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Helping two friends get off oxy

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melquiades

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Hey BL,

I'm living on the west coast, but I have two friends on the east coast. They haven't ever met.

Charlie is very communicative, does a lot of psychs and e and alcohol, and is addicted to oxy. He's tried to quite 5 times, and he's currently on a regiment to get clean by may 10th (he hopes). Tomorrow he is going into work without a perc. I'm not worried too much about Charlie, he has self-control, he really WANTS to quit this time around.

I'm worried about Jim. I went to college with Jim, he was one of my best friends, but since I went to the west coast we've lost some contact. We mostly talk on IM or facebook, and we rarely if ever talk on the phone. Jim has been kinda a dick to our mutual friends. After he learned that I snorted a drug, he said:

me: so we snorted some ketamine and then played Go
Jim: whaat
Jim: yoou! snorted something?
Jim: hahaha
Jim: you'll have to do a percocet with me some time

-_- I am not happy about this. I haven't said anything to him about it yet, because he's the kind of guy who withdraws from people. Me and two other college friends would bother him about his job hunt, ask him how it was going, and he was really annoyed at us for doing that. He withdrew and didn't talk to us much.

I don't know how much Jim is doing, how often, how long, or anything. Charlie thinks that if Jim would say "you'll have to do a percocet with me some time" then he's an addict.

So, I'm going to orchestrate a meeting between Charlie and Jim. Charlie works 20 minutes away from where Jim lives, at a pretty public place, and he would really like someone else to kick oxy at the same time he does, and he's also happy to give Jim a talking to as a favor to me. It'd also probably be cathartic to him to give Jim a talking to about how bad oxy is.

Jim is the trickier part of this equation. I called him tonight (he was drunk at a party with his girl) and I just told him that I have a friend in Massachusetts that he should meet, he'd be a good connection. Jim probably thinks that Charlie wants to buy some weed.

Tomorrow I'm going to call Jim and talk to him about how much oxy he does, tell him about Charlie, and encourage him to just go talk to Charlie about it.

Any recommendations? I've never done something like this before. How do you bring up the topic? Should I ask him how much he's doing before I tell him that I think it's a bad thing? Do I have to worry about trusting him?

(And before anyone says "let Jim live his own life", shut it, that's not what friends are for.)
 
i only got about half way through

but ill just say, its easier to find "using buddies" then it is to find "quitting buddies"

you might just be introducing each one to a new connect

i think what u are tryin to do is good and commendable

but i just dont know how well this will work out

i mean its good u care about ur friends

but what happens when charlie meets jim, and jim tells charlie he gets oxy for super cheap, will charlie still wanna quit? tbh Jim doesnt sound like he is ready or has any intention on quiting and maybe he has no reason to, you dont even know for sure he is addicted

anyways, what im tryin to say is your heart is in the right place, but who knows how this will go down
 
...So you said you snorted K...and he said we should snort a percocet. Why would this give you the idea that he is an oxy addict in any way? If someone butted into my shit after a small comment like that, I would not talk to them. Even if I had a heavy oxy problem and someone set up something weird like this rather than talking to me I'd be pissed. You can't stop a drug user from using drugs. Especially not from across the country. It just seems like you said you snorted K, and he tried to seem "in" and said let's snort oxy. You know nothing about how much he is doing! Wow, I don't know what else to say other then, wow. K is just as, if not more dangerous then oxy in my opinion. Both can be used responsibly 8)

Also, if they are still getting high from snorting percocet they don't really have an addiction...even the strongest percocet and stuff, you would be putting way too much powder in your nose if it were every day. Snorting 80's kills my shit after a few weeks.

I would honestly never talk to you again. I know you didn't want that answer, but I just wanted to add my two cents since it is a very real possibility.
 
This just has BAD IDEA writen all over it... You can't force somebody to quit drugs if you're not ready/don't have the desire to quit, especially by having two people who never even met before or may not even be addicts in the first place randomly meet up and expect them to get along first of all..Idk I personally would find this creepy and weird. And guess what, snorting ketamine isn't no one step up the druggie moral ladder. I would consider that worse than popping a perc every once in awhile, considering you don't know if he's even an addict??

This sounds like a really fuckin bad blind date or something.
 
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I would be kind of irritated if someone did this without talking to me first. You have wonderful intentions but he will more than likely not be able to focus on that part while he's pissed about being treated like a child (and that is what you're doing to him by going around him without addressing him face to face like an adult).

Just because he said something about snorting a drug doesn't mean he's a flat out addict. You yourself started the whole conversation by talking about snorting something and you don't seem to be an addict, so how is he any different..? As far as you seem to know, he might be an occasional user. Even IF he is a full-blown addict this course of action is not the best one. Besides, like other posters have said, you can't really introduce someone to sobering up until they're ready and willing on their own.

Good luck with your friends either way.
 
Its just like what the first guy said, they would probably just use together or hook eachother up with OC. That's what all the addicts i know would do.
 
It sounds like a lame sort of intervention set up that could go wrong in a million different ways.
 
lightitup said:
...So you said you snorted K...and he said we should snort a percocet. Why would this give you the idea that he is an oxy addict in any way? If someone butted into my shit after a small comment like that, I would not talk to them. Even if I had a heavy oxy problem and someone set up something weird like this rather than talking to me I'd be pissed. You can't stop a drug user from using drugs. Especially not from across the country. It just seems like you said you snorted K, and he tried to seem "in" and said let's snort oxy. You know nothing about how much he is doing! Wow, I don't know what else to say other then, wow. K is just as, if not more dangerous then oxy in my opinion. Both can be used responsibly 8)

Also, if they are still getting high from snorting percocet they don't really have an addiction...even the strongest percocet and stuff, you would be putting way too much powder in your nose if it were every day. Snorting 80's kills my shit after a few weeks.

I would honestly never talk to you again. I know you didn't want that answer, but I just wanted to add my two cents since it is a very real possibility.
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This.

WTF? You mention K..he says "lets do a perc" and he is an addict?... you seriously must have no life.


This is coming from someone who's best friend od'd and died on the phone with them.
 
You guys are being kinda harsh (you're right, lol, but still). He's trying to do a good deed.

But yeah, OP - You're really making a huge assumption. His comment in no way suggests that he has a problem, but even if you knew that he did - Your intervention idea will not help him. It'll get him mad at you, and it'll probably get Charlie back into oxy's.

Basically - If you want to help your friends, don't do any of the things you've talked about.
 
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