Bupe help with IV technique - feet?

[laCster]

okay i have really good veins on my wrists and feet, but i have only hit my wrist-veinfacing (on top w/ palm facing down) once before. i have never been able to hit my feet, but i have tried :/

can anyone give me some tips on how to better hit a vein? do i just need more practice??? i think i might not be going deep enough. i made the mistake of buying 31guage SHORTS and i dont think i am going deep enough? i am going to buy buy longs next time but i dont have money at the moment. !

yes i know IV bupre is lame, blahh blahh but i like it... so please help!!


i usually use my elbow-veins but both are blown out(temporarily) and scarred the fuck out from hitting them too much...any advice would be greatly appreciateD! i have nothing to do today so i am literally going to keep poking myself until i hit

-laC

EDIT: oops fuck, well i remember that i have used all my syringes atleast once (more than once??) i dont usually do so, i just dont have enough money to buy more (yes i am that broke). i should know not to shoot up with a used needle. i am trashing the 3 pins that i have left (all used) and i will try again when i can buy some more pins/

the pharmacy i go to only sells 10 needles at a time, not more, not less. it is close to my house and it is legit. sadly i have been broke from spending all my money on oxy to keep myself out of withdrawal!! my health is not worth trying to shoot up with used needles, especially when i dont even hit a vein and just end up fucking around.

 

[oxyaddict05]

Never hit my feet before, so I can't help you out on that.

Of course injecting pills is terrible, but are you at least taking steps towards minimizing harm as much as possible? Micron filter, sterilization, ect?

 

[bingey]

okay i have really good veins on my wrists and feet, but i have only hit my wrist-veinfacing (on top w/ palm facing down) once before. i have never been able to hit my feet, but i have tried :/

can anyone give me some tips on how to better hit a vein? do i just need more practice??? i think i might not be going deep enough. i made the mistake of buying 31guage SHORTS and i dont think i am going deep enough? i am going to buy buy longs next time but i dont have money at the moment. i have/am usng a new syringe though!

yes i know IV bupre is lame, blahh blahh but i like it... so please help!!


i usually use my elbow-veins but both are blown out(temporarily) and scarred the fuck out from hitting them too much...any advice would be greatly appreciateD! i have nothing to do today so i am literally going to keep poking myself until i hit

-laC

The veins on top of the feet are very hard to hit , very painfull even when you do hit and prone to collapsing and other complicatons. If you are decided on that region , maybe take a look at your toes or the place where your ankle joins your feet (see those 2 big veins on either side?You need a very flat angle and to keep your feet in the right position in order for the veins to be hittable , but they are big and the rush comes on fast). Now the toes might seem weird but they ae very similar to hitting in the fingers , flat and fleshy.


p.s I hope you are using a micron filter otherwise kiss your feet goodbye (seriously circulation in the feet is bad to very bad and you don't want to put bacteria food/cultures in there, think gangrene)

 

[laCster]

No micron, only cotton atm. i really try to keep the injecting to a minimum with pills. i hit myself on friday with my right-arm elbow-crook vein, i should have known that the vein wouldnt be good to use after only 2 days...

i use sterile equipment and throw out the syringe after 1 use ( if i have alot), or 2 shots if i dont have alot. i never go past two as they just get too dull and the syringe loses drawing-power. i used a rig that i might have used once before, but i dont think i did at all. so either way it should have been good...

whatever fuck the needles, ill wait 2-3 weeks and let my elbow-veins heal up and hit it once, then stopp again...

@bingeboy
thank you for the response!! the feet hurt alot but i can see them very easily. i need to learn to rely on my feel rather than my eyes though.. i am not using a micron but i didnt even hit. i rarely shoot pills, except for last month i had a little week binge of shooting bupre 2-4 times a day. i was dumb and hit both my arms - in the same spot - multiple times a day and as a result they are fucked at the moment.....i know i didnt completely collapse my veins but i do know they are temporarily inflammed and are unusable for IV..

i wasnt able to hit my feet (both), both my forearms and both elbow crooks (shouldnt have gone back, but it is just so easy and i was getting annoyed. i said fuck it and squirted the soln back into my syringe plunger-cap. i got out my oral syringe, drew up, and plugged that... sigh my needle craving is as intense as every at the moment..

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

i found it easiest to hit on my ankle when i was using heroin instead of in my actual foot.
there's a vein that runs across your ankle that is semi-easy to hit especially if you got long spikes and know somewhat how to IV (cause i dont consider myself pro at IVing, but I always hit without tieing off and I didn't have difficulty hitting in my ankle but could never seem to get it in my foot/hands)

 

[laCster]

^^thanks LSD!!! i tried my ankle, but it hurt too much trying to go in. this was after multiple poke attempts on my feet and hands and arms so my needle was probably all dull and shit.... i will try to go for my ankle next time though because i see a nice vein there and i can feel it easily!!

im not an IV pro, idk how people shoot up everyday! my elbow crooks i can hit anytime of the day (unless they are blown :S) on the first try. poignantly, they are incapacitated at the moment. my wrist/forearm is a little trickier but if my veins are having a good day and being nice and visible then it isnt that hard..

idk why but some days my veins just pop and other days, they dont!! i tried everything today, kept myself super hydrated (drank 3-4 water bottles 2-3hrs before hand, tied a tourniquet, slapped the veins, but they were just being bitches!!)

i need to get new syrnges ...longgs though...

 

[bingey]

^
I think those arm veins are gone. I lost mine the same way under 5 shots each. Maybe your lucky but if you continue injecting without micron you will have to give it up in a couple of years tops.

 

[Chris84]

If you have veins that you can hit in your wrist, use them. The further from your heart when you shoot up the worse it is for you as the circulation isn't as good in your feet as it is in your hands. I was always told shooting up below the waist is bad for you.

 

[laCster]

If you have veins that you can hit in your wrist, use them. The further from your heart when you shoot up the worse it is for you as the circulation isn't as good in your feet as it is in your hands. I was always told shooting up below the waist is bad for you.

^^ok thanks!! i have tried both the inside of my wrists, and the top of my fore-arm/wrists. if i am having a good day then my wrists and hands are OK, just when my veins dont pop out then shit gets tricky..

^
I think those arm veins are gone. I lost mine the same way under 5 shots each. Maybe your lucky but if you continue injecting without micron you will have to give it up in a couple of years tops.

yup they fucking are for the next month or so. i was able to hit my right arm vein after 3 weeks of not injecting there, but now it will be another 4-5 weeks before i can go back there...but my right-arm vein wont be usuable for another 2-3 months. sigh...

 

[Chris84]

If you look at a map of the veins in the hand and wrist you'll see there's quite a few to choose from. I find the one that is on the side of my wrist directly below my thumb to be the easiest to hit. Just remember to use the smallest gauge needle you can when shooting in your hands or wrists. I use a 28g one, as that's the smallest I can get.

 

[laCster]

If you look at a map of the veins in the hand and wrist you'll see there's quite a few to choose from. I find the one that is on the side of my wrist directly below my thumb to be the easiest to hit. Just remember to use the smallest gauge needle you can when shooting in your hands or wrists. I use a 28g one, as that's the smallest I can get.

ohh ok!! i have tried to hit that vein further down my arm, but i just checked right under my thumb and i feel and see the vein!!! 28gauge?? damn!! im using 31 gauge

 

[Chris84]

I wish I could get 31g, but 28g is the smallest they do at my needle exchange. Glad you found that vein too!

 

[laCster]

^ i wish we had more needle exchanges in south-east USA. in GA, the only needle exchanges are in downtown atlanta. i live 2-3 hrs away from atlanta though, not worth the drive for free syringes. it sucks that i dont have one by my house (trust me i have checked. i used to have one 10 mins away, but the government shut it down last year!!)

 

[Chris84]

If you don't have any needle exchanges near you try the website exchangesupplies.com, dunno if they send to the US or not, but if they do that's the best place to get stuff from.

 

[down508]

use a brand new fresh needle. if you have a sharp needle and good veins if you do it right you can't miss. don't waste your time shooting into your feet, it's gross and pointless if you have good veins on your arms. dont mess with the veins on your wrist either, they cant take the abuse and are damn near impossible to successfully inject into.

try a tourniquet, be firm but gentle. be aware of where the vein is relative to the needle, if it rolls left aim the needle left. you will get better with practice. take a hot shower before you want to i.v., if that's not possible use a washcloth soaked in hot water and do a hot compress over the vein you want to use. you can try taking an aspirin or ibuprofen to help thin your blood. stay hydrated too. if you dont mind poking yourself unnecessary you can try filling a 10 pack of brand new needles up with 50 units of water each and injecting them. this is a good way to practice your technique without wasting any drugs, and if you keep everything sterile (use saline nasal spray from a pharmacy, this stuff is much better than tap water for i.v.ing, not just practicing it is also good for dissolving drugs in) the risk of infection is very low, and if it helps you learn to hit veins without missing the little risk is outweighed by the reward of not having to try to inject into your feet or miss shots in your arm which are quite risky in regards to infection.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I see you're on temporary ban, but please don't IV in the feet. I don't think it's necessary for you whatsoever.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

If you have any other options at all in your arms, they will be a much better bet than starting to hit in your feet, which is prone to being dirty and having a lot of bacteria on them from sitting in a hot moist environment all day being in a sock/shoe.

But as far as technique goes for feet.. it's really no different than any other veins. Hitting a vein is hitting a vein. Depending on the vein, how big it is, how close to the surface or deep it is, etc. requires slight adjustments to the angle of the needle, depth of penetration, stuff like that.

It all comes with practice.