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Help, help. Really bad trip.

Zodiakk

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I insufflated ~10mg of 2c-e earlier with confidence in how well my life was turning around. But it was stupid. I'm having a tornado of agony and misery!
I realized that I was burying my problems lately, and that they are just getting worse while I spend 8 hours trying not to think about them.
I just got back into school [I am only 18] after being kicked out and having to 'do time in peewee prison' at this opportunity school. So I think I let my guard down, and am now devastated by things in life I should be able to handle.
 
You're tripping now? Think you should just cool out and really examine your life, where you're going and what you really want to do. Take note of what you're doing to yourself as well as others around you and examine if it's really worth it. I've never been the victim of a bad trip and I've been nervous even right before. My confidence level had nothing to do with the outcome. I was just so concretely sure in what I was doing in life that I knew the drug wouldn't have an adverse effect. I always take the time to show my respect for each drug I take before ingestion. I'm alos looking forward to a heroic dose of LSD when I can get my hands on the stuff. (Have done it before but connecs' dry)

Anyway take the time to straighten out what's going on in your life before hoping back on drugs. Handle all that first bro and the drugs will treat you right.
 
Realize that you cannot make everything right at this very moment but what you can do is put your intentions in order. Really think and reflect on how you have been doing and intently decide to confront it with honesty towards yourself.
If you can feel how you should change your attitude you can start believing in that and plan to make a real effort to change it. But before you will be able to do anything you better forgive yourself (although not before having been truthfully honest).

After you have forgiven yourself see that you deserve to relax a little more about it and in time it will settle down. Trust that it will.
 
I've been in similar situations a few times. Try taking benadryl, a shower, watch something distracting, get your mind off your problems for now, deal with them when you're in a better state of mind.

Try any and everything that makes you happy normally, you'll get through this and once you're down it won't seem near as bad. If you can eat, try eating a good meal. Basically anything that'll keep ur mind active until you come down will be helpful. If you have any benzos laying around I would make use of them. Think happy thoughts.
 
They aren't things I can fix. My best friend hung himself and my long term girlfriend left me for another guy overnight... my problem is that I feel like I should create some principals to not let myself get hurt anymore, instead of just shunning every chance I get to have a new friend or connect with another girl... and a way to be social without getting arrested [sorry for being overly open]. I thought I would have some really high grade cannabis, but I lost it somewhere in my room. Would Vodka be a good fix?
 
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I'd advice against throwing alcohol into the mix if your not feeling emotionally stable. A shot or two might soften things out a bit - however, being fully aware most peoples (myself included) tendencies with alcohol, I cant bring myself to recommend that.

I'm not sure how to react to cannabis, but knowing myself, I'd be tearing apart my room to find that shit ;)
Cannabis is the ultimate comfort inducing agent (o noes! CIA, :D) for me.

Good luck my friend, and remember, its just a trip :)
 
Alcohol can help, but it also can make things worse.

Listen, currently you're NOT in a bad trip. It is not bad, but it is difficult, probably very difficult and unpleasant. Difficult trips do bring problems to the surface, and as I can see, this trip can be very profound for you.

You're right, there are some problems that you can't solve, but there are a lot of things you can change!
 
You shouldn't (as a general rule) look for quick fixes in life, and you shouldn't look for quick fixes right now.

You seem to understand that these bad feelings are coming up for a specific reason, so aborting your trip would be stupid. (in my opinion, of course).

I know how you feel man, I had a similar trip, actually on 2C-E, while some heavy shit was going on in my life. Just try and realize the shit that you've been going through is exceptionally bad and it's normal to feel weakened by it. Just don't try to fight or hide it.

The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance.
-Alan Watts
 
It's likely you've came down a fair bit now. Where you tripping alone? I find that this (when things are on your mind) can produce a far bigger headfuck on psychedelics, I recommend having a sitter or trip buddy.
If this sort've thing happens to you again, I recommend putting on music you consider calming - even good old Bob Marley does the trick. Try and find something to distract yourself, three good ones for this (although some people may frown upon some for tripping) are:

1: Drawing - although it could be possible your art takes a negative turn, but drawing takes time and with that comes distraction and also your trip will slowly be calming down.
2: Video Games - put on something fun to laugh at, platformers are pretty good on psychedelics as they are nicely paced without too much waiting but not too fast.
3: Movies - put on a funny movie like a stoner comedy, or something that you find funny normally or something with an excellent story to get lost in.
 
You,me and most of the people i know underestimated the biblical power of 2c -e.Im with you brother,been there many times and best thing you can do now is go DEEP inside you and see what u can find there,its worth it
 
and most important aspect of 2ce imo....DONT fight your emotions,its a substance that is well known for exacerbating all your emotions,wich is not a bad thing as long as you are in a safe place man,go find the corner where you feel safe and warm,put on some ambiental music,i strongly recommend you SOFASPACE.NET ,best radio for this types of trips...go there and emerge :)
 
Since you insufflated I assume you are over the hump now.
For what it's worth it sounds like this was not a good point in your life to trip. I deal with depressin and I can tell you from experience that your frame of mind can frame the course of your trip.
The suggestion above regarding drawing or video games is a great one. It focuses you on something other than yourself.
I also agree that alcohol would more likely than not be a bad move.
Have been using psychedelics for just short of 40 years now and I would have to say that my pre-trip mood and mindset are significant contributing factors to the quality of a ppsychedelic experience. You have had some significant trauma in your life. There is no shame in seeking someone to talk to about it.
You are in my thoughts and prayers..have been since I read your post when you fiirst posted it
 
2C-E is certainly one of the most difficult, and subsequently, rewarding 2-carbon compounds I have yet experienced. With that said, once one is attuned to the off-setting and intense come-up, as well as the 'introspection by force', it can really be molded into a fun and comfortable experience, in my opinion. Cannabis and soft-but-complex music are essentials for me on any 2C-E venture.

Insufflation can also dramatically increase the anxiety and regret-like feelings of 2C-E. Personally I like to take a dose orally, wait until I get over the 'hump' to see if I am in a positive headspace, and then insufflate until the cows come home. Going from sober to insufflating 2C-E can be a bit over the top, even if you have good experience with the compound.
 
Personally, I wouldn't choose cannabis... though I love it normally, I find it intensifies psychedelics, and not always in a good or easy way.

I've had similarly challenging experiences on 2C-E... often I've gone through hell and self-hatred and despair. But they have never been a constant: each trip has also had times of joy and insight and relief, with these often emerging from the hellish bits. Understanding yourself is a blessing in its own right, even if the things you are learning are not nice or easy to learn.

If you are feeling so bad that you feel you are a risk to yourself, either get someone you can trust (and who's cool about psychedelics) to be with you or just try to chill, meditate, with calming music or suchlike.

If it's not quite that bad, just keep going: you'll get through this. It's a long, but finite, trip, and you may find good things on your way. :)

Good luck!
 
They aren't things I can fix. My best friend hung himself and my long term girlfriend left me for another guy overnight... my problem is that I feel like I should create some principals to not let myself get hurt anymore, instead of just shunning every chance I get to have a new friend or connect with another girl... and a way to be social without getting arrested [sorry for being overly open]. I thought I would have some really high grade cannabis, but I lost it somewhere in my room. Would Vodka be a good fix?

Zodiakk, you came on here and openly told us your shit and asked for help, I have a lot of respect for that so Im gonna give you the courtesy back.

Mannnn, god knows I been in the same boat your currently in. Before I turned 18 I actually went through 3 sperate long term programs like the one you were at (first one wasnt to bad, then i got sent back and eventually ran, then i got sent to a stricter one and there was a lot of other jails/institutions inbetween) and ate up a fucking year and a half (just talking about being strictly locked up)of my teen years before I realized maybe I needed to re-evaluate the way I was living my life.

Now listen man there wasnt a damn thing wrong with me that wasnt the result of either surpressing the way I felt, or myself coming to terms with the fact that the world isnt what I wanted or thought it would be. I mean getting arrested, the insane depression, masking the depression w/ apathy or anger or whatever, those were just the symptoms. They were rooted in real, seeable problems I was going through. And these problems wernt unique to me (like I thought they were), rather I just had a differnt way of addressing them then others around me. But you better believe that no matter what kind of facade people put on we are all dogged by low self esteem/depression/broken-heartedness/etc.

Now what almost no-one does is to actually look at these problems, to address them. Believe there was a long time in my life when I sure as shit didnt, and fuck knows that was a dark time. What your going through, what were all going through, it cant be hidden. It can be masked but make no mistake that it cant be hidden. Vodka, drug use, fuck even weed these can all be used as masks. Now they can also be the most beautiful things on earth, if used appropriately. But if your like me, you have to seriously contemplate and ask yourself why your doing these things.

See, none of us can tell you what your problems are, why you're at where your at, so of course we cant give you any real advice as to what you need to do. The only thing advice I can give you (if your not willing to seek outside help, if you're not you atm you may want to read a bit up on humility) is to not ignore or mask your feelings. Its gonna get a loss worse before it gets better. That is the reality of addressing depression (what I would imagine was the root of your bad trip). For me, coming to terms with my best friends death, my fathers death, the reality of the world, it was the hardest thing I ever had to do and its still something Im working on years later. Its something Ill be dealing with to the day I die. It is the reality of being a human. Sometimes I still cry when I think about them, and sometimes when Im tripping these issues still come up. But today I actually know how to handle these feelings, that its a beautiful part of life to feel them, and that Im not alone, and you can believe its a far sight better then it was back when I just tried to ignore it. And man, I really hope Im not coming across like some religous nut (Im athiest) or some NA/AA type counselor (I think those orginazations are boderline cults and excuses to justify behavior, no addiction is not a disease, and drug use can be a beautiful, beautiful thing), Im just giving the best advice I can, what worked for me.
 
Guys, y'all don't know what this means to me. I came back to this post after a very foolish accident on my part.
The cannabis was a gift from my friend [from my post] 15 days before his selfish act, so I wasn't about to let it get lost in my room... not to mention I don't want any possible legal sneak-attacks.
But I smoked 2 bowls, even though I knew how strong it was and that getting too disoriented could cause psychosis. I then drank some of the Vodka... but the advice on keeping it to a few shots may have saved my life.
I was obviously too intoxicated, but my dad is out of town so I figured it was okay.
My accident? I have a clay glazed 'mold' that I made in art class years ago that is specifically for quickly setting up lines. I decided to try insufflating some pure caffeine I ordered recently. However, I forgot to clean it out before putting a new substance in the mold. Had I not realized this sooner, I would have snorted 35 milligrams of 2c-e. I hate admitting this due to the irresponsible stereotype with teens and drugs, and I am usually the exception.
I came back to these posts, and wow. So much care for me. I'm not used to that... thanks guys. Seriously. This warm feeling made me go from having a bad trip on a hard dose to having a fun trip on a VERY heroic dose. I am tripping balls still, but I am starting to come down fast, most likely due to the first bump wearing off. Thanks again guys.
 
I'm glad to see things turned around for you, or rather, you turned things around. Its also good to see you kept the alcohol in moderation, but most of all, its good to see you found your friends weed :D

My condolences go out to you and your friend's family, that is sad news.

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on a side note...

i had a similar trip (sniffed 2c-e) at Glade festival in england in 2009 - sept I had major problems with rushing as well - really hard breathing. I decided I wanted to end the trip after a couple of hours but 50-60mg of valium didnt even effect me in the slightest...

this really pissed me off. think it was good that I was actually at a dance festival though, so much good music to try and take my mind off of it.

glad you made it through dude, be more careful in future i guess (easier said than done)
 
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