or not, that I can go without using anything at all (besides the sub) and that it can be my first day of recovery.

By the way; I'm taking 2mg of sub daily.
 
DesperateHousewife said:
Hi. I'm new here, but I've been reading along in some of the forums here during my research. I'm not sure if this is where this goes, but i think so. I'm really just looking for advice and support.
I started smoking heroin about a year ago. I smoked a good bit, and didn't go a day without any.
I was lucky enough to get a few subutex. As I've been tapering off of the dope, I've been taking the subs. I take the sub in the morning when i get up and I'll take a few small hits throughout the day.
Tomorrow is the day i plan on quitting. I haven't smoked anything for a few hours, But i feel fine right now.
My question is; will tomorrow be a terrible day for me and i should probably just stay around the house? Or would it be okay for me to go out with a friend and her kids? Does that seem like something that could help ensure that i don't try to do anything?

Any tips for this first day? What should i expect? i cut down drastically on my usage and feel confident that tomorrow, whether I'm feeling like total crap or not, that I can go without using anything at all (besides the sub) and that it can be my first day of recovery.

By the way; I'm taking 2mg of sub daily.
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Hi, welcome to BlueLight :)
Well to start you should have a plan and time when you will be taking the subs; i.e. Right as you wake up unless you don't feel like shit. To me I feel like you're gonna be slighty sick IMO. Let other ppl help I'm not fond of H I like pills and been using pills for years and have no urge to try H again. Stay safe and don't mix the two please for your own well being :).
 
Thank you for your reply. I realize that mixing them is bad and i was actually thrown into precipitated withdrawals the first time i took it (I got one suboxone before i got the subutex), i don't want to do that again; but i can't lie -i feel it's helped me tremendously to taper down on the dope. I'm careful to wait now, at the very least, 12 hours.

And yes, I'd advise against using heroin. It's a terrible drug. It really is. I started on pain pills and graduated to heroin, as most people do, and let me tell you: detoxing from pain pills was a lot easier than what I've been trying to do.
 
DesperateHousewife said:
Thank you for your reply. I realize that mixing them is bad and i was actually thrown into precipitated withdrawals the first time i took it (I got one suboxone before i got the subutex), i don't want to do that again; but i can't lie -i feel it's helped me tremendously to taper down on the dope. I'm careful to wait now, at the very least, 12 hours.

And yes, I'd advise against using heroin. It's a terrible drug. It really is. I started on pain pills and graduated to heroin, as most people do, and let me tell you: detoxing from pain pills was a lot easier than what I've been trying to do.
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Agreed 100% I take a break every month from pain killers and the WD is sooo much easier than H. Like I said it's best to just stick to a plan on how much and when you're gonna be taking your subs. I'd stick to subs only and double up if needed to fight the WD. Now, if you feel like you need H it's cravings and you shouldn't feel like you want any opiate on subs but if you do I suggest cannabis unless cannabis is a trigger for your H use. Now, another thing which I don't recommend due to my addiction to benzo's and how BAD the WD is from these bastards- but, I will say .5-1mg of xanax can allow you to forget about H but you shouldn't use benzo's the whole time detoxing you don't want to become an addict on benzo's like me especially due I your already pretty bad habit. If needed use benzo's but I don't suggest it 100%.
 
Been there, done that too, unfortunately. i used to be a xanax addict and quit those a few years ago. I am prescribed klonopin because i really do have crazy high anxiety (runs in the family), so i do have a few of those left. My Rx is due to be filled in a few days.

I'll be taking either 2/3mg when i first wake up. Would it be a bad idea to go out with my friend tomorrow- we'll be gone for hours, as she's taking the kids to a sort of "discovery center"? Or would you recommend staying home?
 
DesperateHousewife said:
Been there, done that too, unfortunately. i used to be a xanax addict and quit those a few years ago. I am prescribed klonopin because i really do have crazy high anxiety (runs in the family), so i do have a few of those left. My Rx is due to be filled in a few days.

I'll be taking either 2/3mg when i first wake up. Would it be a bad idea to go out with my friend tomorrow- we'll be gone for hours, as she's taking the kids to a sort of "discovery center"? Or would you recommend staying home?
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I would think about it for yourself and or take the sub right before you go out with them; like as you're getting ready to go pop it under your tounge. You may want to bring an extra sub with you incase but I doubt you'll feel bad, you may like I said want to take another with you if you crave H or atleast take .5-1mg of it instead of the whole thing.
 
DesperateHousewife said:
Been there, done that too, unfortunately. i used to be a xanax addict and quit those a few years ago. I am prescribed klonopin because i really do have crazy high anxiety (runs in the family), so i do have a few of those left. My Rx is due to be filled in a few days.

I'll be taking either 2/3mg when i first wake up. Would it be a bad idea to go out with my friend tomorrow- we'll be gone for hours, as she's taking the kids to a sort of "discovery center"? Or would you recommend staying home?
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Also, the lack of your Kpins may leave you with anxiety unless you're good at being in public places. p.s. Subs, as you may know now, can make you energetic and can cause anxiety.
 
Edaw said it all pretty much perfectly. Subs can cause anxiety and give you energy. And if you really want to go out than your best bet is to take some of a sub before hand and get yourself feeling well before you go. And if you have some kpins, take those to level your head a bit. And if it's the Discovery Center in Johnstown, PA, thats NOT the place to be when your not feeling well. Trust me, I've taken my son there with my ex when I was going through it and I thought I was gonna start climbing the walls there with all the kids screaming. lol
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Lol at discovery center...I too have been there withdrawaling....no fun.

Basically make yourself a taper schedule and stick to it.

like day 1: 2mg
day2 1.5mg

etc.

You are going to feel sick no matter what you do. It is just paying the piper for feeling so good before. Clonazepam is not exactly the best detox med, nor is xanax. Diazepam and ativan are good. Diazepam as a general all day mellower (as your anxiety and depression go through the roof during detox) and ativan to get you through really tough patches of anxiety and depression. However, do not take these like candy...use them as needed, and only when needed.

Tyrosine, l-theanine, turmeric, magnessium, and a few over the counter anti diahrea meds should help mitigate a lot of the symptoms.

PM for help getting through PAWS (post acute withdrawal syndrome)
 
manboychef said:
Lol at discovery center...I too have been there withdrawaling....no fun.

Basically make yourself a taper schedule and stick to it.

like day 1: 2mg
day2 1.5mg

etc.

You are going to feel sick no matter what you do. It is just paying the piper for feeling so good before. Clonazepam is not exactly the best detox med, nor is xanax. Diazepam and ativan are good. Diazepam as a general all day mellower (as your anxiety and depression go through the roof during detox) and ativan to get you through really tough patches of anxiety and depression. However, do not take these like candy...use them as needed, and only when needed.

Tyrosine, l-theanine, turmeric, magnessium, and a few over the counter anti diahrea meds should help mitigate a lot of the symptoms.

PM for help getting through PAWS (post acute withdrawal syndrome)
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Yep you posted what I should have near the end of your post. Those meds in this post above are much safer and or better in general for detox. I'd personal IMO prefer diazepam for detox due to it's half-life and simple but mild strength.
 
manboychef said:
Lol at discovery center...I too have been there withdrawaling....no fun.

Basically make yourself a taper schedule and stick to it.

like day 1: 2mg
day2 1.5mg

etc.

You are going to feel sick no matter what you do. It is just paying the piper for feeling so good before. Clonazepam is not exactly the best detox med, nor is xanax. Diazepam and ativan are good. Diazepam as a general all day mellower (as your anxiety and depression go through the roof during detox) and ativan to get you through really tough patches of anxiety and depression. However, do not take these like candy...use them as needed, and only when needed.

Tyrosine, l-theanine, turmeric, magnessium, and a few over the counter anti diahrea meds should help mitigate a lot of the symptoms.

PM for help getting through PAWS (post acute withdrawal syndrome)
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Also; P.s. Don't use the OTC drug called loperamide, due to it's odd WD and off putting general effects over time. Some people will even have small but noticeable convulsions to this strong OTC drug; we're aren't sure why but I've personally had WD from it and had taken a large dose of 12mg-14mg to increase the effects of hydrocodone, let me tell you BAD idea. I had to take 2-3mg's of xanax just to stop shaking and to prevent any convulsion.
 
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