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Heroin and The Flu

Ketamike

Ketamike

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Okay.... SWIM works at a place which is basically a breeding ground for mutant super-germs.. and SWIM caught what he's pretty sure is influenza. SWIM had an agonizing right of sweating and aching (slightly reminiscent of dopesickness) and at 9am, SWIM decided that heroin will probably be more effective than Tylenol Cold and Flu. SWIM has a fear of urban blacks and doesn't cop on the street, so he called up a couple middlemen that he occasionally gets from. At this hour on a thursday morning, the people with decent shit can't be reached, so SWIM calls up his last resort whose stuff is pretty inconsistent

SWIM paid $75 for 4 bags (ouch). SWIM figures that 4 bags should get him high all day since he basically has no tolerance.... btw SWIM's last dose of naltrexone was 75 hours ago (24 hour half-life). SWIM notices the bags are small so he shoots two, and he's barely dented. SWIM shoots the remaining 2 and he's pretty high. The sinus headache is gone, and he's nodding.

Let's assume that SWIM uses no more than once a week, and last time he dosed, 2 bags (from a more reliable source) got him smashed.

SWIM received a call from the unreliable dealer to see how SWIM liked the stuff... SWIM disclosed that he had the flu and Mr Asshole gives him a lesson on how if you're sick with the Flu, dope won't work as strong because your immune system is fighting off infection or some crap..

SWIM assumes that 4 bags would probably make him fall out and that this shit was just weak.... BUT is there any validity to what Mr. Asshole said about heroin not working as efficiently due to SWIM having the flu?

I figured i'd get more responses in here, but feel free to move to Health QA if that seems more appropriate
 
I think Mr. Asshole is full of shit. I find that almost any drug I do when sick hits me even harder when I'm sick.

4 Bags with no tolerance should do more than make you "pretty high". I'm no expert but I think the naltrexone should not be a factor after 75 hours, but someone else would probably know better that I would. Sounds like weak shit.
 
I don't have any medical evidence to draw upon but I would seriously doubt that having the flu would have any major effect on how high the gear'll get you. Sounds like Mr. Asshole was just making a bullshit excuse to cover his crappy product.
 
I too think that if anything, it'll hit you harder.....I've done dope while stricken w/the flu, and didn't notice any decrease in effectiveness.....if anything, it's BETTER....not only are you high, but you don't feel as sick.......tell Mr. Asshole he's...well.....an asshole......
 
^exactly. I have done dope when I am sick as fuck. both sick and sick, if ya catch me. if anything it is a lot better because you don't think about your symptoms no more and you are high to boot.

mr asshole is just that.
 
Throughout history and all over the world, Opium is one of the most recommended cures for cold/flu symptoms, since it counters almost all of the symptoms with its effects and side effects.

I do not see why the flu would block opiate euphoria... it just doesn't make sense - in fact, I would think you'd be more euphoric than usual since your sickness is (at least temporarly) cured...
 
Prescription H works for flu

I have no experience with real H, but I am an everyday user of prescription H (OxyContin). I am barely getting over my flu (horrible cough, sore throat, body aches, fukked up nose and sinus symptoms) that I had for two weeks. The OC made me forget I was even sick (besides the nose and sinus shit that the OC wont make go away). Next time im sick I know what medicine im using, and it isnt the shit that you buy for flu. OC will make a depressed person happier than hell, it will make a sick person not feel sick, it will take the worst of the worst headaches away, it will make a person with insomnia sleep fine (but it will only cure you of these things for a short period of time until it wears off). So yes, I know perscription H works like a charm for the flu, and real H probably would too. I just havent ever done real H and dont have the experience or knowledge to answer that.
 
^^ seems to me that you're experiencing your opiate honeymoon.... when you deal with addiction, your views will change... opiates are no panacea
 
^^^definitely the honeymoon phase. Make depression better....snicker,snicker...man your in for an awakening on that. However, any good opioid always makes the symptoms of illness gone in me.
 
hahahaa, seriously ^^^ def. the honeymoon phase...wait until the phase where flu or flu-like symptoms wont stop one from going out, throwing up out the window while you drive to the "spot" etc. Anyway, Mike, hope all is well!
swybs
 
Re: Prescription H works for flu

DJDeepRed said:
I have no experience with real H, but I am an everyday user of prescription H (OxyContin). I am barely getting over my flu (horrible cough, sore throat, body aches, fukked up nose and sinus symptoms) that I had for two weeks. The OC made me forget I was even sick (besides the nose and sinus shit that the OC wont make go away). Next time im sick I know what medicine im using, and it isnt the shit that you buy for flu. OC will make a depressed person happier than hell, it will make a sick person not feel sick, it will take the worst of the worst headaches away, it will make a person with insomnia sleep fine (but it will only cure you of these things for a short period of time until it wears off). So yes, I know perscription H works like a charm for the flu, and real H probably would too. I just havent ever done real H and dont have the experience or knowledge to answer that.
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lol. to be young and dumb again...ah, the joys.

how long till djdeepred ends-up dead, in jail, in rehab or wishing he was dead? taking bets.

j/k. i don't wish that on you for sure, but your innocense is cute...like a puppy.
 
I cant believe these rude bluelighters (naturalone)

I am young and dumb. So if you say thats me, then your old and an asshole. I constantly see you and people like you getting on peoples cases on this forum. Now im not bitchin you said im young and dumb, becuase I am. I know it isnt smart, and im on no honeymoon with it. I have been doing it for 3 years, am addicted, been through a rehab and jail. So why dont you take another stab at me, make yourself feel smart, feel like a man, feel funny or whatever it is you feel when you talk shit. I dont know what you guys get out of saying that shit, everyone has their personal demons they fight whether its an addiction or adultery or whatever. Why cant you try saying some good hearted things that would do more good than harm? Maybe try helping rather than adding to someones already deteriorating psyche or personal self? Like I said, I know im young and dumb. But its the kind of stupidity where I know im doing stupid things that arent healthy, but I have an addiction and it sucks. Im not ignorant (not knowing) to what im doing. Its been going on for a few years, its not something I am trying for the first time. Lots of people, old and young, are dealing with this right now and have been in this area I live in for a while. So yeah, talk some more shit man. The thing is, I can take it and wont dwell on it much. But what happens when you attack someone like that that has a hard time taking critisism or being called young and dumb and its the last straw for that person who really is just trying to make it and understand his/her addiction? I like this forum a lot, but I dont visit it a lot anymore because of the bad vibes and energy projected by so many "Wise and Perfect" bluelighters like yourself. Actually, im done with this forum now. I cant believe all the negativity and critisism coming from so many bluelighters who could do the opposite and help a lot of lost souls.......
 
^^^ I hope you didn't take my message as an insult--I am only trying to warn. I feel for you as I feel for any addicted brother or sister, and I feel as though any addicted brotha or sista is just that, a brother or sister. It sucks, and maybe the countless WDs have had a negative effect and made some of us bitter. I hope you take it with a grain of salt and realize it is only some people who have gone through hell trying to tell someone who (may or may not already) is about to take that road. And, unfortunately or fortunately, junkies usually know what language works...it is apparent by your post that it struck a chord, and that is prolly because it was meant to, had you not already been addicted and dealing with the pain associated with said addiction.

I wish you the best. Shit aint easy. Good luck.

swybs
 
Right on Swybs, your a stand up guy/gal! The reason why I got so frustrated is because of all the negative feedback I read on this website on a daily basis. This was the first time I got it and I had to post something. Whether my opinion be wrong or right, I just think that positive feedback is better received and perceived than negative feedback. I totally agree with you about the brothers and sisters who are related through addiction, and thats why I guess I got so emotional, i guess you could say. We need to be here for one another and not taking bets on when I'll drop dead (nateralone's post). I know he wasnt serious, but I hope you get what im saying. I see so much negative things said by bluelighters. Straight up fukked up and rude things that im sure you have seen quite a bit. I have been addicted for about three years. I have been though a treatment program and jail, I just relapsed like a lot of us have done, and im battling it yet once again. I might be young (20), but I have been through a lot of shit in my life like i know all of us have. Thanks for being a good person swybs! Really though man, people like you make people happier and go into a better state of mind. That will help cure an addiction........just like I seen with kapheen, another soul your trying to save......
 
Oxycontin is prescribtion oxycodone, the only thing that comes close to prescribtion heroin is morphine, as heroin is diactyl morphine and turns into morphine once passing the BBB. On a side note, H doesn't do shit for a dirty hit aka blood poisoning, and that feels a lot like the flu but since you felt sick pre-lift off I'm guessing it wasn't a dirty hit.
 
twgburst said:
Oxycontin is prescribtion oxycodone, the only thing that comes close to prescribtion heroin is morphine, as heroin is diactyl morphine and turns into morphine once passing the BBB. On a side note, H doesn't do shit for a dirty hit aka blood poisoning, and that feels a lot like the flu but since you felt sick pre-lift off I'm guessing it wasn't a dirty hit.
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When I read djdeepred's post, I got the impression that he was being sarcastic about the whole "prescription H" thing.

And I completely agree with him about negative feedback on this forum.

BTW, "dirty hits" are not caused by influenza.
 
$75???

uh...wouldn't some Nyquil be cheaper? plus that shit always knocks me the fuck out...much better than getting ripped off H
 
I actually agree with DJDeepRed. Naturalone I think your post was pretty patronising and unecessary. You complain about the content of some of the posts in this forum yet by repling in the way you do, you're doing nothing to improve it. Sorry, I usually find your posts interesting and informative but this time I think you over did it.

Wish you the best of luck DeepRed.
 
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