Help with cycle?

Montay

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As stated in another thread, im starting up a cycle in approximately a week and is as follows

EDITED CYCLE:
Wk 1-10 - 500mg Testosterone enanthate - (2x 250mg shots a week)
Wk 1-7 - 20mg Dianabol - Every day

What i was mainly wondering was should i run arimidex or nolvadex during cycle only if i show signs of gyno or just in general to prevent, and should i run arimidex or nolva for a PCT. And in what doses and how often?

This is my first cycle by the way 21yrs old and weigh about 75kg, been training for about 3 years. Would 20mg of dianabol be alright for a first time use?
 
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250mg/week is a pretty small dose- might be worth considering bumping that to 400-500mg.

If this is your first cycle then it might be worth leaving the estrogen control drugs unless you need them. Just be aware of your body and consider starting them if you start holding lots of fat and water or if you start developing warning signs of gyno.

PCT should use nolva rather than arimidex something like week 1-60mg, week 2-40, week 3-4 20.

Any idea of your bf% (high or low?)
 
Yeah ive got a low body fat percentage, im pretty lean. I dont exactly have the money to boost it up to 400-500mg either thought for a first cycle would be ok with the dianabols.

Would maybe 10mg a day with dianabols be alright just to prevent gyno from happening? Ive heard that and water retention is pretty likely with dianabols

Edit: After talking to my mate ive decided gonna run with 500mg a week of test and reduce the dianabols to 20mgs a day would this be better?
 
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Sounds pretty perfect for a first cycle.

7 weeks I'd say is a pretty long time to be running a 17a oral. I'd maybe consider upping the dose to 25mg/day and reducing the duration to 4 weeks. If you had any left over then you can run some over the last week or 2 of the cycle or whilst the esters are clearing (you start PCT for an long ester cycle 2 weeks after your last shot).

Being lean is pretty beneficial for not holding as much water/fat as someone who has a naturally higher bf%.

Like I said, I'd avoid the estrogen control drugs unless necessary. Reducing estrogen limits growth to some extent due to a reduction in IGF-1 (among other things). Low estrogen can also negativly effect libido.
 
Sounds perfect for a first cycle assuming you're injecting 500mg a week...

Have armidex on hand and/or nolvadex to take care of any signs of high estrogen i.e water retention, gyno, fat deposits

PCT you might want to add clomid to get your nuts kicking again...50mgs for 3 weeks...and run nolvadex for 6 weeks
 
Sweet as. Should gyno occur what steps should i take to counter it?

and pct just 20mg nolvadex every day for 6 weeks and clomid 50mg for 3 weeks if i can obtain it?
 
take 10mgs nolvadex if gyno appears and see how it works..you may need more...

pct sounds perfect...remember to taper off of the pct dosages to prevent estrogen rebound...

all in all, this is a "safe" cycle by all means in my opinion..
 
Yeah have clomid and nolva on hand.

Also, dbol is a really shitty oral, especially for running it 7 weeks. Yes it is only 20mg, but it is fairly toxic. I would use Oral Turinabol for 6 weeks at 30-40mg ED instead, and grow real muscle instead of intramuscular water retention that will leave you afterward.
 
I agree with Horrux...a lot of people claim that dbol really exacerbated their gyno too...

dbol is really hit or miss...7 weeks is too long imo
 
75kg is pretty light so a lil bit of wet gain isn't so bad. dbols a proven mass gainer and most of the gains tend to be solidified during the remainder of the cycle. The water will help with strength gains also.

Are there decent tbols back in circulation? A lot of sources dried up when BD went down (although I am aware they are now back in business).
 
Like everyone before me has said i also think this is a great first cycle. IMO i would say bump up the dbol to 40mg ed and run it 4 weeks max if you have enough to do that. The dbol will be a great gainer to kick start the because test for me doesnt really start kicking for about 3 weeks and the test will also help solidify the water weight you put on like p-mo said. Eat like a horse while your on any thing and everything, you can always lean up later after your cycle just take full advantage of it, every time I do a bulking cycle i lose my 6pack but is definition will always come back once you clean your diet back up.
 
The dbols i got atm are Bukalo 10.

I wont boost it up to 40 i think i s abit high, max ill go is 30. Just a bit worried about gyno, im still in the process of getting nolvadex, pretty hard to get around here atm at least for me anyway.
 
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