Help with my ouroboros here?

[RodJonse]

So, I took Zolpidem (best drug EVER) daily for nearly three years (immense mistake). I got off it with valium. Valium tolerance shot up from 7.5mg equaling a comfortable dose to 75mg equaling the same dose to during taper (in about 6 weeks, which is in-fucking-sane, with opiates that'd take 6 months). Ending the valium taper soon (one 10mg pill and one quarter left) and using soma to get off valium. Second dose this morning, seems like my tolerance went up 20% in 24 goddamn hours. I'm concerned. Once I'm done tapering this, I don't know what's next. I don't know what to do. What should I do? Do I just taper slowly and hope for the best? Do I taper quickly and take a shitload of opiates/kratom and anti-seizure meds, grab on to the railing (so to speak) and just tough it so as to avoid tolerance to the soma? I know how to handle opioids and the tolerance with them is much less aggressive, and so is the withdrawal. These benzos and benzo-likes...they're something else. I hear from a poll conducted on this site that they're the hardest to get off of. Apparently this is true.


Need. Help. Here.


And I'll say ahead of time, weed is not an option. It makes me paranoid. Stoners - I'm know you love it, but please don't tell me I "need some of it in my life". 12 tries of various types of both indica and sativa with the same result is enough for me to deduce it isn't my thing.

 

[Seyer]

This is better in OD.

 

[RodJonse]

This is better in OD.

Okay, well whatever. Put it in whatever is most suitable and active. I need answers.

 

[bennyZA]

How are you tapering? What dose of each medicine are you currently taking? Is this a self taper or medically supervised? Need more info.

 

[RodJonse]

How are you tapering? What dose of each medicine are you currently taking? Is this a self taper or medically supervised? Need more info.

Self-taper. 5mg diazepam and ~500mg soma tomorrow, next day will be 2.5mg diazepam, same dose of soma, next day no diazepam, same dose of soma, next day ~450 of soma, next day ~400 of soma and so on

 

[sekio]

If you're on 5mg diazepam and 500mg soma, I would think you could discontinue both, right away, without any sort of fear of seizures. That's a pretty small dose.

At most you'd be anxious and on edge for a few days. I don't think you need to "load up" on anything. You're gonna be fine!

 

[RodJonse]

If you're on 5mg diazepam and 500mg soma, I would think you could discontinue both, right away, without any sort of fear of seizures. That's a pretty small dose.

At most you'd be anxious and on edge for a few days. I don't think you need to "load up" on anything. You're gonna be fine!

Well see, the problem is that I took Zolpidem for nearly three years, took Valium for roughly two months (Had a bottle of 30 5mg tablets first and then I had 60 10mg tablets. Binged the fuck out of most of them because it took just that much to get off Zolpidem without feeling like my head was going to pop off my body. Didn't start a proper taper until I had 15 left, and that was at about 50mg valium a day. I cut down from 50mg to 5mg in a matter of three days. To give you just an example of how much "binged the fuck out of" is, the second bottle is dated 7/31 and I have one and a half left. I tried to use less but every time one would wear off, my head would feel like it was about to explode from typical Zolpidem WD symptoms and I had to take another one. Took a good 4-5 days for those to stop). I'm worried that if I quit it all too fast all of the common benzo-like WDs will return, since I built such a tolerance to valium so fast (even if it's only over a short period of time). I'm not concerned about seizures so much as discomfort.

But I feel like even though I gained such a high tolerance SO fast, it was short enough of an amount of time that my body isn't dependent on that particular drug. Like I said, I went from 50mg to 5mg in a matter of three days and I feel the same, and it wasn't until today that I used the Soma (last night, to be more accurate).

So what you're saying is that the quick taper and use opiates to dull the edge would be the better way to get off? Because I want to avoid discomfort as much as possible and that primarily has to do with WD symptoms. I feel like they're still there and I'm just masking them, and when nothing is working with my GABA anymore there'll be a huge issue.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Oh boy do I know the mess you're in....it happened often before because of my goddamn idiotic psychiatrist unable to have appointments with him for when I'd be out of whatever benzo I was using. That was when he was in the local huge mental health part of a hospital though. Now he's gone private but kept his patients he had before doing so and is a lot easier to find.

Maybe a doctor can help you, have you got a GP ? It's sometimes pretty easy to get a short period script from a GP of any benzo if you come up with good reasons and don't make it sound forced when say it. It's too bad that us benzo users have to become excellent liars at times because of the lack of understanding from the med establishment, which was caused by much much worse addicts than us (I hear often from a few 50-60 year old bracket guys) about how they would take a 60 count bottle of 10mg valium and eat it one shot and do that with everyone's pills he was given....goddamn hippies lol.

 

[thebigbenzobob]

This prompts me to research Zoldipem more fully. I don't know if that is a good or a bad thing!

Either way, good luck in your recovery. Remember:

- Abstinence from drugs
- Proper Sleep (take 2 Zopiclone if needed)
- Proper Diet
- Start an exercise Routine

Within 2 weeks you should be back to normal. If then you feel like it, you can restart your binge. Just be prepared to relapse into this problem again.