Stimulants HEART PROBLEMS from a heavy amphetamine use/ heavy drinking

[boguslives]

For a couple years I was really into uppers and drinking. I had an adderall script and a pension for heavy daily drinking. This went on for quite some time before I got into heroin and started suboxone maintenance and I started to chill out on the drugs. I started doing heroin because I started to notice some stuff going on with my heart that was definitely not norma and most likely related to my upper intake. I would experience very heavy pounding that would visibly shake my clothing and even my bed sheets when I looked at my chest. I was also experiencing some irregular heart beat and hypertension. I talked to a doctor and he said that it would go away but its been over a year since I've touched the stuff and its still a daily occurrence. I also smoke cigarettes and drink a lot of coffee.

Is it possible to do permanent damage to your heart by the age of 26? does anyone else with similar drug histories have problems like this?

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[Hecticus]

Its a possibility for sure. Have you got heart disease in your family?
Did you tell your doctor it occurs daily? If so what an idiot.
I would drop the Caffeine to see if that helps, also be aware of what you eat. Don't go overboard with sodium or saturated fats. Im a smoker so I wont humour you by telling you to quit.
Most importantly see another doctor asap.

 

[PaulyPointz]

I used to take a lot of adderall then later bathsAlt and rcs and now I have full blown congestive heart failure and had to have a pacemaker installed last week. My doctor said stimulant use is the likely culprit. I'm only 35 and my life feels like it is largely over because of my condition. Be careful with stimulants especially RCs.

 

[boguslives]

theres no history of heart disease in my family and i did tell him it happens daily. the short sightedness of doctors has never ceased to amaze me, im gonna try to see a cardiologist or something.

im really sorry that happened to you man, thanks for sharing im definitely seeing medical attention for this now.

P.S. just out of curiosity, what are RC's?

 

[boguslives]

also could you tell me what your symptoms and usage were like?

 

[A2Z&NBETWEEN]

Adderall... you're fine...now an iv meth and effects on heart issue that I am immediately wondering about as for heroin if ya shot arterial sclerosis or sum shit like that are or concerns

 

[Nom de Plume]

I don't think permanent heart damage would be likely, but I'm far from being an expert on amphetamines' cardiac effects. If it's any consolation or helps to ease your anxiety any, consider my experience with the drug. Beginning at the age of 14 and continuing up to the present moment at the age of 20, I have maintained an average daily consumption of Adderall between 90-210 mg. Not all at once, of course. That would be suicide! But about every 2-3 hours, I will administer a single 30mg tablet of Adderall.

Surely my heart must be wrecked, right? But it's not. My doctor(s) affirm this every 2 months when I'm examined during each of my 6-times-a-year routine checkups.

Aside from a veritable lack of cardiac issues, my doctors claim that my overall health is within normal for my demographic. The only issue physicians seem to find is my under-average BMI index (which is about 16.0, while normal or healthy is between 18.5 to 24.9 according to the National Institute of Health or NIH).

So, there's no reason to be overwrought and nonplussed. I do accede the fact that my good health may be idiosyncratic and that I may not be suitable for basing one's expectations of Adderall's effects on the body. However, there's still no sound evidence that exists to validate your concerns. And when one lacks sufficient evidence, the logically appropriate response would be to either look for that hitherto nonexistent evidence or forbear developing presuppositions and conjecture about what that missing evidence may or may not prove or indicate.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Most of the detrimental effects of amphetamine are found in the brain, not the heart. Doesn't make it healthy for the heart though. ^At that dosage you're doing your brain a number. Only senior citizens are prescribed such high doses. The combination of tobacco and amphetamine is obviously worse for the heart than amphetamine alone. Add in the chain-smoking so often seen with amphetamine/alcohol use and I can see how a problem would develop.

 

[PaulyPointz]

RCs are research chemicals, designer drugs so to speak. I used to go on high dose 100mg plus Addie binges a few times a month and some iv meth all about 7 years ago. I did opiates too for 10 years and was on subs for the last 4 years of that. The last two years of my sub use I shot bathsAlt 2 or three times a week and did mephedrone. Was off all that for about 18 months and just drinking taking Kratom and smoking weed when I started coughing and getting nauseous a lot then I started having trouble breathing at night finally I had a small stroke caused by blood clotting in my heart. They asked me about me drug use first thing lol. My ejection fraction is 25 and I have a pacemaker and take seven unfun pills a day for my condition. Are your ankles swollen, are you out of breath, do you feel nauseous a lot. Those are signs of heart failure. Go to a cardiologist soon and have an echocardiogram done, that will give a definitive diagnosis.

 

[PaulyPointz]

Some people can use high doses of stuff and never have a problem, some can't and they get health problems I'm not saying my case is the norm, it is just what happened to me and no there isn't any heart failure in my family. Go to a cardiologist soon and lay off the caffeine.

 

[burn out]

My guess is you will be ok, but definitely get checked out. I had some heart issues from smoking too much crack, chest pain, shortness of breath. It all went away after I stopped smoking crack.

 

[bluespeed]

Combination of uppers like adderral + booze is extremely damaging to cardiovascular health, that's a well known fact. Even people who don't notice anything strange with their heart while sober usually decrease performance of their heart muscle if they abuse these drugs continually for years. Repairing heart naturally takes a long time and is not always possible.

It IS definitely possible to cause permanent damage to your heart when you're 26. People younger than that had heart attacks from stims (especially meth which is stronger than adderrall but is very similar).
I have no idea from where comes the idea that young body can take everything. Heart is just a muscle and is not designed to work brutally hard for long periods, unless you're in top shape like an athlete. Athletes don't abuse this combo though, if they did they'd either be dead or no longer athletes.
I do have a friend who managed to damage high heart by abusing meth in just 1 year. He's 21 years old. He's slim and appears healthy, except he can't walk stairs into 2nd floor without breathing like a dog.

Enough scaremongering though, it is quite unlikely that you did permanent damage. A lot of people go crazy with stimulants in their youth and after chaning to healthier lifestyle become perfectly healthy. Quitting ciggaretes and minimizing caffeine intake should be your priority in every case, though. Cigs are absolutely terrible for cardiovascular health, IMO comparable to mild everyday meth abuse.
Quitting cigs was the single best thing I did in my life, I can bike twice as long compared to when I smoked, just by quitting cigs.


I speak from rich personal experience that stims+booze combo is very sneaky. The relaxing properties of alcohol perfectly mask the stress caused by stim and make you take even more stims, while increasing actual workload of the heart. Taking stims alone is always less damaging and safer than combining with booze, despite subjectively feeling the opposite.

 

[tunesey]

ask you doc for propranolol they calm you right down.

 

[Mikenmo]

I was going to say that alcohol is very bad for your entire body, specially your brain and heart. There is a list a mile long with how it affects your heart. Combining it with other drugs would only accentuate its effects.