I have been using herbal incense now for almost 2 years and I have FOR SURE built up a tolerancy. Nothing in my town works, nothing online works, and im tired of paying out the ass. When I say i have built a tolerancy, I really mean that. Now I am going to order some am-2201 and jwh-081 and I want to know a proper dosage to do the right job. I was told to use 150mg per gram of spice due to my tolerancy but I am not too sure. Again, NOTHING WORKS FOR ME, I NEED SUPER SUPER SUPER STRONG. please guide me to forums or answer anything you can in reguards to am-2201 and jwh081
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help with am-2201 and jwh-081
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Your question is unanswerable, because you haven't specified how large your tolerance is. A 2.5% AM-2201 blend is a really strong blend, and will own an inexperienced user in 1 hit - so that's about the strength of the strongest herbal blends you've probably been using. JWH-081 is about 20% weaker by weight.
However, when you get to the point where even high-potency herbal blends aren't getting you high, you need to take a break, and bring your tolerance down.
There are plenty of records of people smoking little (and not so little) piles of pure JWH-xxx or AM-2201 - highest i've seen was taking doses of about 100x what a non-tolerant user would take, and not getting good effects. The problem is that, unlike plain old weed, synthetics can raise your cannabinoid tolerance much higher, and you can get non-trivial sideffects and experience withdrawal (if you care to do some digging, you can find a few reports with specifics - symptoms seem to vary). You don't want to get to that point, and increasing the dose until you get a decent high, as you've stated you plan to do, is going to get you to that point.
You should cut way back - reduce how many times per day you smoke, ex, smoke only at night, or something - or quit entirely and take a decent break from cannabinoids.
However, when you get to the point where even high-potency herbal blends aren't getting you high, you need to take a break, and bring your tolerance down.
There are plenty of records of people smoking little (and not so little) piles of pure JWH-xxx or AM-2201 - highest i've seen was taking doses of about 100x what a non-tolerant user would take, and not getting good effects. The problem is that, unlike plain old weed, synthetics can raise your cannabinoid tolerance much higher, and you can get non-trivial sideffects and experience withdrawal (if you care to do some digging, you can find a few reports with specifics - symptoms seem to vary). You don't want to get to that point, and increasing the dose until you get a decent high, as you've stated you plan to do, is going to get you to that point.
You should cut way back - reduce how many times per day you smoke, ex, smoke only at night, or something - or quit entirely and take a decent break from cannabinoids.
My friend smoked a bowl of a blend with am-2201. Said it was 10x worse then his level 4 salvia trip, at about the 40th minute in he started projectile vomitting for the next 20 minutes. Powerful stuff..he described it like a k hole without the kid even knowing what k is.
AM-2201 is ridiculously potent. 1.4% AM-2201 blend easily 1-hits me. Smoking a whole bowl of an AM-2201 blend designed for people with tolerance like the OP here, smoked by someone used to smoking real weed would be an intensely unpleasant experience. Havn't heard of vomiting with synthetic cannabinoid OD's, but everything else sounds right.