Health Benefits of Tea

[asecin]

actually tea has no benefits. it is the most popular drink in the world with coffee. that as the rest of the world is true and yet people still have huge rise in diseases which tea claims to prevent. "antioxidants" is a buzz word. if u read "free radicals THEORY" ull understand that it is very vague understood wtf "antioxidans" means and what it actually does.
anyway drink whatever u want just dont claim it has health benefits

 

[kayenta]

actually tea has no benefits. it is the most popular drink in the world with coffee. that as the rest of the world is true and yet people still have huge rise in diseases which tea claims to prevent. "antioxidants" is a buzz word. if u read "free radicals THEORY" ull understand that it is very vague understood wtf "antioxidans" means and what it actually does.
anyway drink whatever u want just dont claim it has health benefits

Surely you're not serious? The health benefits of tea are so well-documented that they are beyond dispute.

 

[panic in paradise]

at a general food store i look for:

yogi - egyptian licorice

or koombacha

yogi's sweet mexican chili is mucho bueno.

but as far as antioxidants, go with chocolate or even better blueberries, or even better then that, chocolate covered blueberries.

 

[kayenta]

but as far as antioxidants, go with chocolate

Yes, but dark chocolate only.

 

[asecin]

Surely you're not serious? The health benefits of tea are so well-documented that they are beyond dispute.

i read journals. they claim one thing then they change it few months later then go back to it again and so on. i dont trust what i cannot see as proof personaly ok ? u should be same way and not be a follower. what they say about tea is that it has "antioxidants" which SUPPOSEDLY are good for u. but all the tests they ever do are "in vitro" which is never considered an absolute fact when it comes to humans, but in some studies where they did test it on humans, results were mixed and most the time u cant be sure if its the tea or genes or some other factors playing a role. only way to ever be sure it has any benefits is to make people drink only tea for months and nothing else (which is impossible not only cuz u need food and other drinks but also tannins in tea will deteriorate ur health). anyway i know u fell for most of those articles in magazines but you need to read medical journals like ncbi and other sources.

 

[asecin]

at a general food store i look for:

yogi - egyptian licorice

or koombacha

yogi's sweet mexican chili is mucho bueno.

but as far as antioxidants, go with chocolate or even better blueberries, or even better then that, chocolate covered blueberries.

"antioxidants" is a buzz word, marketing word btw so im not sure what you mean

 

[kayenta]

Asecin, what you are saying is frankly so bizarre that I don't really know where to begin...

I'll start here:

"antioxidants" is a buzz word, marketing word btw so im not sure what you mean

What on earth do you mean? Are you claiming that antioxidants don't exist? By extension, would that imply that you don't believe in the existence of the processes of oxidation and reduction?

Do you think it is sheer coincidence that people from regions of the world with traditionally antioxidant-rich diets (eg the Mediterranean) have longer life-spans?

You have also said 'i dont trust what i cannot see as proof personaly ok?'

Have you ever seen a human brain? Or an atom? Or the planet Neptune? Have you personally ever come up with any proof that those things exist?

No, you have not. So do you doubt their existence too?

 

[asecin]

yes i stand correct. antioxidants is a buzz word with best value in marketing.

and mediteranean diet does not have what people refer to as "antioxidants", it just has low calorie intake(low calorie intake has contributed to longevity) and also i highlight this they dont eat highly processed foods like most of west. absolutely nothing to do with the scam that is "antioxidants".

 

[kayenta]

yes i stand correct. antioxidants is a buzz word with best value in marketing.

and mediteranean diet does not have what people refer to as "antioxidants", it just has low calorie intake(low calorie intake has contributed to longevity) and also i highlight this they dont eat highly processed foods like most of west. absolutely nothing to do with the scam that is "antioxidants".

OK.....

While you are correct in that lower calorie intake = longer lifespan, what on earth makes you think that the Mediterranean diet is significantly lower in calories than any other? I have been to the Mediterranean and can confirm that people there eat entirely normal amounts of food. So the healthiness of the Mediterranean diet is emphatically NOT attributable to low calorie intake. It is however readily attributable to a diet rich in antoxidant-containing food like olive oil and tomatoes.

Secondly, I still fail to understand your denial of the existence of antioxidants. Please explain to me the flaw in this line of reasoning:

- strong oxidising agents such as hydrogen peroxide which are naturally present oxidise and destroy enzymes, DNA and cells.

- this leads to oxidative stress which in the long term increases the risk of cancer, heart problems, neurodegenerative diseases and early death.

- consumption of reductive species known as ANTIOXIDANTS decreases said risks because they are oxidised preferentially.

ERGO, ANTIOXIDANTS ARE GOOD FOR YOU.

To maintain your farcical claim that antioxidants are a 'scam' there must be a flaw somewhere in the above logic. Could you please be so good as to point it out for the benefit of myself and everyone else who is in your opinion wasting their time by consuming antioxidant-rich foods.

 

[asecin]

yeh i consider antioxidants to be vitamins and minerals and not what marketing ploys refer to.
if u have seen in many labels it says "vitamins minerals + antioxidants". that is oxymoron.
if you read scientific studies of polyphenols or other so called "antioxidants" they do not ever show any conclusive reason to believe they are good for you. thats what pisses me off when people keep saying they are good for u. its wrong. they only test huge amounts of it in vitro to show it can inhibit cancer cells but thats specifically isolated forms and huge amounts (which u need to tons of sources containing it and even then its not clear on direct human consumption if anything will work).

about extra virgin olive oil and tea, those are the most famous, most used products in the world. not just meditranian but there are in every american home present and every american uses them yet americans are some of the unhealthiest people and i guess those awesome so called "antioxidants" do not work for them i guess.

 

[asecin]

this is what i had found before and saved. its based on Free Radical Theory (notice it is refered to as Theory) which discusses mostly free radicals but the part i paste is based just on food for short.


"The free radical theory of aging implies that antioxidants such as Vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin E, and Superoxide dismutase will slow the process of aging by preventing free radicals from oxidizing sensitive biological molecules or reducing the formation of free radicals.

Nonetheless, some recent studies tend to show that antioxidant therapy have no effect and can even increase mortality. Proponents of the theory claim that this phenomenon can be explained by hormesis: The addition of antioxidants can lead to a decrease of normal biological response to free radicals and lead to a more sensitive environment to oxidation"

 

[lazygit]

I try to keep my teas caffiene free which can be awkward.

I love decaff capuccino, but drink herbals for the anti oxidant health benfits such as chamomile and decaf green tea.

Not tried that "roobios" stuff, sounds nice...naturally decaff too.

Its annoying when your offered a hot drink and none of its decaff, and they can't understand why! "you do all that other shit, but wont drink caffiene?!"...Yes caffiene doesn't agree with me.

 

[Coolio]

All tea tree leaf tea is good. Black, green, white, oolong, whatever. I prefer it steeped only 1-2 minutes and unsweetened. I've got green tea, green tea with pomegranite, and some black masala chai right now.

I am not a big fan of psychoactive-free tisanes like roiboos, but I'll drink it sometimes.

Yerba mate is good, I need to get a gourd and bombilla and introduce it to others.

 

[toastedpanda]

actually tea has no benefits. it is the most popular drink in the world with coffee. that as the rest of the world is true and yet people still have huge rise in diseases which tea claims to prevent. "antioxidants" is a buzz word. if u read "free radicals THEORY" ull understand that it is very vague understood wtf "antioxidans" means and what it actually does.
anyway drink whatever u want just dont claim it has health benefits

Says the poster who can't find the shift key, or form a readable string of text.

(not trying to make a personal attack, just having fun lol)

 

[Heroin Girl]

Says the poster who can't find the shift key, or form a readable string of text.

(not trying to make a personal attack, just having fun lol)

One would also think that a "journal article" would have correct grammar. 8)

lazygit, you should give rooibos a try. I prefer black tea generally, but there are some nice rooibos blends. It seems to have the most health benefits of any tea, and its strongly flavored enough that you can add other herbs. I use it to cover up the taste of Kava, and it works very well.

 

[Northside]

Darjeeling in the morning, green and white during the day and Sleepytime Extra at night.

I recently had some awesome African Amber tea that was sweet as heck with no sugar added, I might order some online.

The best health benefit I've had is with the Sleepytime Extra, it really works to get me a better night's sleep.

Also , teas are a lot less expensive than coffees.

 

[asecin]

One would also think that a "journal article" would have correct grammar. 8)

lazygit, you should give rooibos a try. I prefer black tea generally, but there are some nice rooibos blends. It seems to have the most health benefits of any tea, and its strongly flavored enough that you can add other herbs. I use it to cover up the taste of Kava, and it works very well.

i had it fucking saved from somewhere, i think wikipedia free radical theory article. anyway cant u read that i said that and i just quoted what i had in my files? maybe since ur a junkie u cannot pay close attention to details. 8)

 

[yucatanboy2]

I started this thread to talk about tea and what people think are the health benefits, not to start a "antioxidants aren't real" thread. Asecin, if you think that your point is worth arguing, I suggest starting a thread about it.

Last night I was tired but couldn't go to sleep and had citrus mint tea mixed with chamomile and almost immediately fell asleep and had a good nights sleep. Mint with chamomile is so relaxing

 

[asecin]

yucantboy exactly and i argued that tea is most overated and the health benefits are not that well proven and overblown by the media.

also i itried chamomile and mint and never could sleep on it again, fail

 

[8ft-Sativa]

Nothing like a cup of gently stimulating tea to take the lazy edge off Cannabis.