heroin 1st time user, need some basic info

[lman_15]

some background info, i use a 80 mg oxy OR a 60mg morphine and a 40mg oxy OR a 18mg hydromorphine and a 40mg oxy a day.. so i use one of those 3 things a day for the past 4-5 months.. recently my connect as fallen threw so i cannot grab anymore.. i have a hydro link and morphine link but oxy which i like doing i cannot do anymore because buddy lost the link for w.e. reason.. i always stock up at the beginning of the month cuz i hate grabbing all the time, so i got enough pills to last till the end of the month.. long story short buddy of mine sells H and gave me a 0.2 sample, theres a couple of small rocks and some powder.. its a tan/sandy color looks like relatively fine powder.. can you tell quality from look/smell/taste? also i would never inject anything so i wanted to smoke or snort it.. what are the pros and cons of these methods of ingesting heroin? also are there specific techniques for snorting or smoking i should be aware of? how much should i do when snorting or smoking? lastly can i switch from using oxy, morphine and hydro to heroin without experiencing withdrawl?

sorry for the long post im new to heroin never used and don't wanna OD or waste it.. thanks for any feedback

 

[capRx]

can you tell quality from look/smell/taste?

No, thats why you should start slow with every new batch you get. should have a vinegar smell/taste to it..

what are the pros and cons of these methods of ingesting heroin?

Pro: Harder to OD, no risk of HIV/HEP or other IV complications
Con: You waste ALOT of dope doing it these ways (not suggesting that you should IV though..) so you need to do more to get a similar effect as IVing. You may also have some possible complications with lungs and smoking off tin foil if your chasing the dragon. Not as big of a rush as IV.

are there specific techniques for snorting or smoking i should be aware of?

Start slow. You can always do more, but never less. Also, try and do it with someone that has smoked H before if you can. It helps tremendously when someone with experience shows you the ropes. There is a technique you need to master with smoking, but its a quick learning curve.

If your chasing the dragon: Cut off a square of tin foil 6x6in is fine. Place dope on a corner of the foil. Tilt foil at 45 degrees and place the lighter below the dope. Make sure you have the tooter in ur mouth and you start inhaling before the dope starts to burn its way down the foil. Most of the dope is wasted at this part. Make sure u don't hold the lighter too close to the tin foil. Inhale and hold the smoke in. Exhale. Relax...

Snorting: Common sense. I usually tell people to start off with an amount like the end of an eraser, but with ur tolerance, that might not be enuf. Do a line, wait 5 minutes, repeat until ur at a comfortable level.

how much should i do when snorting or smoking?

With your tolerance, you'll kill the 0.2 no problem. Usually id talk about quality of dope, blah, blah, blah.. in this case, it doesn't matter because of the amount ur dealing with.

lastly can i switch from using oxy, morphine and hydro to heroin without experiencing withdrawl?

Yes. Good news is opiates have a partial cross tolerance, which could mean the more you switch up ur opiate drug of choice, the slower your tolerance will rise (only speculating here). They all work the same basic mechanism, so you shouldn't experience any w/d's. Enjoy.

-cap

 

[lman_15]

hey thanks a lot for the reply!! gave me all the info i needed.. if anyone else has any input it would be appreciated as well

how do i store it? buddy said plastic bags aren't good for it, so its in a small piece of folded paper? are there any better storing methods than that? what is the shelf life of H (how long can i keep it before quality starts to decline/it goes bad?)

 

[capRx]

shelf life is in the years for H. Its a stable product, so u shouldn't see any breakdown of the chemical due to heat or sunlight like you would from lsd or mushrooms.

tin foil is always good for storing it. Just keep it out of the heat, because it can get messy when it melts.

-cap

 

[lman_15]

so yesterday i tried it for the first time.. i did an 18mg hydro during the day around 8 i did an incredibly small bump about the size of the width of a pencil.. around 9 i did a thin line about |-----| that big then around 11 i did a line |-------| that big and again one the same size around 2am.. i felt 0 withdrawl from the other pills i've been on, i felt relaxed nd calm.. it didn't feel as happy as oc but it felt good.. i prob did a 0.1 or just over.. why wasn't the experience that amazing? did i not do enough? is my opiate tolerance to high or..?

 

[a-drunk-driver]

my advice: DO NOT do it...all it brings is a divorce and child support..... thankfully i dont know this from experience.

 

[lman_15]

so yesterday i tried it for the first time.. i did an 18mg hydro during the day around 8 i did an incredibly small bump about the size of the width of a pencil.. around 9 i did a thin line about |-----| that big then around 11 i did a line |-------| that big and again one the same size around 2am.. i felt 0 withdrawl from the other pills i've been on, i felt relaxed nd calm.. it didn't feel as happy as oc but it felt good.. i prob did a 0.1 or just over.. why wasn't the experience that amazing? did i not do enough? is my opiate tolerance to high or..?

also i did a 40mg oxy today can i do some H on top of that? how much H could i do while being safe still? (i have an 80mg of oxy/day tolerance)

 

[jdunk]

so yesterday i tried it for the first time.. i did an 18mg hydro during the day around 8 i did an incredibly small bump about the size of the width of a pencil.. around 9 i did a thin line about |-----| that big then around 11 i did a line |-------| that big and again one the same size around 2am.. i felt 0 withdrawl from the other pills i've been on, i felt relaxed nd calm.. it didn't feel as happy as oc but it felt good.. i prob did a 0.1 or just over.. why wasn't the experience that amazing? did i not do enough? is my opiate tolerance to high or..?

also i did a 40mg oxy today can i do some H on top of that? how much H could i do while being safe still? (i have an 80mg of oxy/day tolerance)

Sure, go for it. Depends on if new batch, batch you just had .2 easy.

 

[OGKooosh]

my advice: DO NOT do it...all it brings is a divorce and child support..... thankfully i dont know this from experience.

your display name is drunk driver. someone who needlessly endangers others is frowning on someone using heroin? how depressingly ironic. i don't know anything about heroin and personally would never touch the shit. but i respect this guys decision to do so.

 

[more]

This thread worries me.

 

[Welderman]

From my experiance one or two packs turn into 10 a day real easy. I hope you fare better than I did.

 

[lman_15]

just wondering will using heroin fuck up my oxy tolerance? i'm usually doing a 40mg oxy and a 18mg hydromorphone.. or 80 mg of oxy.. i did heroin once nd still got a nice bag so if i use it once or twice a week will this affect my oxy tolerance?

 

[lman_15]

bump . . . . .

 

[want some niceness]

gear in uk is so poor plz someone help us

 

[benzofan]

some background info, i use a 80 mg oxy OR a 60mg morphine and a 40mg oxy OR a 18mg hydromorphine and a 40mg oxy a day.. so i use one of those 3 things a day for the past 4-5 months.. recently my connect as fallen threw so i cannot grab anymore.. i have a hydro link and morphine link but oxy which i like doing i cannot do anymore because buddy lost the link for w.e. reason.. i always stock up at the beginning of the month cuz i hate grabbing all the time, so i got enough pills to last till the end of the month.. long story short buddy of mine sells H and gave me a 0.2 sample, theres a couple of small rocks and some powder.. its a tan/sandy color looks like relatively fine powder.. can you tell quality from look/smell/taste? also i would never inject anything so i wanted to smoke or snort it.. what are the pros and cons of these methods of ingesting heroin? also are there specific techniques for snorting or smoking i should be aware of? how much should i do when snorting or smoking? lastly can i switch from using oxy, morphine and hydro to heroin without experiencing withdrawl?

sorry for the long post im new to heroin never used and don't wanna OD or waste it.. thanks for any feedback

My basic info : try whathever opiates like oxy... you want but not this shit you will go directly in hell