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Heroin Heroin Ampoules

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Ahxiom

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I have around 75mg of pure diacetylmorphine hydrochloride, pharmaceutical grade from a chemist.

I so happened to come across it, because a close family member had a terminal illness.

Basically, there are 5mg heroin ampoules, dry powder, like little white crystals, and also 10mg heroin ampoules. I don't really want to IV it, or use any type of injection, I'd much rather smoke it. Is there anyway I could chase the dragon with it, and how much is the recommended dosage for a first time user, with next to no opiate tolerance (120mg codeine twice in two weeks)
 
If it's pure heroin hydrochloride, it's approx. 2-2.5x stronger than morphine if administered IV. And morphine is roughly 10x stronger than codeine. Smoking is of variable efficiency though, you'll lose a lot of the drug if you don't have experience doing it. Better to snort it, plug it as a suppository, or let it sit under your tongue.

So, roughly speaking, 5mg of heroin hydrochloride is approx. 10-12mg morphine equivalent if snorted, smoked, sublingual, or IV'd (depending on absorption - this is a best case scenario), and roughly 5mg morphine equivalent if you eat it because it is converted to morphine in the liver. That's 100-120mg oral codeine equivalent if you smoke the heroin, or 50-60mg oral codeine equivalent if you eat it.

10mg of heroin would be twice that - 200-250mg codeine equivalent if you snort/IV/smoke etc it., or 100-120mg for oral usage.

If you have next to no opioid tolerance it's really better you don't fuck around with the stuff.

If you really want to do it, start small. Try snorting about half of a 5mg ampule and see how you feel after ~20 minutes. You can always take more but you can't un-take it. It's not particularly forgiving in terms of side effects if you overdose, you'll feel like absolute garbage.
 
So, to confirm, half a 5mg ampoule intranasally? And if I want to take it further take the other half?

What is the actual drug like in terms of effects? The furthest I've gone into opiates is codeine
 
If you've only done codiene, I'd save them as to not die; until you have more opioid tolerance. Also I'm jealous as fuck.
 
Are you allowed to discuss prices on BL?

How about if I keeping raising my tolerance to codeine, and then maybe I could take the step into H? I'm really tempted, may be my only chance to try it as I'm not in the right channels at the moment
 
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aight if you only messed around with codeine and nice you got ahold of that haha I wouldn't snort it if you don't mess with a lot of opiates smoke it/chase the dragon what I would do to prevent the most loss well im sure you know the steps get a piece of foil and push a little whole in the foil not like poke a hole through it but indent it and poor a bumps worth because smoking it has a quick onset and also less likely to overdose or get sick slowly light the foil under the h don't just go to town let it burn really slowly and what I would use to inhale through is if you don't want to do a straw I started chasing the dragon with a piece of foil-"foil is better in my mind because the residue will stick to the foil and you can smoke it off of that when you are out or whenever"- just rap it around a pencil or something a little thicker a few times and inhale through that take a hit you should feel it in a few seconds and just hit until you feel the desired effect and from then on after you come down you have a good idea of how strong it is just take a match sized bump if its strong about 2 matchsized bumps if not snorting will give you a stronger effect smoking it will give you more of a rush and if you haven't messed with needle just stay away from them its not something you want to get into
 
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Are you allowed to discuss prices on BL?
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No.

The effects are.. well, like an opioid. If you've only done codeine then that's probably the only point of comparison you have. It's more fast acting and doesn't have a ceiling effect. Both will make you sedated (sometimes stimulated), itchy, insensitive to pain, small pupils, in larger doses nausea, vomiting, ataxia, disorientation, depressed breathing, etc.

There's no reason you can't do heroin with no/little tolerance, the doses are just really, really small, making it incredibly hard to dose correctly if it's street heroin of variable purity. That's part of why people don't recommend you use heroin as an opioid newbie. However, if it's medical stuff stored in ampules, it's more likely to be consistent than the shit you buy in glassine flaps, so you can get away with doing it in tiny doses. Like I said, 5mg is equivalent to ~10mg morphine, which is generally considered to be a small opioid dose.

It is not very smart to build a tolerance to *anything* just to try heroin, that's a great way to sprint head first into opioid addiction. Just keep your doses small and try to enjoy it without it being some sort of obligation...
 
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Thank you, so what is good dose for smoking, with next to no tolerance? What is the threshold for ODing/Feeling sick?

Also, sorry for the lack of knowledge from me, I'm in unfamiliar territory here, I'm a stimulant kind of guy
 
I couldn't exactly tell you the threshold for oding feeling sick because im not you I don't know your exact tolerance but from reading that you have only done codeine it would be small I could say to only put 5mg on it but ide rather describe it by saying just 1 or 2 match sized bumps to start of smoking and do not got impatient take your time because it seems you are intolerant with opiates I don't want to see you getting sick because you are to high or OD so like a said start off with just smoking 1-2 matchheads worth
 
no big deal with the lack of knowledge everyone was there that used opiates at one point they didn't know everything about dosing
 
Thank you, so what is good dose for smoking, with next to no tolerance? What is the threshold for ODing/Feeling sick
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Everyone has different sensitivity to opioids, it's hard to say. That's why you should start low and work your way up, rather than just jumping in.
 
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Everyone has different sensitivity to opioids, it's hard to say. That's why you should start low and work your way up, rather than just jumping in.
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^ what he said and basically what I just said in my post above that dose is pretty accurate for someone with likely a high sensitivity to opiates/opioids and why I said not to get impatient because you cant untake what you have took but you can always add on
 
I wouldn't recommend smoking this if you are not familiar with the technique else you could end up burning and wasting it.
Just start with the 5 mg suggested and try snorting this.
 
Thank you, I've heard it's pretty hard to chase the dragon, I'd rather do half off 5mg first.

Could any describe the effects? How intense is it?
 
Ahxiom said:
Thank you, I've heard it's pretty hard to chase the dragon, I'd rather do half off 5mg first.

Could any describe the effects? How intense is it?
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I never had a problem chasing the dragon but if you are not going to smoke it yes snort half of the 5mg first try to let it sit for as long as you can so as much of it will get into your nose, wait 15 20 minutes and if you feel you need more keep adding only a little bit at a time until you feel the desired affect and describing the effect of heroin, heroin is in my opinion is one the best highs that's why its so addictive the feelings and intensity of it I describe if you are going to snort it you will feel in a complete state of nirvana and peaceful you will be completely content with everything and you wont care about anything its like every problem you have ever had will go away basically one word to sum it up is .amazing. but if someone disturbs you in your state of pure bliss you will most likely get very irritated because you feel so good
 
What do you defiine as the desired effect? How do I know when the sickness will kick in?
 
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