Help! How do I stop ketamine befor it's to late !!!

[Strachan420]

Iv been using Ketamine for the last 6 years I started when I was 16 taking ketamine in small bits every weekend say a gram between 2 or 3 people Im a big weed smoker and was in love with the buzz of a small amount of ketamine (bump) and cannabis I also would some times take MDMA as well Over the time of about a year or 2 I Complety stop taking MDMA but carried on with Ketamine All my friends went the other way and stoped taking ketamine and stuck with MDMA even tho this happend I still stayed close with my friends and still go out with them till this day but I am the only ketamine user now LOL It has got to the point now I am 21 years old and am using ketamine every day at least 1 gram I will spend every bit of money on bags off K Its geting out of control I wake up off a day say 9am rack a line up (1/2 gram) and smoke a spliff " i aways save 1/2gram and a spliff for the morning Lol " then get washed and dressed by 10am I would be setting off out to go buy ketamine for that day
It got that bad for money that i started dealing ketamine just to pay for my £40 to £100 addiction with in 3-4 months my phone would not stop ringing I was selling 2oz of ketamine a week at least some times 4 or 5 oz (mainly due to the fact I meet this contact that sells vials of K witch I used to dry my self bag up and sell I had the purest and ovasly the strongest K around)

Because of all this my addiction got crazy I could aford to use as mutch as 5grams a day I then Learnt how to use ketamine IM and found out what a "TRUE" K-Hole was lol Not long after then I lost contact with my guy and could only get ketamine already dried in oz's because of this and ovasly my addiction I had to carry on selling just to aford ketamine daily I am now on about 2 grams at lest ! A day sniffing and IM due to this My tolarance to ketamine is beyond stupid as well now I can sniff a gram line and wallk to my local shops and back I cannot hit a K-Hole no more by sniffing and believe me iv tried (3gram / 4gram lines) lines like 15cm long lichlay <no prices> worth off ketamine in a line if I want to hit hole it has to be IM

Im losing my mind and lately my body has started to react to my abuse I am having to use the tolliet up to 30 times a day peeing out extremely small amounts off pee lichlay 1/2 a small shot glass full I am having to wake up and use the toliet 4/5 times a night as well I get cramps if I go more than 2 or 3 days without eny ketamine I have been to my doctor and have had test done on my bladder and stomac The doctor has told me that the cells in my bladder are slowly being destroyed and that my bladder is achaly strinking in size She has told me i still have time and that the damage "so far" is revurseable But if I was to carry on that By the age off 23 I could lose my bladder

Even tho all this I still love ketamine and am still amazed with the K-hole still to this day and I would love to still use this amazing drug in years to come but I have to stop Complety for a good cope of years so my body can repair and my tolarance to drop Lol Iv tried more times than I can count to stop but allways relapse into the first week the most iv been without ketamine in the last 3 years is 17 days (the longest 17 days of my life LOL) I try to occupie myself with cannabis and going out with my mates but every time I get home a bag will come straight out

iv looked about for rehabs and sober living but it seems that none of them are ketamine related Im going to start making chages Mainly sell my phone and get rid of all my equipment and enthink that reminds me of ketamine After this I was going to get a 1/4 off ketamine shards (7grams) and slowly cut back I can't ! Go cold turkey mainly due to the pain off k cramps but I hope with in 2 moths that I will stop and try stay that way for as long as it takes for my body to heal As I said I want to use K In years to come so need to stop now befor is to late

I just wanted to know if eny one knows eny places in south England that help people on ketamine or if eny of you have eny advice or good information on ketamine addition as I need all the help and info I can get thank you x

Ps sorry about the spelling lol

 

[beforethebeginning]

try using a different drug as a substitute but make sure u dont get addicted to that drug then.
sounds like you need to stop using ketamine forever because u don't want to damage ur bladder even more,
do you?

i would think of a ketamine withdrawal and maintainance schedual like this:
Day1: 2,5mg lorazepam
Day2: 2x45mg codein (cold water extract. no Acetinaphomen/paracetamol/aspirin/ibuprofen to damage ur body!!!)
Day3: same as day 1
Day 4: same as day 2
Day 5: Weed
Day 6: Alcohol
Day 7-Day 8: Sober
As of now, do lorazepam 1mg two times per week (this is probably the absolute maximum u can use it and not become physically addicted to it)
If u do a benzo with a long halflife like diazepam two times per week, it practically nevers gets out of ur system so physical addiction is guaranteed with the long halflife benzos

If none of this works,
try to go on Buprenorphine maintance or methadone or possibly even an antidepressant (but quit all these asap cause they probably all have nasty sideeffects especially if u take em longterm)

no drug is worth losing ur health over,
and dont romanticize K too much....

there's plenty of other drugs that are magical.
ur brain needs time to reset itself ur not thinking straight

if u cant stay off em now, don't postpone going to doctor again and entering a detox clinic...
u cant afford a few more months on ketamine!

and seriously,
none of the side-effects of antidepressants could ever be as bad as losing yourbladder

 

[Ganj]

It sounds like your fantasizing over K even as you write this, sub-consciously trying to convince your self how magical it is and that it is worth the side effects. Like beforethebegining said you may not have 2 months before the damage becomes irreversible.

It sounds like you have something pretty good going on with your friends if your all still going after 3+ years. Why not get them to help you? Ask them to come over and help you dispose of the majority of your current stash and if you can stay at their place for the duration of the withdrawal, with them carefully administering periodically lowering doses until your almost off the stuff.

If they are completely off K then you shouldn't have that much trouble severing any bridges with people associated with the stuff. Take a moment to think about how precious your body is, give it a break.

 

[Vaya]

Hey,
I've been there with Methoxetamine man...a coupla times, now

For me, it's just so hard to look the nurse you see initially in the eye and attempt to explain why you're decaying as a result of radical administration of something that just wasn't part of the lesson plan when they got their nursing degrees. Usually they make me repeat the name of the chemical seven times before giving up and having me write it on a piece of paper, along with what common drug it's supposed to mimic, so that they can give it to the doctor and have him or her come in and then the process repeats, albeit replace the scrubs with a white labcoat or casual polo-wear.

And I'm sitting ther looking and feeling like a specimen in some freak investigation.

But you know what?

I never leave having regretted swallowing my pride whole, having unhinged my jaw in order to fit my inflated ego into my belly.
It's become an exercise in humility for me.

I think I'd like to move this over to The Dark Side for you.

Wiki >>> TDS

~ Vaya

 

[herbavore]

I am sure that with a small bit of distance from daily use that your thinking will become clearer. Your bladder is decaying. No high in the world is worth that kind of damage to your body. The hard part is that you are still in this reality (getting high everyday for years) and you are thinking from that perspective only. Your body, in this paradigm, is secondary. But that is the craziness of addiction talking! Your body is your life.

The use of ketamine in small doses for depression has been documented as promising. Maybe depression is what originally drew you to overuse? Getting support for the physical withdrawals is important but getting support for the mental withdrawals is crucial, too.

There are many ways to feel good that do not involve being high. Right now you are romanticizing a high that your tolerance prevents you from even experiencing. Ask yourself what it is that the high gives you that you love? Escape? Adventure? Calm? Wellbeing? If you have been experiencing these only in a drug state since you were 16 that means that you have little experience in achieving those by non-drug means. Learning ways to make your life satisfying and fulfilling to you is a lifelong process. Be patient with your self right now. You are going through a lot physically and mentally. You need support for both. Don't let the damage become permanent and don't let addiction keep drowning out all the voices of reason and self-preservation in your head.

 

[phatass]

You need to plan, what will you do with your time when you're no longer doing ket? study? work? Love i can't imagine having a gf and doing 5g of k per day)?

Med-wise i would advise seeing a doctor and getting on somlething (anything to substitute the K) benzos like valium would be the first thing to come to mind, but then maybe bupe would be better than losing an organ, baclofene works for alcohol and cocaine addictions by reducing cravings, maybe it does the same for K.

I was dealing k (and stuff) and using up to 3-4 g a day at the end, it was only when i relocated geographically and had no connects that i was able to stop with ease.

good luck

 

[Strachan420]

Hello everyone thanks for posting back sice posting this I am now on my 3erd week completely clean of ketamine (22days) and I firstly got say its the first time in nearly 6 years Iv had no ketamine for this long and I fell like I have to share what I'v lent trying to overcome this demon of a drug like I said in my first post it got the point I HAD! To stop my body was a mess and I know if It wasn't the fact that I was so scared off losing my bladder I probley still be on K now it's just ashame it had to get the that point ;( but envy way I had a long talk to myself and knew it was time to give up the K the first thing I did was get rid of enthibk to do with ketamine I sold my phone got rid of my 'k-box' n serplies and complete got rid of enthink I then went back to my doctor and got some pain pills to help with the pain of k cramps I then stayed at my mates house for the week detoxing the only drug I took in these 6 days was cannabis and pain pills after the 6 days I booked a 3 day Tripp to Amsterdam mainly to keep my mind occupied when I got back the cravings wher still bad but I was still in a mindset not to relapse and to stay of ketamine I. Mainly been trying to get back into old hobbies and have been doing well I can say for me cannabis has help me a lot during this detox mainly pain and just keeping my self occupied but the biggest thing has been my mind set you gotta complete what to give up ketamine if these still a little part of you that what's to take K you are going to relapse I think the best thing for me to think and keep saying to my self every time I think or crave for k is "Do I really want to have that last buzz or hole and risk lossing my bladder? Ketamine will ALWAYS be about it will still be hear in 10 years and it will still be about in a 1000 years so why risk that 1 last buzz"? Giving up ketamine is the hardest thing I'v done in my life I really ! Dident think I could stop really ! I torght that it was all over for me that I would die a ketamine addict but if I can stop enyone fucking can xxx

 

[thedawn]

i can give u some suggestions and advice.
but not here at the moment.

if u need support,PM me.

 

[herbavore]

That is really great news, Strachan! Congratulations. Is your bladder starting to recover?

 

[Strachan420]

Thanks herbavore and yes it will start to heal if I stay clean the doctors have told me it will be a very long recovery proses but I'm am very determend to stay clean no one what's to hear that thay will end up losing ther bladder I just wanted to say tho last month I could never see my self of ketamine I was so fucking bad and I know I'v only been clean for 3 weeks (and people probably thinking 3 weeks is not that long at all) but for me them 3 weeks has giving my head time to clear up a bit I'v realised how bad I was and how bad a ketamine habit is ketamine addicts don't see their selfs as a drug addict but its is !!!! I think to my self how bad I got I mean looking back I was on the same level as a junkie I was a junkie fucking in all my life I never thought I would inject I mean the fuck was I doing to myself from going out raving all over England having a dencent job and at the time a amazing girlfriend to sitting in a empty flat sniffing and injecting ketamine lichaly wallking and laying about tranked up to my eyeballs I'v lost so muth to ketamine including a good last 3 years of my life I can't think what I'v done sice I left school but I'm changing and I hope enyone with a ketamine addition to seek help ! I love ketamine but fuck me its evil in a little Bottle lol I can safely say my K days are over for a very long time for now I can't say for sure if il ever take it agen I mean thinking about it I'v had some amazing times with K and some fucking bad times as well but for most of my teenage years I was tranked a fucking zombie I'm just thinking about my future now I really miss my girlfriend and seing her a Cople days ago has made me more determend to stay clean deep down il aways love ketamine but deep down I also know I'm not a junkie and just can't Waite to show people that that old ketamine junkie is gone and the old clean shaving sexy motherfucker is back better and stronger then ever London better watch out ! Lol

 

[Ganj]

I am genuinely happy for you! Feel good about conquering your habit!

 

[Papaverium]

Good on you Strachan!

Ketamine is more addictive than it seems at first, then before you know it, you're having a line with every bong rip. It becomes a ritual.
She's a sneaky bastard.

A close friend of mine is heavily addicted still, and has experienced bladder problems, I'm glad I got off it before that happened to me I could only imagine the pain experienced....
I hope you feel better very soon, and your bladder will forgive you!! Stay strong~

 

[[éS]Infinite]

Man good job on cleaning up. I've never gone far down the rabbit hole with ketamine, but I have used more than I'm comfortable with. Some of my friends have gone through the symptoms you described; constantly needing to urinate, extreme abdominal pain and a general lack of productivity in life. As soon as their heads got clear (due to a rather significant bust in Canada) they were able to stay away for many years and can use it occasionally now, but still struggle to keep from relapse.
Anyways, glad to hear you won't need to be permanently catheterised!

 

[Strachan420]

Thanks everyone it has been hard to stay clean but when your body is suffering from a drug saidley it is time to stop I could of never seen my self of K at the start of the year and the small time I'v had of it has really help me relise things I just want to say to enyone that is suffering from a ketamine addiction to seek help now !! The felling knowing that you may lose your bladder is not worth eny ketamine buzz or hole in the world help your self befor it's 2 late I'm very lucky I got help and stop befor the damage was permanent don't be scared to seek help and don't be embarrased and don't give a fuck about enyone apart from yourself you are your own person and its your life and no cunt should have to put up with a drug habit

 

[Oxy_Ghost]

This topic isn't really for me but I just wanted to say congrats on getting clean. I have no experience with ketamine or know what it really is honestly but it sounds like it sucks. But something I could give advice on is if your still taking the pain meds, becareful with them especially if it's oxy's or something. Opiate addiction isn't fun either. I'm going on 7 days clean from a 4yr oxy use and heroin(snorting and shooting oxy's and only shooting heroin, never snorted it). I don't really know the dangers of taking them orally(like if they damage your body in any way, I never looked that up) but obviously getting to the point of shooting them is gonna damage your body and snorting them isn't good with the binders and stuff going in your lungs. Just becareful and don't trade one shitty addiction for another or trade one health problem like your bladder for another health problem like your lungs or veins.

 

[Strachan420]

Thanks oxy ghost and no I'm on very weack pain pills I don't need enthink like oxy or subtext lol the pain is very manageable if I had to explain the pain it's like someone pushing ther fingers hard into my side and when I pee it's more of a wired felling and a slight sting and cramp up felling I get Enyway way If it gets a bit too mucth a big bong ripp or two relly helps lol I know a opiate addition is a mucth harder withdrawal than a ketamine my older brother had a 8 year junk habit befor he Manage to kick it and is now on his 3 year clean of H personally I have only tried Brown on two different ocations smoking and I have used I'V once and found that the buzz was well to sickly for me and i just felt very very ill and couldn't get injoyment out of the ride lol in a way I look back and think I was stupid to even try H if it wasn't for my ketamine addition I would of never ever think of even trying H to see what it dose to people first hand it truly is a horrific drug taking ketamine IM is on the same level as H in a way I used to call it pyscadelic H lol eny way I hope u can sort out your opiate addition soon I

 

[Oxy_Ghost]

Thanks oxy ghost and no I'm on very weack pain pills I don't need enthink like oxy or subtext lol the pain is very manageable if I had to explain the pain it's like someone pushing ther fingers hard into my side and when I pee it's more of a wired felling and a slight sting and cramp up felling I get Enyway way If it gets a bit too mucth a big bong ripp or two relly helps lol I know a opiate addition is a mucth harder withdrawal than a ketamine my older brother had a 8 year junk habit befor he Manage to kick it and is now on his 3 year clean of H personally I have only tried Brown on two different ocations smoking and I have used I'V once and found that the buzz was well to sickly for me and i just felt very very ill and couldn't get injoyment out of the ride lol in a way I look back and think I was stupid to even try H if it wasn't for my ketamine addition I would of never ever think of even trying H to see what it dose to people first hand it truly is a horrific drug taking ketamine IM is on the same level as H in a way I used to call it pyscadelic H lol eny way I hope u can sort out your opiate addition soon I

Yeah, I never smoked H, I always banged it. I'd get a nausea feeling as soon as it hit me but it always went away within a couple min at the beginning of my H use I would always end up throwing up. Idk if it's from the pills or not, I've never got a straight answer but I get a burning sensation when I pee too. A couple years ago I had this problem but it hurt so bad that I was terrified to go pee. I went to the doctor and had test done but they never could find out whatever's wrong. So i went to the store and got some Azo and after taking that once, it never burned again but for the past 6 months or so it's starting to burn again. Not real bad but some times it's enough to make my toes curl. It even burns durring orgasm, that could be TMI but I'm hoping someone will read this and have some suggestions as to what could be wrong with me and ways to make it go away. I don't wanna have a bad sex life especially since I have a fiancé.

But yeah I regret every trying heroin. I only tried it my first time cuz I was withdrawing and my Fiancés friend had givin her some some. We didn't have money for pills so it was the H or feel like shit. I was only using it for a month, 1/2 a point to a whole point a day. I could get high 3 or 4 times out of a point. But I'm glad I got out before it got bad. I've heard it's worse and harder to get off than oxy's.

If you really need to get high than just smoke bud. That's what I'd be doing but I have DSS on my ass so I can't do anything at all. I'm sure I'll start smoking again at some point

 

[Strachan420]

Oxy I'm guessing you live in USA lol Oxycoten or how ever u spell it lol is mucth harder to get hold of in the UK it's mainly just straight up brown but sice ketamine has been so easy to get hold of a number of H users started taking K just because of the cheapness and the fact you can use IM insted of IV ketamine is not a opiate and will not stop sickness but a ketamine buzz is on the same sort of level but ketamine tolrace will rise so quick is unreal at the start of my k use a gram would be more than enough at the peack I was on 2 grams without fail sometimes up 4 or 5 thinking about it now I'm not surprised my body hasn't been permently damaged I'v snorted n shot so mucth K in my days is stupid but I'm in a mucth better place ATM this is my first full month of K and I fell great I mean I'm relly bored and don't relly know what to do with myself now I'm not a zombie lol I now thinking of getting a job and being a normal person lol and mainly that I need to make some money lol but mainly I'm just happy ATM mostly that I'm back talking to my Ex I'v missed her so mucth is unreal and it was my ketamine abuse that pushed her away she is not a big drug taker at all she enjoys a drag on a blunt every now and then lol but that's it eny way she knows that I'm clean and is amazed that I did it and she tells me that I'm more my self now back to the old me she knew in school looking back I put her trough hell I never knew what I had going for me back then being clean has relly made me relise things

 

[Oxy_Ghost]

Oxy I'm guessing you live in USA lol Oxycoten or how ever u spell it lol is mucth harder to get hold of in the UK it's mainly just straight up brown but sice ketamine has been so easy to get hold of a number of H users started taking K just because of the cheapness and the fact you can use IM insted of IV ketamine is not a opiate and will not stop sickness but a ketamine buzz is on the same sort of level but ketamine tolrace will rise so quick is unreal at the start of my k use a gram would be more than enough at the peack I was on 2 grams without fail sometimes up 4 or 5 thinking about it now I'm not surprised my body hasn't been permently damaged I'v snorted n shot so mucth K in my days is stupid but I'm in a mucth better place ATM this is my first full month of K and I fell great I mean I'm relly bored and don't relly know what to do with myself now I'm not a zombie lol I now thinking of getting a job and being a normal person lol and mainly that I need to make some money lol but mainly I'm just happy ATM mostly that I'm back talking to my Ex I'v missed her so mucth is unreal and it was my ketamine abuse that pushed her away she is not a big drug taker at all she enjoys a drag on a blunt every now and then lol but that's it eny way she knows that I'm clean and is amazed that I did it and she tells me that I'm more my self now back to the old me she knew in school looking back I put her trough hell I never knew what I had going for me back then being clean has relly made me relise things

Yeah I live in the USA but I wasn't on oxycontin, I was on oxycodone. There isn't really OxyContin where I live anymore. They changed it from OC(oxycontin)to OP(I forgot the real name), it's like rubber. You cant break it in half unless you use a knife to saw it in half and you can't crush it. Apparently you can cook it in a microwave and all this other shit to get it to crush but I didn't wanna do that. But oxycontin and oxycodone are almost the same. OC may be a tad stronger but idk id only done OC once and it was a small dose.

What does IM mean? I keep seeing you put that but I don't know what it is haha I don't even know what ketamine is. I've never heard of anyone around here having any. But where I live, .1 of some good tar is cheaper than a 30mg oxycodone and I could get high more times off a point of H. It's cheaper in the beginning but H makes your tolerance skyrocket in a short amount if time(at least for me it did) so in the long run it's more expensive.

I feel ya on being bored. I haven't done anything this whole week I've been clean. It's been too cold to go outside so I've just been layin around the house and having my fiancé and daughter not here makes it even more boring and harder to get through the day

I'm trying to get a job too, to keep me busy and i need the money so I can get out of my parents house and get a place of my own and a car. That's part of my motivation. I know if I'm using than I can't get a job cuz EVERYONE drug tests. You can't even be a bag boy at a grocery store without having to take a drug test. The only jobs that don't test are waitor/waitress jobs. Everyone around here that's a waitor or waitress is a drug user haha

 

[Strachan420]

IM means inject into muscle unlike H you can inject ketamien straight into muscle saves time trying to find your Vains and messing your vains up also it doesn't leave bad track Marks using IM dose leave the site you injected very sore tho lol but this is why a loade of people with a junk habit starting using K like I said ketamine won't stop you from being sick but if you can't get hold of eny H ketamine is the next best thing