Help a new Kratom considerer

[OpioidDopioid]

I'm considering purchasing some Kratom right now, but I have a few questions first.

1. If I get ground material (or powdered) does it have to be extracted into a tea like I've heard of so many people doing? Are there any other methods of ingestion (No smoking)?

2. I have a very mild opiate tolerance. By very mild I mean I only have a tolerance because I know what the base feeling is, and what I want more than that baseline. I'm not required to take some obscene amount to feel anything. I usually take about 25mg Hydrocodone or 15-20mg Oxy Codone to get a nice euphoric high. So, my question is, what dosage would you recommend? I'm guessing some where between 6-10g, but I want to be sure I get the sedating opiate effect instead of the stimulating effect.

3. Could you rate the, "opiate experience," of Kratom vs. Hyrdocodone or Oxy Codone? What I mean is, on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate each individually?

4. What strand do you recommend? I'm looking at [VENDOR REMOVED] (Mods remove this if linking isn't allowed), and they offer a multitude of varieties.

5. Leaf, powder, or extract?

6. Any recommendations on what I should avoid doing before and after taking? I've heard people speak of crippling nausea, and I'd like to do whatever possibly to mediate that. Opiates never make me nauseous so I'm hoping that's a sign I won't experience it with Kratom.

Thanks for any advice in advance!

Edit: <no vendor names> doesn't ship to my state. I'm now looking at [VENDOR REMOVED] . Can anyone vouch for this site? (Disregard this)

Also, I'm thinking about getting the capsules of bali kratom. They say they put about .3g per capsule. It would be a bit of pill swallowing, but I'd much prefer that over the tea method. Anybody else ever try capsules?

 

[Mycophile]

I'm considering purchasing some Kratom right now, but I have a few questions first.

1. If I get ground material (or powdered) does it have to be extracted into a tea like I've heard of so many people doing? Are there any other methods of ingestion (No smoking)?

2. I have a very mild opiate tolerance. By very mild I mean I only have a tolerance because I know what the base feeling is, and what I want more than that baseline. I'm not required to take some obscene amount to feel anything. I usually take about 25mg Hydrocodone or 15-20mg Oxy Codone to get a nice euphoric high. So, my question is, what dosage would you recommend? I'm guessing some where between 6-10g, but I want to be sure I get the sedating opiate effect instead of the stimulating effect.

3. Could you rate the, "opiate experience," of Kratom vs. Hyrdocodone or Oxy Codone? What I mean is, on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate each individually?

4. What strand do you recommend? I'm looking at <snip>, and they offer a multitude of varieties.

5. Leaf, powder, or extract?

6. Any recommendations on what I should avoid doing before and after taking? I've heard people speak of crippling nausea, and I'd like to do whatever possibly to mediate that. Opiates never make me nauseous so I'm hoping that's a sign I won't experience it with Kratom.

Thanks for any advice in advance!

Edit: <snip> doesn't ship to my state. I'm now looking at <snip> Can anyone vouch for this site?

Also, I'm thinking about getting the capsules of bali kratom. They say they put about .3g per capsule. It would be a bit of pill swallowing, but I'd much prefer that over the tea method. Anybody else ever try capsules?

1. No, you can swallow the powder by washing it down with water called a "toss n' wash" which is what I do.

2. I'd suggest starting with about 2 1/2 teaspoons or 5 grams or so and see where that gets you and then if that's not enough take more.

3. Kratom has a stimulant effect along with the opioid effect which hydro and oxy don't have. The opioid effect however is not as strong or sedating as hydro or oxy. Kratom also feels cleaner than either to me, at least plain leaf does, not extracts.

4. You can't mention vendors so take that out before a mod does. But if you want a more sedating experience red veins are better than green and green better than white.

Reds are most sedating, green in the middle and white most stimluating.

5. I suggest powder. Leaf is harder to consume and extracts are not always Kratom and may include other things and are more addictive.

6. Just don't drive till you know how it effects you. Other than that just do whatever you think you might enjoy on it. Maybe take some gas X and/or Pepicd AC or naseau I guess.

And if that vendor won't ship to your state, then I am sorry to tell you that most are not going to because you probably live in one of the dumb states that has made it illegal of which I think there are thankfully only 3 or 4.

If so, you are probably going to have a VERY hard time getting your hands on Kratom.

I've never taken pills, some like them though.

 

[OpioidDopioid]

Thanks for all the info. It's much appreciated. Also, I've removed the vendor's from the original post.

I've found a vendor that only states they don't ship to a single state, and it is not the state I reside. My state has made Kratom illegal, but this vendor doesn't make any mention of it. Perhaps it is simply outdated, I can't be sure. I'll be contacting them before placing an order.

 

[Mycophile]

Thanks for all the info. It's much appreciated. Also, I've removed the vendor's from the original post.

I've found a vendor that only states they don't ship to a single state, and it is not the state I reside. My state has made Kratom illegal, but this vendor doesn't make any mention of it. Perhaps it is simply outdated, I can't be sure. I'll be contacting them before placing an order.

You are lucky then.

I guess there are still some that may ship to those states.

I hate drugs laws...ALL of them lol, but there's no need to make Kratom illegal, it's not going to be perfectly safe but nothing is.

Yeah, it is a good idea to contact them first, you don't want to waste your money or get your order confiscated.

 

[OpioidDopioid]

You are lucky then.

I guess there are still some that may ship to those states.

I hate drugs laws...ALL of them lol, but there's no need to make Kratom illegal, it's not going to be perfectly safe but nothing is.

Yeah, it is a good idea to contact them first, you don't want to waste your money or get your order confiscated.

Hopefully I am. As I said, it's possible their FAQ is simply outdated, but this place is exclusively a kratom dealer. So, I'd think they'd keep their information up-to-date.

As do I. I'm an advocate for regulation over criminalization. A large portion of our drug problems stem from drug's being illegal.

I will be doing that. It would be upsetting to place the order just to be told they can't ship to me.