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Help me dose myself with LIQUID 2cp

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Deafeye

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All of the dosing suggestions that I have found online are in milligrams (mg) and Im having difficulty translating this to milliliters.


I just happen to have in a jar a dose of 2cp that will probably kill me if I ingested it all so a little guidance would be appreciated. This is supposed to make 3 ppl trip NUTS the guy that sold it to me says... but he's also told me how he gave 2 drops of DOC to some ppl and that lasted 30+ hours lol so Im not trusting his dose would be the best recommendation if I dont completely want to leave planet earth for 2 days - 10 16 hour trip is fine but 20+ is gonna be wayyy too long lol.

In milligrams how would you translate the dosage into grams? And please dont say 1 mg = 1mL because that's only true of water. I fucking dont know what the "density" of 2cp is.

6-10mg of 2cp is considered a dose, and 16mg a superman high dose - so as you can see, the dosing is steep so I really wanna be careful with this shit lol or ill have to do as much as my guy says and then Ill have to tell my boss i can't work on tuesday because my brain is in the rabbit hole... thanx guys =D
 
i still dont understand what you have: a jar with something in it? what is in it? powder? liquid?

also, how do you trust some vendor who clearly sold some weird shit a while back?
 
I just happen to have in a jar a dose of 2cp that will probably kill me if I ingested it all so a little guidance would be appreciated. This is supposed to make 3 ppl trip NUTS the guy that sold it to me says... but he's also told me how he gave 2 drops of DOC to some ppl and that lasted 30+ hours lol so Im not trusting his dose would be the best recommendation if I dont completely want to leave planet earth for 2 days - 10 16 hour trip is fine but 20+ is gonna be wayyy too long lol.
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DOx's can last a long damn time, i doubt he was trying to screw with you. if 20 hours is way too long, look at something other than 2c-p.

In milligrams how would you translate the dosage into grams? And please dont say 1 mg = 1mL because that's only true of water. I fucking dont know what the "density" of 2cp is.
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Actually the mass of water is 1g = 1ml

You need to know exactly how much went into the liquid, and how much liquid is actually there. Otherwise, we don't have enough data to give you any idea of how much is too much.

on the high end of things, lets assume 50mg are in there which is a little over 16mg for 3 people, rounded up a little to make it an even number. If it was added to 50ml/50 grams of water the dose/ml would be 1mg/ml. Into 25ml of water, 2mg/ml. 10ml water = 5mg/ml.

Im more just trying to give you an idea on how this whole liquid measurement thing works. Find out exactly how much is in it, figure out the volume of water as well. To measure out doses, get a little paper cup, tare it on a scale, and weigh out the desired amount of water using the idea that 1g = 1ml.

If you only know the amount of powder in it, you can add more liquid to bring it to it if it wasn't anything specific in the first place. Figure out mg/ml and dose accordingly. Realise that you can measure volume on a standard scale with the 1:1 ratio of water from mass to volume. Other utensils good for when the highest degree of accuracy is possible is the standard or oral syringe, you won't be able to be more precise with volumetric measures than that.

Assuming you know how much was put into it, you could easily dose it with microgram precision.

Hope it helps and makes sense, its 5:22 and ive been up all night, apologies if a simple-important mistake is made, i encourage others to call me out if they see anything blatant.
 
Welcome to bluelight :) It is very good that you think about proper dosing problems, and don't ingest unknown amount of 2C-P.

So, if you have powder 2C-P, liquid measuring is pretty simple, you dissolve a known amount of chemical in a known amount of water, and then do simple math.

But if I understand correctly, you got unknown dose of 2C-P already dissolved in some amount of water. I have bad news for you, 2Cs are very soluble in water, and I had no problems dissolving 5 mg of 2C-P in 1 ml of water. I think there would be no problems with other concentrations as well. So, basing only on amount of water, it is impossible to know how much 2C-P is in it.

But there are other ways to solve your problem:
1) Ask that guy - not the best idea, IMO
2) Buy 0.001 g scales, if you don't have one already. Then evaporate all solution, and put resulting powder on your scales. And it is done.
Note, that you probably should use some special tableware, definitely not plastic, probably not metallic. Ceramics may be good, but I don't know - wait for other people responses. After evaporation, powder may be hard to unstick from the surface.
3) Throw this 2C-P away, and buy new online, it is not difficult to find it at a good price.

EDIT: I would very careful with doing assumption about amount of chemical. Why 50 mg? Why not 60 or 70 mg? Why not 30 mg? It is all depends on what that guy call NUTS.
 
And OP..... just a precautionary warning

Just so you know, a couple ML of water could have enough 2c-p in it to end you/serious overdose/have you tripping way to hard for comfort for a long time at the very least.
 
Deafeye said:
All of the dosing suggestions that I have found online are in milligrams (mg) and Im having difficulty translating this to milliliters.


I just happen to have in a jar a dose of 2cp that will probably kill me if I ingested it all so a little guidance would be appreciated. This is supposed to make 3 ppl trip NUTS the guy that sold it to me says... but he's also told me how he gave 2 drops of DOC to some ppl and that lasted 30+ hours lol so Im not trusting his dose would be the best recommendation if I dont completely want to leave planet earth for 2 days - 10 16 hour trip is fine but 20+ is gonna be wayyy too long lol.

In milligrams how would you translate the dosage into grams? And please dont say 1 mg = 1mL because that's only true of water. I fucking dont know what the "density" of 2cp is.

6-10mg of 2cp is considered a dose, and 16mg a superman high dose - so as you can see, the dosing is steep so I really wanna be careful with this shit lol or ill have to do as much as my guy says and then Ill have to tell my boss i can't work on tuesday because my brain is in the rabbit hole... thanx guys =D
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Do you know exactly how much 2C-P there is in the liquid in mg? If you know the amount of liquid, you can get an approximate mg/ml ratio, which you use to calculate your dose.

Anecdotally I've found the effects of 2C-P to be strong, perhaps slightly overwhelming if your not prepared for it, but fairly forgiving, as I've found it to be somewhat anxiolitic (anxiety nullifying). That said I've probably only taken 8-10 mg tops, though have found both the effects and body load to be rather pleasant, and is in fact one of my favourite chemicals now. of course your mileage may vary, and if you are completely unfamiliar with the chemical - start low, that way you can always add more to get the effect you desire.

2C-P however, has a very long onset orally - 2-3 hours. Nasally this is cut to perhaps 10 minutes, but I find the trip to be somewhat "front-loaded", in other words, you plateau rapidly (with a pretty high intensity), then slowly taper down back to baseline over the next 12 or so hours. I'd like to take a proper oral dose - hopefully this will extend the plateau. Insuffliation of 2C-P burns though - and if its your first time this isn't recommended.

As for toxicity, with 2C-P I don't know, but many of the other 2C family (the 2C-T-X family are a bit different as they seem to cause idiosyncratic reactions occasionally), are thought to have fairly high lethal doses. Of course its possible 2C-P is different, so its worth being cautious here. Nearly all the reports of people who have taken over about 15-20 mg have found the trip to be very unpleasant in terms of intensity, so worth bearing that in mind.
 
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From what i can tell you have an unknown amount of 2c-p in an unknown amount of water... good thing you didn't take it already :)

As allium said before, evaporating it & weighing it is probably the best option. You can get a somewhat respectable set of mg sensitive scales pretty cheap over the web. I would use a porcelain "oven safe" plate to dry the solution. They're pretty cheap at department type stores. Then a razor blade or some such would be fine for scraping up the resultant powder, then you should be able to transfer it to a scale with pretty minimal loss.
 
kingme said:
i still dont understand what you have: a jar with something in it? what is in it? powder? liquid?

also, how do you trust some vendor who clearly sold some weird shit a while back?
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I have a jar with liquid 2cp as i stated in my title... it is not powder, its liquid form.


Also, this vendor is my friend, he wouldn't screw me, he would just make me trip to hard and wish i had taken less... lol. For example, he recommended I snort 2cE which was a crazy ass experience, Im never doing that again! lol ill eat it tho..


He has sold me bomb ass hash, lady g's, and greeeaaatttt acid. I took .1 of molly, 1 lady G and 1 1/2 hits of acid and I went to Ultra 13 lol. It was aaamazing.
 
I believe he said there is 50mg in here, which is about what the top poster was saying. But one thing is having 2cp dissolved in water, and having actual liquid 2cp - no water in it? Isn't that possible? The 2ce he sold it to me in powder form, so I see absolutely no reason why they would dissolve it in water - it makes it so hard to fucking sell the shit. lol. btw, he traded this 2cp for 5 hits of acid, so that's what these two ppl averaged out the dosing was for me to buy for $40. I think it was a good deal. And fuck no im not throwing it away, i rather call in sick at work.
 
A strong recreational dose of 2c-p is about 8mg, IIRC.

I've never heard of liquid 2c-p but I don't know whether or not it's possible, and if so whether it would be at all likely to see on the market.
 
Deafeye said:
I believe he said there is 50mg in here, which is about what the top poster was saying. But one thing is having 2cp dissolved in water, and having actual liquid 2cp - no water in it? Isn't that possible? The 2ce he sold it to me in powder form, so I see absolutely no reason why they would dissolve it in water - it makes it so hard to fucking sell the shit. lol. btw, he traded this 2cp for 5 hits of acid, so that's what these two ppl averaged out the dosing was for me to buy for $40. I think it was a good deal. And fuck no im not throwing it away, i rather call in sick at work.
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Well, i'm not sure where you're located, but unless you're on mercury or venus its 2c-p dissolved in water, as 2c-p has a melting point of around 208°C ;)

50mg is 5 solid trips, though personally i'd recommend starting a bit below 10mg, more like 6-8. If it is 50mg (might wanna double check with the guy you got it from) you can just get a metered oral syringe from the drug store (about $2), measure the volume, divide by 5, & voilà, one dose. It would be wise to back it off just a touch from 1/5th of the volume for a first time, so you're getting about 8-9mg.

Also, do note that it'll take 3-3.5hrs to fully come on, some still feel like they're coming up around 4 or 5hrs into it, so don't go redosing 90 minutes in unless you wanna be extra spun for a day or so.
 
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Liquid 2C-P is possible, but it is hiiiiighly unlikely you have it.
If your 2C-P is in salt form, then it should have temperature over its melting point(around 200 degrees) to be liquid. Or it should be in freebase form. Freebase 2Cs are oils.

This is the picture of vial, containing 2C-T-4 freebase.
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this all makes sense to me now. So i say this solution contains 4 good fucking really high trip doses then of about 12.5mg - a very intense trip, and 5 NORMAL doses of about 7mg ea for a good nice trip nothing to over the top.

It does sound like he wanted me to take the 16.66 mg dose which is what I was about to do tonight with 3 other ppl, but it sounds like diving it by 4 sounds the best.. Considering how he doses himself I say that's about what he wanted me to do lol.


And like I said, he's a cool guy - he gave me one of his needles (he's a diabetic he has a lot) to help me measure the dose. So I deff. trust him, he just wants me to go to planet mars hahaha
 
16mg trips have been reported to have almost toxic side effects. I specifically remember a trip report from mon.roe about a 16mg trip where he had residual effects for more than a day and severe heart palpitations. your friend sounds like a dick, or at the very least he needs to do his reserach better.
 
ok so i just took a 1/4 of what i had in my jar.


it turned out to be 3.5cc (measured with an insulin needle)


i consumed it with some juice, did not taste it. Im tripping with 3 ppl who had the same dose, my roommate, my gf, the guy that sold it to me and of course me. We all consumed the same amount at about 2:45 am. Let's see what happens :)


i will reply tomorrow.
 
That was fucking reckless. If I had an amount of 2C-P that I thought my friend who would knowingly make me trip hard put in a liquid I wouldn't go chowing down 1/4 of it. Especially with 2C-P. The only thing that makes me think this won't go horribly is that the dealer also took the same amount.

Good luck to you...
 
Good luck to you. Dosing yourself with suspected 12.5 mg(and possible even more) is one thing, but dosing 4 people with such amount is another. It is irresponsible and dangerous.

I hope everything will be alright! <3
 
Any update on this? How did the trip go?

I absolutely love 2C-P, I think it is a magical chemical and love reading how other people get on with it.
 
Ok so that was very fun.

We ingested the 2cp at around 2:45 am and it started kicking in at about 3:30 am which was very surprising, I thought it would take at least 2 hours. Only anomaly was that my gf didn't trip at all, don't know what happened there... (she had some xanax before taking 2cp, and did a lot of 2ce 3 days earlier, so I wonder if this had something to do with it but i doubt it because I did some too.) I dosed everybody equally...


2cp was a lot like 2ce per the visuals, the complexity of the closed eyed visuals, minus the jittering of everything, it was more like a wave, undulating. Everything had trails, anybody can be shiva at this point.

@ around 6am we went to watch the sunrise, tripping nuts - a beautiful sunrise. It looked like an ever morphing painting.


Then we came back to the house and I laughed hysterically for hours lol for no reason. If my gf blew air at me it made me laugh - it was that kinda shit. Also the buildups of house songs were very intense and also made me laugh haha ... I had an absolute great time.

I went to bed at around 2 pm still tripping nuts cuz i took some xananx and it put me out. I woke up like 8 hours later to eat, then went back to bed.

Deff gonna repeat it and next time - i dunno, ill have some lsd around in case my gf doesn't trip. She did see minor trails and what not, but nothing like us.
 
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