Detox Help! Need advice on how to make this as painless as possible

[ghoostfaace]

So I’m trying to detox from a pretty gnarly stack / half stack a day of fet , not quite sure the weight but something like Atleast 4 maybe 5 grams a day on bad days 2/3grams on good(this could be off because we use bundles which always weight different .
Anyways my goal is to detox as painless as physically possible and quickly as to not alert anyone of what im doing. I have access to methadone , subs , benzo’s ect. In the past I’ve done home detox’s and they’ve been pretty shitty (mostly cold turkey). Oh and I just so happen to have an RN as a roommate


Here’s my questions

How have y’all experienced detox with the help of benzos? I noticed it helped but didn’t have enough to experiment more, is it possible to take enough that they remove 80/90% of detox pains?

how soon have y’all added methadone if that’s the route you take? if I do use methadone how does this effect the detox overall if I don’t want to end up dependent on it (I understand this should not be mixed with benzo’s and should be done while being monitoring by a medical person)

If I decide to take the sub route, how soon should I take and how much has worked for y’all. Also what day did you stop to avoid dependence on them?

And finally how much/in what ways does exercise actually help. Like would it benefit me it exercise as soon as physically possible ? Will it make me essentially sweat threw remaining PAWS faster?

Is there anyway to get a hospital to put me under and force precipitated withdrawals till I’m threw it and then send me on my way?

*PLEASE DONT BRING UP AFTER CARE, AFTER ALOT OF EFFORT AND RESEARCH/EXPERIENCE IVE FOUND THE BEST PLAN FOR ME**

I’m super looking forward to everyone’s input , I’m hoping with these questions all together it’ll create almost an FAQ of DIY detox for others like me who can be safe/ also have outside help. I’m also super open to hearing about what y’all think of detox centers and how to find the best ones.

 

[n3ophy7e]

So I’m trying to detox from a pretty gnarly stack / half stack a day of fet , not quite sure the weight but something like Atleast 4 maybe 5 grams a day on bad days 2/3grams on good(this could be off because we use bundles which always weight different.

Sorry what is it exactly you're coming off of? I'm half asleep and can't quite figure out what substance you mean.

 

[Nurse Ratched]

Sorry what is it exactly you're coming off of? I'm half asleep and can't quite figure out what substance you mean.

Not real sure but OP might have left the " n " out of fent. Only reason I think they meant that is because they used " bundles " as the way it was packaged.

When you come back on @ghoostfaace you can let us know if that is what you mean. I take it you are a heroin user getting fent instead?

 

[ghoostfaace]

Not real sure but OP might have left the " n " out of fent. Only reason I think they meant that is because they used " bundles " as the way it was packaged.

When you come back on @ghoostfaace you can let us know if that is what you mean. I take it you are a heroin user getting fent instead?

Sorry that’s what we call it out here but yes fentanyl, again my bad guys !!!!

 

[Nurse Ratched]

Sorry that’s what we call it out here but yes fentanyl, again my bad guys !!!!

Hi. Hey no problem. I leave letters out all the time myself.

So how are you feeling today? All the things you mentioned in your first post will certainly help you detox off of the fent. Benzos to sleep and stay calm. The m'done and subs to stabilize ( once you get the fent off of your receptors ). Kratom , weed, hell anything along those lines to help you feel better while you are detoxing. I would leave alcohol out of the mix ( don't think you mentioned it but I heard alcohol sucks when you are rattling )

Stay hydrated, eat as much and when you can. When you feel better, drop the m'done , subs, and benzos. If you want to keep taking kratom and smoking weed those are the least harmful. If you want zero opioids.....leave the kratom out of the mix too.

Good luck.

 

[VerbalTruist]

Sounds like you're kicking heroin/fentanyl. Methadone can be administered fairly quickly. If you're going with Bupe, I would wait until you are sick because precipitated w/d is probably the worst thing I can imagine. As far as using benzos... They won't reduce your symptoms by 80%. It'll make it more bearable. I have found that 2 tablets of immodium, a valium, an NSAID, and gatorade usually make the first 24-48 hours (and most of w/d) bearable; given that you're repeating doses as needed. How public of a place do you have to be in? Can you take a few days off and be at home? Also, you know you cant swap Subs and Methadone out for one another, right? Seriously, precip wd isn't something you want to fuck with and buprenorphine can do that if you aren't careful.

As far as exercise goes, the more mobile you are, the better you'll feel. I tapered off of bupe and forced myself to get up and move around. Now it's at least a couple of miles a day on my bike to stay sane.

 

[n3ophy7e]

Not real sure but OP might have left the " n " out of fent. Only reason I think they meant that is because they used " bundles " as the way it was packaged.

When you come back on @ghoostfaace you can let us know if that is what you mean. I take it you are a heroin user getting fent instead?

That's what I suspected but then the amounts were so high I thought it might be something else.

 

[n3ophy7e]

Sorry that’s what we call it out here but yes fentanyl, again my bad guys !!!!

No no, all good brother. Pumpkin and VerbalTruist have given some great advice, I wish you all the absolute very best in getting clean

 

[ghoostfaace]

So I haven’t started yet I’m preparing things but hopefully extremely soon! Just a quick thing I know that I can’t mix anything with naltrexone with any opiate and I also have been threw those precipitated withdrawals (and holy crap)

this is all great info so I really thank you guys , the more the bette.

one thing I notice one of you guys mentioned that the benzos would help more than calm me down but I’ve had it stop the rls, temp changes and the nausea almost completely but what was interesting was the times when I did that it felt like the wd lasted longer like it paused and days 3/4 were hell

 

[ghoostfaace]

Sounds like you're kicking heroin/fentanyl. Methadone can be administered fairly quickly. If you're going with Bupe, I would wait until you are sick because precipitated w/d is probably the worst thing I can imagine. As far as using benzos... They won't reduce your symptoms by 80%. It'll make it more bearable. I have found that 2 tablets of immodium, a valium, an NSAID, and gatorade usually make the first 24-48 hours (and most of w/d) bearable; given that you're repeating doses as needed. How public of a place do you have to be in? Can you take a few days off and be at home? Also, you know you cant swap Subs and Methadone out for one another, right? Seriously, precip wd isn't something you want to fuck with and buprenorphine can do that if you aren't careful.

As far as exercise goes, the more mobile you are, the better you'll feel. I tapered off of bupe and forced myself to get up and move around. Now it's at least a couple of miles a day on my bike to stay sane.

How much methadone (liquid) did you use on days1/2? I know it takes time to even out in the system

 

[VerbalTruist]

How much methadone (liquid) did you use on days1/2? I know it takes time to even out in the system

I think that methadone is a bad solution for a taper or maintenance. Full stop. You said you have access to bupe. Use that.

Unless you know the amount of methadone in the solution it is impossible to tell you how much to take. The dose that would be right for one person isn’t right for the other.

If I were in your shoes, I would say “Fuck methadone” and take bupe instead. Transitioning from ‘done to bupe will be worse. Wait for 24-48 hours, be a little sick, and take bupe. Taper the bupe.

If you’re starting on methadone, if you have to take it... See how 10mg feels? Know that it takes forever to take effect. Like seriously, wait an actual 2 hours after your first dose (and start low) until you increase.

You said you live with an RN? Why not ask them? Or look online for dose equivalent guides.