So I need to take a tolerance break for heroin. I'm up to 10-12 bags a night of amazing dope. Unfortunately, this stuff isn't free, so I need to get off it for awhile. So I have 14 8/2 suboxone and I'm looking for a tamper plan. How long should I wait to take the sub's ? What should be my first dose ? Also I'm going to take adderall with it so I have some energy tomorrow.
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thismighthurtabit
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This really depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If you want off the dope, without just switching over to subs, you won't need much for detoxing from the dope. A local detox center where I am from switched over to using subs for withdrawal from opiates, like heroin. Their dosing schedule is:
Day 1: 2mg
Day 2: 1mg
Day3: 1mg
Day 4: 0.5mg
Day 5: 0.5mg
And that's it. For a whopping total of 5mg, for the entire detox. Which is just over half of a single sub. You obviously have a lot more than this, so it's what you decide to do.
If you plan on staying on the subs for longer than just getting you past heroins acute withdrawal, I would recommend starting at 2mg. If you still aren't feeling well enough after about an hour, keep moving up 2mg until you are. 4mg per day should be plenty. The transition, regardless of the dose, will probably be somewhat uncomfortable for a couple days. Don't let discomfort alone be the judge of how much you take.
Dope has a very short half life. But, I would still recommend waiting as long as possible before taking your first dose of sub. Around 24 hours should be enough. The longer, the better. Make sure you're feeling symptoms of heroin withdrawal first, then take your first dose of sub.
Good luck!
Day 1: 2mg
Day 2: 1mg
Day3: 1mg
Day 4: 0.5mg
Day 5: 0.5mg
And that's it. For a whopping total of 5mg, for the entire detox. Which is just over half of a single sub. You obviously have a lot more than this, so it's what you decide to do.
If you plan on staying on the subs for longer than just getting you past heroins acute withdrawal, I would recommend starting at 2mg. If you still aren't feeling well enough after about an hour, keep moving up 2mg until you are. 4mg per day should be plenty. The transition, regardless of the dose, will probably be somewhat uncomfortable for a couple days. Don't let discomfort alone be the judge of how much you take.
Dope has a very short half life. But, I would still recommend waiting as long as possible before taking your first dose of sub. Around 24 hours should be enough. The longer, the better. Make sure you're feeling symptoms of heroin withdrawal first, then take your first dose of sub.
Good luck!
So you just gonna take the subs for a little while till your tolerance to H decreases a bit right?
If youre thinking doing that for like,lets say a week,then considering the bupe you have at your disposal,id do it like this:
Day 1-4mgs to 6mgs(you should wait until youre in full WDs,12 hours at least from your last H dose,even more if youre still feeling ok by that time,and start with 2mgs to see how you respond to that,then if youre ok an hour later you could take another 2mgs.If later that day you feel you still arent well enough you could take another 2mgs,but id do that hours after the first 2 doses).
Day 2-the same 4mgs-6mgs
Day 3-4mgs maximum(all in the morning or two 2mg doses on morning/afternoon)
Day 4-3mgs
Day 5-3mgs maximum( 2mgs in the morning and another 1mg later that day ONLY IF NEEDED)
Day 6-2 mgs
Days 7-1-1.5mgs Maximum
Day 8-H day!!!!
This is pretty much what id do(and plan on doing in the near future) to take a small break and reduce H tolerance.This is all based on the fact that you intend to return to H.
If you could stay on the Subs for a little longer or even decide to join a bupe maintainance clinic/doctor that'd be great!
*The decent amount of bupe dosing in the first couple of days should keep you comfortable enough(2mgs prolly wouldnt hold you the first couple of days regarding your big H habit,although above poster's schedule seems a nice one if you plan on doing a rapid bupe detox with intention of staying clean),and the relatively small doses on the last 2 days would prolly make you feel good enough while giving you better chances of feeling the H better and keeping low tolerance if you decide to use on day 8!
If youre thinking doing that for like,lets say a week,then considering the bupe you have at your disposal,id do it like this:
Day 1-4mgs to 6mgs(you should wait until youre in full WDs,12 hours at least from your last H dose,even more if youre still feeling ok by that time,and start with 2mgs to see how you respond to that,then if youre ok an hour later you could take another 2mgs.If later that day you feel you still arent well enough you could take another 2mgs,but id do that hours after the first 2 doses).
Day 2-the same 4mgs-6mgs
Day 3-4mgs maximum(all in the morning or two 2mg doses on morning/afternoon)
Day 4-3mgs
Day 5-3mgs maximum( 2mgs in the morning and another 1mg later that day ONLY IF NEEDED)
Day 6-2 mgs
Days 7-1-1.5mgs Maximum
Day 8-H day!!!!
This is pretty much what id do(and plan on doing in the near future) to take a small break and reduce H tolerance.This is all based on the fact that you intend to return to H.
If you could stay on the Subs for a little longer or even decide to join a bupe maintainance clinic/doctor that'd be great!
*The decent amount of bupe dosing in the first couple of days should keep you comfortable enough(2mgs prolly wouldnt hold you the first couple of days regarding your big H habit,although above poster's schedule seems a nice one if you plan on doing a rapid bupe detox with intention of staying clean),and the relatively small doses on the last 2 days would prolly make you feel good enough while giving you better chances of feeling the H better and keeping low tolerance if you decide to use on day 8!
DQO94
Greenlighter
How about some advice for trying to return to my sub regiment....i got on them in September last year and stayed clean all the way tI'll February this year. Eventually even got put on subutex. Anyways here I am almost 3 months later, I have a daily habit worse then when I got clean, and can't figure out how to get back on my subs. Before I was able to sskip a day then use the next then back on but never stopped for this long straight....last week I tried stopping I did my last shot the night before, had go take a road trip the next day 3 hours awag, I Waited till about 10 30 to take my first 2mg subutex. Idk if after that initial dose I took too many subs too quick (10 30 to 12 took probably 8 mg) but I with drawled the whole day till got home and decided nope not ready yet. Haven't tried since. Anything helps thanks guys. Oh and my habit fluctuates anywhere from - grams a week to 2 a week.