Heroin compare/contrast to E, GBL

[rollergirl76]

Okay let's pretend we are in high school again and do "compare/contrast essays" for what it is like to be on heroin versus rolling on E, or versus GBL+E (my favorite, as I have posted like 100 times here, might as well change my username to GE or something).
I am asking because though I am terrified of heroin and freak out when I think someone I know is on it, I DO wonder why people say it is "the best drug feeling in the world," when I cannot even think that anything could beat good E+good GBL.
I know a topic like this was just closed a couple days ago, but if someone wants to tell me that they have done herion, and have also tried and enojyed E+GBL, and how they are different/same, it would satisfy a ton of my curiosities!

 

[Hellfiregurl]

I've never tried gbl, so I wouldn't know how that changes an e trip. I don't think you could really compare the drugs too well. While you could say they have things in common perhaps, the whole experiences are completely different. Here's a crappy attemt though to try to satisfy that curiousity.
Feelings towards others-
E- love without rationalization
H- complete comfort around people, love for
those you care about
so both drugs can evoke love, just in different manners.
Feelings about life-
E- everything is amazing and great,
H- not a care in the world, safety net feeling
both drugs make you feel like nothing can go
wrong.
Visuals-
E- can have some great trippy open eyed visuals,
especially if your really getting mda not mdma, closed eye trippy visuals also common
H- can have lucid dreams, or mini dreams while
nodding, or cev's when eyes are closed(rare)
Thats my attempt at comparing the two.
[ 18 April 2002: Message edited by: Hellfiregurl ]

 

[Meky]

Try the search engine seeing as this sort of thing is posted all the time. But on that note... heroin feels a lot more rational... the love feels so real. The love I feel on E feels really fake, and feels obviously drug induced. But I've never mixed with GBL so I don't know about the comparison there.

 

[preacher]

just to let you know, you are trying to compare apples to oranges here.
that being said, i have found herion(opiates in general) are embraced more by the crowd that has been-there-done-that, alittle more "jaded" attitude. once everything else gets old and boring opiates are the only thing left that fits the bill. opiate users seem to be more "layed back" if you will. by that i mean instead of going out to a club/party/rave they prefer to sit around somewere peaceful and nod.
E and GBL are great for the younger users who are more into social events, such as raves.
this is my interpretation of the drug scene and my experience probably will not be the same as everyone elses. just thought i'd give you my view.

 

[rollergirl76]

Thanks for the replies, because you actually gave me a LOT more info than I knew at all.
Every drug that I have tried except E and with it, GBL, makes me feel pretty ill so I usually stay away from anything other than what I know will give me a decent-to-awesome time. But I wanted to know how the experiences would compare and contrast. You helped a lot guys!
Heroin does not get me too excited to try, I'd probably be so nervous and scared if I tried it that I'd make myself have a bad trip as I have done with almost every other drug, but I DO love lucid dreams, and I get them about twice a year and they are absolutely incredible. That is the only thing about heroin that seems interesting to me as an individual, but I can definitely see the appeal it can have on different people who are over other drugs, or whose personalities are unlike mine in some ways.

 

[Hellfiregurl]

I was probably using the word lucid incorrectly, once in awhile I do that. What I meant is that when you nod, you'll sometimes have a quick dream during it. They can be rather strange and hard to recall, I think i recall having one about trees melting once, but its all very hazy now to remember.

 

[rollergirl76]

Oh, yeah, lucid dreaming is when you are in a real dream yet know you are dreaming and you can make all sorts of weird shit happen, the whole time you know you are dreaming! Someone told me K was a bit like that, but I have never tried it.
I know what you mean though, like when you nod off. Okay.

 

[joeballer]

rollergirl, have you tried acid? Thats probably more what you are looking for. K would definately do the job... Like the guy said above, heroin is more for laid back people. This is drastically understating the facts, but heroin makes you really relaxed, non motivated(Physically), and gives you a warm fuzzy feeling. E never worked for me. You would probably love K if you like acid. Try a candy flip, (E+Acid) u might have a good time...

 

[PhreeX]

Heroin and GHB - in many ways they are the same... the highs can't really be compared but they are alike in ways such as:
*) Too much and you're out, though a GHB overdose isn't going to be inherently fatal, when someone OD's on smack you need to get them some help..
*) Both are dose sensitive as it takes a LITTLE to go from "really fucked up" to "out" ..
*) Both are viewed in a negitive way by those not apart of the users sub-culter.. take your brand-new, shiney factory issue candy raver.. a kid whos real name is Thigpin but goes by "PLUR Infinity" .. he loves his marijuana, acid, and ecstasy - everything else is horrible, evil, deadly, etc.. out of all the drugs, HEROIN and GHB are the ones that PLUR Infinity would NEVER consider using because, well, they are just EVIL and are GARE-OHN-TEED to ruin the lives of ANYONE that comes in contact with them, hell, just saying the name "HEROIN" is enough to bring Thigpin, 'err, PLUR Infinity down to the point he needs an airplane and vicks shotgun to get him back to where he was..
I don't see why you could be so scared of heroin, it's only a chemical, and if you have taken pain killers in excess then you got an idea about what you're in for with smack..
Asfor it being the most pleasurable drug in the world - I have said this so many times I should write a macroe for it.. HEROIN IS NOT THE MOST PLEASURABLE DRUG IN THE WORLD, IMO A HIGH DOSE OF PURE MDMA GIVES YOU A BETTER EUPHORIA THEN HEROIN! .. heroin is the most complete nothing you have ever experienced.. while ecstasy amplifies your current mood, heroin is good at taking a depressed brain and letting a little light into it.. if your bitch girlfriend just left you, some heroin can make you forget about it .. after a friday at work, some heroin can melt you into the weekend perfectly ..
The best way I can put it - heroin is the most dynamic drug ever.. it's good when you have a normal day and have a headache, or if you are going to a club and want something that will put you in a hardcore party mood!
If you want more info search this forum.. there are a ton of posts in here detailing most everything about the drug, also check erowid..