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Opioids Help Registering a Vein

Sentimental

Sentimental

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Hello all.

I have gotten a hold of some 8mg hydromorphone pills. This will be the first time that I shoot up, so I plan on starting with 2mg, with 4mg being my standard dose when I plug it.

The problem is that I manage to set up a nice, clean looking shot and everything, but as soon as I stick myself and I feel as I may be in a vein and I go to pull the plunger to see if blood flows in the needle, I end up moving too much and I'm out. My hands are quite shaky.

My question is: other than pulling the plunger, what are some good ways to know you're in a vein? If I were to leave a little bit of air at the end of the shot, will some blood flow in when I'm in a vein, or it that something only expected from an artery? Also, even though I can find some decent veins, they seem to roll a lot, and a belt is the best tourniquet I have at my disposal.

I've searched far and wide for a decent answer on this, so some guidance would be appreciated.

Just for the record, I have no friends who shoot up, so I can't have someone else do it for me.

(By the way, I found a good looking vein on the top of my right arm. Would this place be good for a first time shooter, or should I try at the conventional bend of the elbow area, even though the vein there for me isn't that great?)

Thanks.
 
Try pulling the plunger right after you penetrate the skin, before you're in the vein. Also, yes the crook of the arm is much better. These aren't necessarily the best because they're the most visible, but rather they tend to not roll and are incredibly easy to hit. I'm sure you already know this and have been told it before, but you're much better off not knowing how to shoot up. When I joined I had little opiate experience and now I do over a half g of boy a day IV. Stop while you're ahead. The high is no where near worth the possible consequences.

Also leaving air in the syringe will not cause blood to flow in. The vacuum is what causes it to flow in. As I said, after you've penetrated your skin, pull the plunger back a couple units and then try to go into the vein.
 
I'll give that a try, and if that doesn't work out after about 2 or 3 sticks, I'll wait until tomorrow to try again. I'd like to keep myself as far from being a human pin cushion, so I only try sticking myself a few times a day :P I don't want to end up using an hour of my time and looking like a mess just because I wanted to hit a vein.

I have experienced IV hydromorphone before, so this isn't unexplored territory for me. I have never done it myself, however. This is kind of like my last hoorah before I jump back on the clean machine :D

Opiates are a lot more boring than I remember.
 
first of all i dont recommend any one start going down the IV route. it's a long looong road my friend. hydromorphone also is like the crack of opiates in a way: the rush is very intense and the high is very short lived (mainly in the IV route) compared to say heroin, which IMO has some legs. i'm not going to lecture you, but before you go down this road REALLY ask yourself why you want to IV.

now to the help (cause you're probably gonna do what you wanna do anyways) for the sake of HR:
http://wiki.bluelight.ru/index.php/Drug_Injection <- a wealth of information on drug injection including technique
iwhat also helped for the vein rolling for me was a nice swift jab of the needle through the skin in the site that i could see AND feel a vein (not always necessary). start at a shallower angle and slowly work your way deeper. thats what i did.. also when you work your way deeper do not pull the needle all the way back out of your skin. say you go too shallow and check if you're in a vein and nothing and you have a little air bubble in the front of the syringe once you get into a vein by working your way into it blood will rush in (only if the air bubble is made once it's punctured the skin). since you say you're tying off too make sure to loosen the tie BEFORE you push the plunger down (which can be tricky). since you have "virgin veins" i would recommend TRYING to not tie off unless necessary.

that's about all the advice i can give you really, and again i will warn you IV use is a long and dangerous road especially with pills. i hope you're micron filtering by the way.. you do NOT want pill fillers running through your veins.. they can cause clogs in the lungs, heart, and veins themselves. also you run a higher risk of cotton fever which is NOT fun. *shudder* be careful, man.

edit: i'm sorry if this is not so eloquent.. i'm on some benzo's right now.. i could've probably worded this bettter.. oh well...
 
i rest my hand holding the syringe on my forearm when hitting at the elbows. and hold the syringe like dis

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a medical tourniquet may help, mine has a button i can push with my chin to release it after registering (sometimes re-register after loosening tourniquet)

as others have said, pulling back on the plunger slightly when digging around can help. also, not HR, but dull needles (my own, not shared) are sometimes easier, as you can really feel when the needle hits a vein. not healthy, obv.
 
Make sure you take your time. Don't rush it. Rushing makes you shake, makes you more likely to miss, or even waste a shot. Sometimes I try and hit my vein to quick. I just want the rush, so i rush to it. My friend always reminds me to slow down, don't worry about hitting the vein so much and relax. It helps me hit the vein a lot easier and with less stress. I've been to the point where I almost started yelling and screaming cuz I couldn't do it, it was ridiculous. Once I relaxed I finally was able to get what I wanted, a hell of a rush
 
yeah, dunno how you are holding it, but you should be able to rest your hand on your arm. i hold the syringe in a fist, with my thumb sticking out to register...
 
I've been IVing for over a year now and despite what everyone seems to be saying, before I break the skin I leave a tiny air bubble and when I hit the vein a tiny bit of blood always flows in. I always still pull back the plunger to double check if ive registered.
 
Bambooshoot said:
I've been IVing for over a year now and despite what everyone seems to be saying, before I break the skin I leave a tiny air bubble and when I hit the vein a tiny bit of blood always flows in. I always still pull back the plunger to double check if ive registered.
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I usually do the same. Ain't no problem. It's an easy way of knowing where exactly the vein is before you register.
 
It's funny people are scared of injecting a small amount or air yet, they'll heat up their cut heroin or inject pills. I'd be more worried about solid or liquid state substances than gasous substances
 
The best advice I can give is to draw back on the plunger before you even think you are in the vein. This will create a vacuum so that when you do slide in the vein, the blood will rush up the barrel. You should also try and hold the syringe in a way that your hand is resting on your arm to keep it steady (if your hands are shakey). I also always will register again 1/4 through the shot (only with opiates though) to make sure you have not slipped out.

Here are some links to safer injecting techniques.
Here is another one.
 
Cloudy said:
It's funny people are scared of injecting a small amount or air yet, they'll heat up their cut heroin or inject pills. I'd be more worried about solid or liquid state substances than gasous substances
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I know right?! It's strange. I thought everyone knew about the 'air bubble' myth by now.
 
For smaller veins I try to check in the middle of the shot. I also have friends (when they are injecting me) who always registers at the end of the shot to show to me that they were in the vein for the whole shot (they don't flush the barrel or anything, just draws a small amount up)
 
I usually end up slipping out of the vein if i check half way through (depending on the vein, especially smaller ones). I do check at the end though. Which is kind of pointless cause if you've missed, it's already in there.
 
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