Help! Need a quick taper plan off of suboxone! can i use 7.5 vics? Kraton?

[Lulu808]

Please help. I've been on subs for 2 yrs, 14mg. I just tested positive for opiates at the clinic. I haven't touched a pill in a long time. The Dr said it could be from sexual contact with someone that was in them. That sounded unlikely but possible. My bf takes them casually. I've finally had it with this clinic and got an ear beating but I've decided to quit. I've got 14 subs and 50 vics (that I picked up after deciding to quit ) I don't want to go back to this clinic. I want to quick taper off of the subs and then maybe use the vics for wd. I know I'm playing with fire but I don't have alot of time to be sick either.I've heard of ppl using kratom for wd pains. Does it work? How do u take it? Please help. I'm so desperate. Thanks in advance. I've always scanned over these posts and seems like there's some pretty intelligent ppl that know what they're talking about.

 

[Devotee]

Sorry to hear of your situation. Kratom for new users is easiest taken in capsules - easily purchased on line or from your local head-shop. I buy bulk powder and cap my own - a fraction of the price, and well worth it - to me at least. Kratom is amazing for pain, euphoria and dealing to withdrawals. But you must take it exactly as I lay out here. First thing in the morning - Empty stomach - no food whatsoever. (1) drink glass of 100% grapefruit juice, wait 15 minutes (2) wash down 8 capsules of Kratom - about 2 or 3 grams with more grapefruit juice - grape fruit juice potentiates it (3) do not eat anything .... Within 20 minutes you will feel it, and in 40 minutes you will be flying happy. Three or 4 hours later - repeat. Do not drive or operate equipment until you see how you go with it. If you eat, it does not work... Or not as well. When you have to eat... Eat at least 2 hours after taking. Don't take Kratom within two hours of eating. Yes, you do loose weight - because you don't want to turn off the effect with food. Try not to do Kratom more than two or three days in a row... Tolerance builds ... Unless you have other Kratom varieties to switch out. If you take it 7 days per week, week after week -- you will then be addicted to Kratom. Don't do that. There are plenty of other things you can add to your stack to avoid addiction and tolerance. PS if 8 caps does not hit you hard within an hour - take 4 more caps.... And next time start with 12. About 4 grams... That's a lot, trust me and not likely. Most people screw Kratom up by eating. Don't do that.

 

[kateiejean]

Hi! Liked your response. Im new here, did my first post last night after loosing it like 5 times before....lol....
So, What is Krantom? Im tappering from way high doses, 2-200mg morphine er,
the liquid morph 2-5ml / 1ml=20mg, and 2-3mg klonopins a day. I'm now 2 months into the tapper and at 1-100mg morphine & 1mg of klonopin a day, and in 2 weeks I gootta go down to half of that, repeat halfing every month from now
on. Loosin my supplier....at least I got a "heads up" and could attempt tappering, Im lucky on that one. Not so lucky that I was taking all that previous amounts for past 13 years tho. Can u help me with info, maybe become friends or redirrect me to elsewher? I'm not too good at navigating this site yet.
Thanks in advance for ANY help.. hope you have a great day!