ratherbewater
Bluelighter
i consider myself very experienced with cocaine (i've been using on and off, in varying amounts & frequency, for 7-8 years) and somewhat experienced with opiates/oids, some more than others, but in this case i am referring specifically to heroin. i only tried it for the first time within the last year and only started doing it with any frequency and in larger amounts in the last few months (i do not use regularly/habitually, and for me, "larger amounts" means "up to a whole bag at once", so i'm not exactly a pro).
anyway, i just thought i'd share my experiences with plugging heroin and cocaine (separately!), since i've never posted in this forum.
i've now plugged heroin a few dozen times, though only recently, after reading a lot on here and seeing that many people enjoy this method and consider it second in strength only to IVing. i managed to obtain a syringe from which i removed the needle. i have plugged varying amounts, the most being probably about 2/3 bag of good stuff (and i say "good" based on the word of those more experienced). i hope i'm doing it right -- i put the powder on a spoon, mix it with water (generally 15-20cc) until it dissolves (or at least 95% of it does), then -- well, you can guess that part. every time has been successful in that i've gotten satisfying effects, but if i'm doing anything wrong, i'd like to know.
i find that this method of ingestion comes on more slowly, but more smoothly; i go from sober (or whatever level of high i am) to high all at once, but in a very "calm" sort of way, not a sudden, jarring "whoa, i'm fucked up" sort of way. i find that there is little to no "coming up" involved, and that i just go from zero to plateau, stay there for a while and then it fades. i find the high to be slightly different than snorting though only in small ways, nothing that i'd consider a tremendous change in effect; snorting involves, for me, a coming-up period and tends to make me nod more easily.
effects kick in, at least initially, within a few minutes, and generally are felt entirely within 10 minutes, give or take. this method generally causes no nausea, or at most transient nausea that passes quickly; though i've only puked once from heroin, snorting seems more likely to cause nausea for me. (a swig of pepto and/or a hit or two of weed almost always fixes things.) i find that the high is slightly more subtle, and more "stable", with a somewhat longer duration. i also find that i can do more this way without or with significantly less negative effects than i get with snorting (like nausea, nodding, dry mouth, etc.). it must not just be a "me thing" because besides everyone on here who likes it, i managed to get my boyfriend to do it (not an easy feat), and now he does that more than he snorts. also, a very experienced friend says that it is indeed the closest you can get to the feeling of IVing without actually IVing; he says that it's not much weaker and lacks the rush of shooting but otherwise is very close.
i alternate between sniffing and plugging depending mostly on my mood. besides producing a longer, more steady, stronger high, without the nausea and such, i also wonder if i'm correct in thinking that plugging is slightly healthier than snorting because even though it's not "safe" either way, cutters and such are better suited for the rectum than the nose -- that is to say, the rectum can "handle" that stuff better than the nose (because the nose is more fragile, because the rectum is made for dealing with waste, etc.)
does anyone know if i'm doing anything wrong? have suggestions? opinions? experiences?
as for cocaine, i have only tried plugging it once when a friend decided to and talked me into doing a small dose. he did it first, about an amount equal to a line about this big: ________________. he did this exactly the same way as we do with heroin, though the cocaine totally dissolved within seconds, leaving the water completely clear (though adding 10cc-ish to it), whereas heroin leaves some "dirt" behind, which we assume is filler, and which usually goes in the syringe anyway b/c it's so small.
it hit him within 2-3 minutes (though i thought someone on here said it took more like 10-20?). he described it as more of a rush, more of a body than mental high, stronger, and slightly longer-lasting (and even when wearing off, it left him able to not want another line for a while). he said the rush was comparable to shooting, but obviously considerably weaker.
i finally prepared a dose slightly smaller than his (though both of us did about the same as we'd do at a time sniffed). it burned just slightly, but not nearly enough to really be a bother, and it passed within a minute or two. (he said it didn't burn him at all, so this could be just a me thing, or caused by something else. it did not burn INSIDE where the dose went, just near the outside.) it began kicking in a few minutes later, and got stronger over the next few minutes before reaching a plateau (i'd say it took less than 10 but more than 5 minutes to reach full effect).
the rush was very noticeable in my chest; if i still had panic attacks and/or was not medicated for them, i think i may have not liked that feeling/been scared of it. i wouldn't want to feel it more strongly either way, but it was okay as it was. it felt very similar to the initial feelings caused by taking adderall or similar orally, except the plateau of the cocaine was more like someone paused adderall's come-up rush. it wasn't quite as "good" IMO as adderall, but it was very similar; it felt more like that than cocaine, at any rate. it was definitely considerably stronger than snorting it; i can't remember the last time i rushed significantly from cocaine, but i would have to do at least twice as much nasally to get near that feeling, if not three times and even then, the rush is rare, let alone a rush that lasted as long as a high from a line does (at least 20 minutes).
it was definitely a body high. snorting cocaine definitely causes noticeable physical effects for me, but the mental effects are more pronounced (and the parts i like best). snorting cocaine makes me chatty, happy, confident, "hostessy", etc., and these things tend to overshadow the bodily effects because i simply am too busy to notice them very much. plugging cocaine still caused those effects (though something was missing that i can't quite figure out; i think it was just the ritual of cutting and doing lines), but the most noticeable effect was the strong rush in my chest. i commented that it felt like it "should be" scary, but wasn't, although i wouldn't want to plug much more than i did and make the rush much stronger. it was actually somewhat distracting; i found it hard to concentrate, etc., until it wore off somewhat; it was physical more than mental so i wanted to move around, not sit and type or chat, although i was happy to do the latter things as well.
the rush stayed the same strength for a good 20-30 minutes before slowly fading. i felt that i'd at least mostly come down from the dose by about the 30-35 minute mark even though the rush was still noticeable, but i felt no need to immediately do more (whereas i usually do a line every 15-30 minutes) -- it was like it made it so that i felt okay (not crashy) for a longer time than sniffing does.
overall, i would say that plugging cocaine is more like adderall than the feeling of snorting cocaine, that it is considerably stronger, somewhat longer-lasting, and i really like the fact that it spares my nose. however, the rush was almost too much (again, not scary, but it was almost to the point where i was so high i couldn't focus or sit still, which annoys me) and i had to wait until it wore off almost entirely before being truly able to do anything. i also found that this rush was such a noticeable thing that it was possibly the only noteworthy effect; i still felt the way i do mentally from cocaine but without plugging cocaine sober (instead of after snorting some), i can't say for sure if that was from the plugged amount or if that just maintained those effects from previous doses. and i really think that cocaine is a very ritualistic drug -- that cutting and doing the lines is almost as much a part of the high as the high itself (i've heard IV users say the same thing about preparing to and then actually shooting), so even a stronger high wasn't as satisfying without that ritual. it also would be tedious to use this method regularly, because i'd have to prepare to and then plug a dose about twice an hour, which is a chore; snorting it three-four times an hour is just easier.
i don't know if i'll plug coke again or not. i'd like to try it sober -- anyone have experiences? i'm also curious about dosing; what percentage of a person's normal sniffed dose should be used? (again, i did an amount at least very close to the amount i normally snort.)
so as of now, i think i prefer plugging heroin to sniffing, though i still sniff regularly, probably as often or slightly more often than i plug, and that i mostly prefer sniffing cocaine to plugging it, although i am willing to try that again if i can learn more about it/how to do it/etc. -- i mean, it does make X amount of cocaine last twice as long, feel twice as strong, and spares my nose, but if it's just going to give me that rush and nothing else, i don't know.
i guess that's it. if anyone has any tips/corrections on the actual method i'm using, please share. i'd also love to hear others' experiences, and learn more, such as:
how much stronger, really, is plugging v. snorting for either drug?
is plugging more, less, or equally dangerous/unhealthy than sniffing?
comparative dosages -- how much should be used rectally compared to nasally?
and just about anything else that anyone has to offer/add. thanks!
anyway, i just thought i'd share my experiences with plugging heroin and cocaine (separately!), since i've never posted in this forum.
i've now plugged heroin a few dozen times, though only recently, after reading a lot on here and seeing that many people enjoy this method and consider it second in strength only to IVing. i managed to obtain a syringe from which i removed the needle. i have plugged varying amounts, the most being probably about 2/3 bag of good stuff (and i say "good" based on the word of those more experienced). i hope i'm doing it right -- i put the powder on a spoon, mix it with water (generally 15-20cc) until it dissolves (or at least 95% of it does), then -- well, you can guess that part. every time has been successful in that i've gotten satisfying effects, but if i'm doing anything wrong, i'd like to know.
i find that this method of ingestion comes on more slowly, but more smoothly; i go from sober (or whatever level of high i am) to high all at once, but in a very "calm" sort of way, not a sudden, jarring "whoa, i'm fucked up" sort of way. i find that there is little to no "coming up" involved, and that i just go from zero to plateau, stay there for a while and then it fades. i find the high to be slightly different than snorting though only in small ways, nothing that i'd consider a tremendous change in effect; snorting involves, for me, a coming-up period and tends to make me nod more easily.
effects kick in, at least initially, within a few minutes, and generally are felt entirely within 10 minutes, give or take. this method generally causes no nausea, or at most transient nausea that passes quickly; though i've only puked once from heroin, snorting seems more likely to cause nausea for me. (a swig of pepto and/or a hit or two of weed almost always fixes things.) i find that the high is slightly more subtle, and more "stable", with a somewhat longer duration. i also find that i can do more this way without or with significantly less negative effects than i get with snorting (like nausea, nodding, dry mouth, etc.). it must not just be a "me thing" because besides everyone on here who likes it, i managed to get my boyfriend to do it (not an easy feat), and now he does that more than he snorts. also, a very experienced friend says that it is indeed the closest you can get to the feeling of IVing without actually IVing; he says that it's not much weaker and lacks the rush of shooting but otherwise is very close.
i alternate between sniffing and plugging depending mostly on my mood. besides producing a longer, more steady, stronger high, without the nausea and such, i also wonder if i'm correct in thinking that plugging is slightly healthier than snorting because even though it's not "safe" either way, cutters and such are better suited for the rectum than the nose -- that is to say, the rectum can "handle" that stuff better than the nose (because the nose is more fragile, because the rectum is made for dealing with waste, etc.)
does anyone know if i'm doing anything wrong? have suggestions? opinions? experiences?
as for cocaine, i have only tried plugging it once when a friend decided to and talked me into doing a small dose. he did it first, about an amount equal to a line about this big: ________________. he did this exactly the same way as we do with heroin, though the cocaine totally dissolved within seconds, leaving the water completely clear (though adding 10cc-ish to it), whereas heroin leaves some "dirt" behind, which we assume is filler, and which usually goes in the syringe anyway b/c it's so small.
it hit him within 2-3 minutes (though i thought someone on here said it took more like 10-20?). he described it as more of a rush, more of a body than mental high, stronger, and slightly longer-lasting (and even when wearing off, it left him able to not want another line for a while). he said the rush was comparable to shooting, but obviously considerably weaker.
i finally prepared a dose slightly smaller than his (though both of us did about the same as we'd do at a time sniffed). it burned just slightly, but not nearly enough to really be a bother, and it passed within a minute or two. (he said it didn't burn him at all, so this could be just a me thing, or caused by something else. it did not burn INSIDE where the dose went, just near the outside.) it began kicking in a few minutes later, and got stronger over the next few minutes before reaching a plateau (i'd say it took less than 10 but more than 5 minutes to reach full effect).
the rush was very noticeable in my chest; if i still had panic attacks and/or was not medicated for them, i think i may have not liked that feeling/been scared of it. i wouldn't want to feel it more strongly either way, but it was okay as it was. it felt very similar to the initial feelings caused by taking adderall or similar orally, except the plateau of the cocaine was more like someone paused adderall's come-up rush. it wasn't quite as "good" IMO as adderall, but it was very similar; it felt more like that than cocaine, at any rate. it was definitely considerably stronger than snorting it; i can't remember the last time i rushed significantly from cocaine, but i would have to do at least twice as much nasally to get near that feeling, if not three times and even then, the rush is rare, let alone a rush that lasted as long as a high from a line does (at least 20 minutes).
it was definitely a body high. snorting cocaine definitely causes noticeable physical effects for me, but the mental effects are more pronounced (and the parts i like best). snorting cocaine makes me chatty, happy, confident, "hostessy", etc., and these things tend to overshadow the bodily effects because i simply am too busy to notice them very much. plugging cocaine still caused those effects (though something was missing that i can't quite figure out; i think it was just the ritual of cutting and doing lines), but the most noticeable effect was the strong rush in my chest. i commented that it felt like it "should be" scary, but wasn't, although i wouldn't want to plug much more than i did and make the rush much stronger. it was actually somewhat distracting; i found it hard to concentrate, etc., until it wore off somewhat; it was physical more than mental so i wanted to move around, not sit and type or chat, although i was happy to do the latter things as well.
the rush stayed the same strength for a good 20-30 minutes before slowly fading. i felt that i'd at least mostly come down from the dose by about the 30-35 minute mark even though the rush was still noticeable, but i felt no need to immediately do more (whereas i usually do a line every 15-30 minutes) -- it was like it made it so that i felt okay (not crashy) for a longer time than sniffing does.
overall, i would say that plugging cocaine is more like adderall than the feeling of snorting cocaine, that it is considerably stronger, somewhat longer-lasting, and i really like the fact that it spares my nose. however, the rush was almost too much (again, not scary, but it was almost to the point where i was so high i couldn't focus or sit still, which annoys me) and i had to wait until it wore off almost entirely before being truly able to do anything. i also found that this rush was such a noticeable thing that it was possibly the only noteworthy effect; i still felt the way i do mentally from cocaine but without plugging cocaine sober (instead of after snorting some), i can't say for sure if that was from the plugged amount or if that just maintained those effects from previous doses. and i really think that cocaine is a very ritualistic drug -- that cutting and doing the lines is almost as much a part of the high as the high itself (i've heard IV users say the same thing about preparing to and then actually shooting), so even a stronger high wasn't as satisfying without that ritual. it also would be tedious to use this method regularly, because i'd have to prepare to and then plug a dose about twice an hour, which is a chore; snorting it three-four times an hour is just easier.
i don't know if i'll plug coke again or not. i'd like to try it sober -- anyone have experiences? i'm also curious about dosing; what percentage of a person's normal sniffed dose should be used? (again, i did an amount at least very close to the amount i normally snort.)
so as of now, i think i prefer plugging heroin to sniffing, though i still sniff regularly, probably as often or slightly more often than i plug, and that i mostly prefer sniffing cocaine to plugging it, although i am willing to try that again if i can learn more about it/how to do it/etc. -- i mean, it does make X amount of cocaine last twice as long, feel twice as strong, and spares my nose, but if it's just going to give me that rush and nothing else, i don't know.
i guess that's it. if anyone has any tips/corrections on the actual method i'm using, please share. i'd also love to hear others' experiences, and learn more, such as:
how much stronger, really, is plugging v. snorting for either drug?
is plugging more, less, or equally dangerous/unhealthy than sniffing?
comparative dosages -- how much should be used rectally compared to nasally?
and just about anything else that anyone has to offer/add. thanks!
