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Heroin based & speed based ecstacy.. does it exist?

merm

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ok 2 weekends ago i took 2 tabs on a friday night, supposedly double stack, they were and off-white and had a dollar sign on it, i chewed both of them and my roll was intense to an extent, when i asked the dealer if it was pure and he said no it was an h-bomb heroin based or something.. i read today here http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.cgi?ID=2957
that the use of terms like "heroin based" are generally either attempts to describe the perceived effects of a particular pill or attempts to market a pill, and almost certainly have nothing to do with the presence of heroin.

Ok and then on saturday i snorted one tab and chewed the other tab amd he said these were called blue doves, and they were not pure either but speed based, I rolled harder on these then the so called heroin based tabs, I also am curious as to what i am taking and if these so called speed or heroin based tabs exist... if you have any insight on this topic please feel free to share.

Thanks Merm
 
No such thing as heroin in pills, on one occasion there was but eh, it was a one off thing. Yes, speed based pills are called speed bombs.
 
well then i am very curious to know why my roll was more of a mellow intense roll.. i felt really good to the touch and everything, i rolled for a good 4 - 5 hours but it didnt compare with the speed based tab
 
Speed based pills exist. Heroin based ones do not. Why? Because heroin is not particularly effective if you swallow it, and it's more expensive than MDMA. Speed on the other hand is well absorbed and to a new user, could be mistaken for MDMA.

The terms "speedy" and "smacky" have been used to describe the subjective effects of pills. One view is that a low dose of MDMA will give "speedy" effects, whereas a high dose will be "smacky" (ie. put you on your ass for a few hours). Ketamine based pills (which aren't that common in the US - guessing you're from there by the slang) can also be confused as smacky pills.

If you want to know what's in your pills, buy a testing kit. Then you will know for sure if there is speed or heroin in a pill (the Marquis reagent detects both of these - opiates give a red colour change).

Double-stacked is just a marketing tool, too. You can fit a full serve of MDMA into a tiny pill, a bigger one's just as likely to be full of binders.

If you take pills two nights in a row too often you'll probably find they don't work anymore. A break of at least two weeks is a good idea.

Go back to your dealer and tell him the truth.
 
hmm that would explain me sitting down more the first night and having people do light shows for me rather than me doing it for them
 
they worked just fine, and its been 2 weeks since i have rolled, me and my friends were thinking about plugging as faggish as it sounds, they told me u roll harder and just as long.. so then this weekend i will be able to ask my dealer wtf is going on...
 
Sounds about right. Also, you can't expect the pills on the second night to have the same effect as the first. MDMA releases serotonin and it takes quite a while to regenerate. The effects you got on the second night may well have been more "speedy" as once you have no more serotonin left, the MDMA will still release dopamine (which is the chemical behind speed's effects). If you likes that sensation, it might be easier to get some speed, but be cautious with it :)

Oh, and chances are your dealer doesn't know much about drugs. Sad but true - they're the biggest perpetuators of drug myths around.
 
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