Help calculating Opana IR IV dosage for seasoned IV heroin user on methadone

[JustThisOnce]

(please move this to BDD. I very much prefer the help of OD members, but feel this question would be too beginner-ish for OD. If you think it would be OK though I would definitely love OD placement.)

Hello good posters of bluelight. I have a question that has definitely been answered in certain ways, but I dont think in the way that I need help with. If I was to do Opana IR IV, I know how I would do it. But the question of how much is the issue here. That is why i am making a personalized thread, because unless there is someone else out there with the exact same tolerance as me, who already posted this same thread, reading the ones already here will not answer my question. Anyway, onto the question.

Start low is always the safe thing to do, but when you deal with a very limited amount and have a tolerance to start with then you need some help calculating. Some info about me: I can easily sniff 80mg of Opana ER and be left wanting more. I take 90mg of methadone a day and have been on it a few years. The last time I used heroin was a while back, when i got off the done for a few days to clear my body from the done so I could get a nice rush, and I banged 4 bags of stuff that was on the level of the infamous TARGET that so many of my NJ dope fiends know and love(d). and I just said...This was what I fucked it all up over? damn. So, underwhelmed with the dope. Before that, I used a few times while on done with the same story--either Target at the height of its quality or other fire bags (7 bag shots of good dope were normal size for me. These days I wouldnt do it, only because I got a fuck-shit-load of a lot to lose if something happened, so I am over cautious even though with what I hear about the D quality these days I could probably bang a bundle at once and not get off.)

Anyways, I would love a little help figuring out my OP IR dose for IV. someone I know said he did 3 and it was a great rush better than dope and he takes between 40 and 90mg of methadone a day also but he always always had a lower tolerance than me---even when we both had half a brick a day habits, he would still always get higher off the same amount of the same dope than me.

So, basically these little IR 10's are kind of a once in a lifetime opportunity for me, I am basically "retired" and dont use shit anymore but wanted to try them since they always been a fantasy in my using days and up til now never had access to em. I really dont want to overdo it and OD and end up losing the most precious thing in my life....But I also dont want to do too little because with the limited amount I have, i could do the first small dose, not get off, and not have enough left over to do enough to actually get off. Please spare me the "start with 5mg" business, because I can take two opana 40s to the dome and still be whistling and cooking breakfast for the family. I have a long IV opiate carreer under my belt and while I might not be bangin' the night away anymore these days, I still have a strong tolerance thanks to the Done and from my occasional dance with the devil my old heroin tolerance hasnt gone anywhere either.

I hope that is enough information for you to be able to help me out here, and I appreciate the time you take to read and answer my post. Like I said--Unless somewhere there is another person on bluelight, with the exact same tolerance as me, who has also posted the exact same question, searching or reading another topic that exists will not help me, and because I want to be extremely cautious I feel better asking instead of guessing and estimating based on others tolerances listed on other Opana IR IV threads. Thanks again, hope you understand.

 

[OverDone]

OD has two versions of opiate conversion charts found HERE and HERE that you may find useful.

I'm going to send this to OD but your thread may get closed or merged

Anonymous --> OD

 

[Hobble]

I can't answer your question completely but I can offer some info that might help a bit. You mentioned that you can snort 80mg Opana ER and be left wanting more. My experience indicates that when snorting large amounts of Opana ER at once, alot of the active ingredient gets trapped in the gel that forms in your nose. I believe this because after sniffing OpanaER, if you wait a little while and have not swallowed the blobs down the back of your throat, and you then drop some plain water into your nose and hold it there by plugging your nose with your fingers, you can often feel considerable amounts of the active ingredient being released again.

Also when you say you can sniff 80mg of OpanaER do you mean you can snort two whole 40mg pills? Because one OpanaER 40mg pill actually wieghs 240mg. So to say you can snort 80mg of OpanaER 40mg pills actually meaans you are snorting 1/3rd of a single 40mg OpanaER pill by wieght, since one of those pills actually weighs 240mg. But I would assume what you really mean is that you can sniff two whole 40mg OpanaER pills, which would actually weigh 480mg including all the inactive ingredients and binders.

But the main point I want to get across is that if you are sniffing two whole 40mg OpanaER pills at once then you very likely are losing a considerable amount of the active ingredient due to how those particular pills tend to gel up in ones nose. I would estimate that you lose 10% to 30% of the active ingredient if you are not dropping water into your nose after the gel forms but this could probably vary greatly depending upon the shape of your nose and your snorting teqnique. Also the larger amount you snort at once, most likely the greater the percent is that you lose so if you try the water technique I would suggest at first reducing your dose by at least 50%.

Also with Opana your tolerance develops very rapidly but if you quit for a while I think it also drops pretty rapidly too. I used to be able to snort half of a 40mg ER at once and when I stopped opiates for 30 days I then sniffed less than 1/3 of one and I was nodding for a couple hours.

Sorry if I can't help you with the rest of your question as I have never done methadone and I have never IV'd.

 

[SUB SHOOTER 2010]

I dont think anyone is gonna be able to give you an exact number that is going to tell you how much opana IR you can get off to. I know i wouldnt waste my time snorting those 40s because just as the previous person said you will lose a lot of it in your nose. You would be better off shooting the 40s through the alcohol extraction method. You wont even be able to fit as many IR 10s in the needle that you will need. And methadone is gonna mess up the high for you also. I know if you dont have any tolerance and you shoot up half of an IR 10 you will be nodding for a while. But your tolerance builds so fast to those IR 10s. Before you know it you can do ten in a day easy. If you really wanna feel them good you should quit everything for a few days(yeah right i know) then just do one of those and you will def get off to it.

 

[IndustrialStrength]

This is a hard question to answer as methadone & tolerance varies greatly.
Even with the info given it's hard to judge an appropriate answer.
As such I can't really give you one.

I just wanted to chime in to correct the above poster.
Oxymorphone is extremely soluble in water. As such you can fit a fuck ton in 1ML.
It just requires proper prep & filtering. I'm guessin they were referring to it's tendency to clog.
But using proper prep technique & proper filtering (preferably micron) you can fit a lot in 1ML.
If I recall correctly it's 1 gram per 4ML. So basically 250mg per ML.

I know tolerance gets high but I doubt anyone would be doing more than 250mg per shot.
Anyways just wanted to point that out to clear up any misconceptions.

 

[SUB SHOOTER 2010]

ok i dont know if you have ever IVed one of those pink tens. But i guarantee you that you will not fit more than two opana 10 mg IRs in one 1 ML syringe, you would be lucky to fit that. Now unless you can find a 5 ML syringe or something like that then what i do is load up a couple syringes and do them right after each other real quick then take the belt off my arm. Those pills are not small by any means really its hard to fit more than 1 in the syringe. When i have managed to get 2 in there it seems like its always clogging on me as im plunging it and i keep having to pull back and plunge, pull back and plunge...You get the picture.

Thats why i told him hes better off shooting some of those 40s. Just make sure you cook them up right. But I've seen people just mix them with 70% alcohol then shoot that up. They say it just burns for a sec then your good, never tried it tho. I dont like the thought of shooting alcohol. I know when you do the alcohol extraction method though its pure opana you are IVing. It looks just like water in the needle. It will give you a rush like you wouldnt believe too.

 

[bnghit3]

here i can give you an example from my own experience with opana IRs. I am on 30-40mg of methadone a day and about a week ago I found some opana IR 5mgs and knowing how good they were suppose to be i jumped on the chance and bought 4. So, I waited about 24 after my last done dose and prepared 7.5mg and honestly just got a slight rush and the high went away very quick. It def left me wanting more, so I snorted the other half of the one not wanting to fuck around prepping 2.5mg. I figured after an 8 hour shift at work and with more time for the done to leave my system that the 10mg I had left would be a nice rush and high, but that also left me wanting more. I did everything right, no heat, rinsed a couple times to make sure i got it all. I really just think the done has wreaked my tolerance. So, I think maybe 15mg might have got me were i wanted to be and if you have double the methadone intake i really dont know.