Help! Using kratom for opiate detox... what kind and how much?

[whispers84]

Hello... swim has been using heroin for over a year now and has tried and failed to stop using multiple times. Withdrawals are absolutely horrid, but swim has recently read reports of others successfully detoxing using kratom. Swim was wondering what kind and how much he should use to try to finally get off this horrible dependence on opiates. To give an example of swim's tolerance, he can take 100mg of oxy and not even nod... any information is greatly appreciated! Thnx!

 

[Visionary_Kpsycho]

Yeah... with that much tolerance, your better off with something like methadone. If you dont nod off off 100mg of oxy kratom is not going to do a thing for you.

Sorry

 

[RobotRipping]

ive been trying kratom to get off poppy seeds (much more weak than heroin of course but causes a huge tolerance for me) and it really takes away the mental anguish but leaves me physically feeling like shit, restless legs and pain but no diarrhea, depression or anxiety. I'm still experimenting with 3 strains to see how i can best get through this but i'd like to hear of others experiences as well.

its worth a shot, dont expect a cure but kratom + immodium may make it bearable, even more so if you have some benzos to get through.

 

[Leaping Gnome]

When I was on anywhere from 120mg - 180mg a day of Oxycodone the Kratom helped a little when I ran out of my script. Don't expect much when 100mg Oxycodone doesn't do much.

My pain is more under control now and I'm on Hydrocodone 10/325 @ 4 a day. The last few weeks I over did it and ended up taking 6-8 plus a day and ran out 9 days ago. I went to the head shop and got some Kratom & Kava-Kave and there is no WD at all. The Kratom keeps the body out of WD and the Kava-Kava keeps the panic type feelings away. Even sleep anywhere from 8 - 9 1/2 hours and no need now to get out of bed and head for anything feeling fine when I wake up. Even helps a little with my chronic pains.

As far as what type of Kratom, I've tried 3 of them and I really don't notice any difference. Maybe I would if I was more precise in measuring, or not used to the Hydrocodone. “How much for me,” 5gr Kratom & 3gr Kava-Kava a day.

Be warned, the Kratom is additive and the Kava-Kava is probably also! Read up on each before using! Maybe find an on-line herb interaction checker. Kava-Kava can be used for things in place of a benzo, or a diuretic for high blood pressure. I had to stop taking mine because I was pissing like a rat taking both together!!! Also warnings about Kava-Kava and your liver. Once again, read up about them!!!

BTW, we don't use SWIM, etc. here.

Hope it was some help,
Leaping Gnome

 

[red216]

Oxy Withdrawal, Kratom dose?

Hello everyone,

It's been about 3 month of 90mg oxycodone every other day. Normally, I go into withdrawal on the second day after taking oxy so I take more to alleviate the pain. I just bought some kratom capsules called Bali X. From my math, it seems it has .5g in each pill. I was wondering how much I should take to get over these withdrawals. From my reading, it seems 5 grams would be a good starting point. If anyone had an addiction similar to mine and quit using kratom, I'd really appreciate it if you could please let me know how much you took and how you felt. Thanks!

 

[Swimmingdancer]

For now I'm going to move this to another recent thread about the same topic. I may then get it merged it to a thread in Other Drugs about using kratom for opioid withdrawal. I think it would be good to just have a general thread since we get questions like this all the time. In the meantime, check out:

The Kratom Mega-thread

The Opioid Withdrawal Mega-thread

What exactly makes you think it has .5g in each capsule? Is this supposed to concentrated/enhanced with an extract or anything? I'm not familiar with those particular capsules (there is tons of kratom sold as "Bali X"). Most people don't seem to recommend capsules anyway, they are often overpriced, but if you have them already you might as well use them of course. The strength of kratom varies so much. I'd say the best thing to do is start low and gradually increase as needed. Especially since you just want to ease your oxy withdrawals, you would want to use as little as bearable and gradually taper off it.

 

[red216]

The reason I thought there was .5 grams is because each bag is 1 ounce and come with 50 pills. I know 1 ounce is around 28 grams so 28/50 equals around .56g a pill. I might be doing something wrong but this is how I came up with that figure. I appreciate your advice man, I"ll start off with maybe 3 grams and work my way up like you said. Thanks.

 

[SaosinEngaged]

OP, please post your tolerance. Bali Kratom is always the best for opiate withdrawal. For my tolerance at 300mg of Oxy daily, I'd be making 20-30g of tea and drinking that 3x daily to have a good effect on withdrawals.

And btw, there's no SWIM here. Everyone knows it's you. Jigs up bucko.