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Heres benzo withdrawl

Well, I am also a benzo addict, I have been taking 20 mg diazepam/day and 2mg flunitrazepam/night for more than 10 years now, (plus various opiates and muscle relaxants).

I tried to quit in 1996, and after the taper I was clean for 22 days, and that was 22 days of pure hell. I couldn't sleep, had weird thoughts, the electric shock feeling in my legs and mild hallucinations. I also had the oily skin you were talking about.

I'm gonna ask my doc about this gabapentin stuff, I really wanna quit but I cant do it, and I dont want to go to a detox facility either.

Hope everything goes well, SD !!
 
Yea that electric shock feeling freaks me out. I'd be standing, and sometimes it feels like a earthquake has struke.
 
Detox isn't that bad.

Just go to a place that specializes in detox, just don't go to a dextox/psyciatric ward, those can be scary as I know from experience...........
 
Im slowly detoxing from nor-valium. I had about 100 grams of pure pharmcaceutical valium or nor-valium. My tolerance rose to 1 gram to 1.5 grams. This stuff was potent in the beginning, 10mg felt like a normal roche valium 10mg tablet. I just starting taking huge doses, that seemed to last for days.

In anycase, now im down to 60mg. I havent suffered withdrawal, since ive been relatively accurately lowering my dose with my .01g scale. I think i may experience some withdrawal when i get down to the lower doses (20-30mg), and when i finnally stop altogether. I only take it at night, and wonder if i'll be able to sleep after cessetation.
 
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Dude,

I never thought i'd say this and I hate when others say it, but you need to slow the fuck down.

A gram of Valium??? Jesus, 30mg would knock me off my rocker and you cant even take 30mg without withdrawling!


Your really gana regret it when your older. Just get off the dope, weather it be Valium, heroin, methadone, and get some pot and booze.



I highly doubt it was pure if you were taking close to a gram, I would say even a seasoned veteran would be passed out around 100mg.

If you were taking 1.5 grams of pure diazepam and went down to 60mg, you'd seizure and be dead, i don't care how slow you tapered.

Anyways, not a rant, just some insight.
 
I understand that, he's talking about nor-diazepam, the metabolite of diazepam but he said 10mg of this was equal to a valuim 10, read the post.
 
I believe the stuff I got was nor-diazepam, which is marginally less potent than diazepam and has a shorter half-life. 10mg was enough to make me sleeply when I first recieved the stuff, it felt like a blue roche to me, with slightly less kick. When I was taking 1000mg+ doses, it took 2-3 days to feel rid of the effects. Taking such a large dose, which is esssentially an overdose, causes paradoxical reactions, such as CNS- stimulation and agitation. One minute i was unconscious, the next i was doing something.

I have limited memory of what transpired between these periods. I'd take it on monday, and suddenly it would be wednesday, and was not sure what exactly happened in the time gap. My family also told me later that I was acting very strange, almost psychotic, and I had some falls and woke up in weird places. I got seriously injured after taking an 800mg dose of the nor-diazepam, lost all inhibitions and even lent my moms jaguar to a drug dealer who messed it all up, and jumped from the roof of my apartment to my balconey, because i thought i had lost my keys (they were in my back pocket), and fell in a strange manner that the bone of my left ankle burst through the skin and broke off. I was in the hospital for a week and had to have two major surgeries. This was the end of my playing with these super high doses.

I was not taking doses of around 1000mg every day, so i never got addicted to this dose. I also worked my way up from 20, 50, 100, 200, 300, 500,800, 1000mg. But I wasnt taking it everyday. The dose I got somewhat addicted to, or took for more than 30 days straight was around 200mg. I have titrated down from this dose to 60mg, which has not been too difficult. Again, I had only been taking the 200mg for around 30 days, so slow tapering was not much of a problem. Im guessing the most difficult aspect will be getting down from 60mg to 0mg. Even the 60mg i take currently knocks me out fast and hard, and I sleep very soundly (something that I never have been able to do). I usually take the 60mg at around 11pm, and dont really feel the onset, and when it kicks in, I immediately fall asleep sitting in my chair and wake up at usually 2am, then go to bed, and sleep well . I plan to slow down my tapering, untill hopefully I reach zero. I have an infinate supply for my purposes, (like another 85 grams) so that isnt a worry. I can take this as slow as is comfortable.

Again, I have not reduced my dose from 1000mg to 60mg, as this would be a magnificant feat. Since i was only taking the 200mg everynight for month (this dose still was high enough to cause strange behavior), but it wasnt too hard to reduce my dose, 10mg at at time. I think it will be more difficult for me to get off this 60mg, which still is no small dose. I simply need to figure out how i'll sleep after I quit taking this stuff.
 
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Alcohol is definately one of the shittiest drugs, in my opinion. This nor-diazepam does have some hangover, but its not nearly as pronounced and vomit inducing as alcohol. Alcohol may be more initially euphoric, but the side-effects are horrible. Alcohol is a very poor sleep aid, which is what I primarily use the nor-diazepam for.

Smoking weed makes me twitch too much, so I dont smoke it very often. I used to smoke it heavily.
 
Negro, you must have been eating those fuckers like m&ms... When you were at your peak dose, did you just sit down and chew up 100 in one go?
Makes me feel good about 1mg xanax daily...
 
Gabapentin (neurontin)

I didnt mention i take neurontin 1600mg X 2 daily. It does help some, but doesn't fight benzo withdrawl too good.

I am hanging on, will do self detox. Fuck going to a detox place, i got a job and stuff to pay for.
 
would someone taking just 10mg of diazepam every other day get any w/d? i dont know much about benzo wd only opiates, but i have been taking 10 - 20mg (mostly just 10 though) every other day for the last 6 months to help me relax at night due to methadone reduction and i wondered whether that would have any adverse effect if i just stopped taking em.
 
Well valium has a long half life and wd symptons would probably take a day or two to kick in. If you want you can try skipping an extra day and see how you feel.
 
Jesus, DON'T take wellbutrin when withdrawing from benzos, I can tell you first hand that this is a bad combo and is responsible for you feeling so bad. You really need to taper off, you could have a seizure, if you don't have the meds to taper off, go to the ER, this really is an emergency.
 
Jesus, DON'T take wellbutrin when withdrawing from benzos, I can tell you first hand that this is a bad combo and is responsible for you feeling so bad. You really need to taper off, you could have a seizure, if you don't have the meds to taper off, go to the ER, this really is an emergency.
 
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If you've neever been to detox before, it's not that bad, just don't go to a psy ward/detox wing.
Those places SUCK.

Find a nice detox facility you feel good about, talk with them about there methods and practacies.
Ask if they have experience with benzo withdrawl and not just alcohol/dope.

There is NO SHAME in going to a detox wing at all. thats what thier there for.

Just check in on a friday(take the day off) and stay till late sun. and if you need longer take mon. off or pick a day like labor day so you have the monday off i'f your worried about your job.

The hardest part of quittting is not relapsing.
 
Jesus, some of you take so much! When you have to take that much to feel anything that should be your warning right there you have a problem!!!

I don't mean to sound rude, if I do, sorry.
I have gone threw benzo w/d myself, but I only take 1mg to 2 1/2 a day! and I felt as shitty as you say.

Does anyone know if opiates can be used while w/ding to ease the pain? I have vicoden from a car wreck this friday and have been taking that instead of ativan. I have been slowly cutting down anyways to get off of it so its not bad at all I am hurting anyways from the crash so I can't really tell anyways, lol.

I do know when I have ran out in the past w/o wanting to, drinking alcohol of any kind definitly helped. Also to get some ZZZ's try a OTC sleep aid, that will help.
 
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