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Heading to Vegas for my first roll..

I chose to roll in Vegas before, and I found surroundings (in general, but especially in Vegas) are extremely important. Night clubs on the strip are very roll unfriendly- expensive water, minimal bathrooms, sitting is allowed for bottle service only typically, and there's rarely an outdoor area- when you roll, you will realize how very crucial all those factors are. I would just throw my two cents in to say, make sure you know that the place or places you are going have "rolling friendly" options. Walking the strip and listening to music while sharing some water might be my favorite thing i've done while rolling in Vegas.
 
Yeah I would just be wary about how much you drink while rolling. You can basically polish off a bottle of whatever liquor you like and you won't even feel phased by it... until the next day.
 
when in rome said:
Yeah I would just be wary about how much you drink while rolling. You can basically polish off a bottle of whatever liquor you like and you won't even feel phased by it... until the next day.
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Thats what I hear..I think the majority of drinking will come before the pill, just bc I am getting there so early and I know we will do some gambling and prob go out to dinner b4 we pop.. On that not I will more than likely pop it about an hour after dinner so I highly doubt im hammered, prob just a little buzz going etc. I can DRINK (even when sober etc) so even if I have 10 beers spread throughout the first 4-5 hours im there, as long as I have dinner and drink alotta water I will be fine, most people are drunk by that time but I can hang prettttty good haha
 
i recommend checking out fremont street and downtown. you can google fremont st, it is at the north end of las vegas blvd. you will find much better drink deals there and experience the real vegas.
 
that is where i did my first roll. It was amazing. Check out moon bar, tryst, tao, lavo.
Lots of people go rolling at dre. not my style though.
I stayed at ARIA and it is amazing. Their club is beyond words. Outside the club are walls of water. Pretty amazing.
Moon bar was increadable you are out on a deck over hang about 50 floors up and can see all of vegas. Plus inside the club the roof opens like every 20 minutes. Play boy club downstairs is also great. Ohh vegas.
Tyst at the winn is nice.
Tao and LAVO have some of the best entertainment in the world. Big celeb palce.
 
chickenscratch said:
you're thinking too much kid. Roll with the punches, it's vegas. If you feel like playing blackjack, play some blackjack. If you feel like riding the roller coaster at ny ny, ride the fucking roller coaster. If you feel like blowing an 8 ball while you're rolling, blow the damn 8 ball. If you and your wife want to order up a whoar for a 3some, order up the whoar. It's vegas, have fun - don't think so much.
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agreed!!!!
 
it is true what some others are saying. If you go to vegas with the intention to have fun, no holds barred and are willing to spend a decent amount of money then you will have no problem. Vegas on a budget is hard. ie the water, bottle service ect that people mentioned.

I was rolling balls, and bought bottles (liquor), taxis to each club, played some tables for about 20 min. Even though i won 300 bucks i was actually thinking dam if i sit here im gonna loose out on other things. You will find a lot of people are rolling. Especially if you are an approachable person.
 
Godzilla said:
that is where i did my first roll. It was amazing. Check out moon bar, tryst, tao, lavo.
Lots of people go rolling at dre. not my style though.
I stayed at ARIA and it is amazing. Their club is beyond words. Outside the club are walls of water. Pretty amazing.
Moon bar was increadable you are out on a deck over hang about 50 floors up and can see all of vegas. Plus inside the club the roof opens like every 20 minutes. Play boy club downstairs is also great. Ohh vegas.
Tyst at the winn is nice.
Tao and LAVO have some of the best entertainment in the world. Big celeb palce.
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Godzilla said:
it is true what some others are saying. If you go to vegas with the intention to have fun, no holds barred and are willing to spend a decent amount of money then you will have no problem. Vegas on a budget is hard. ie the water, bottle service ect that people mentioned.

I was rolling balls, and bought bottles (liquor), taxis to each club, played some tables for about 20 min. Even though i won 300 bucks i was actually thinking dam if i sit here im gonna loose out on other things. You will find a lot of people are rolling. Especially if you are an approachable person.
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Hell yea man! We are bringing a decent amount of cash so that shouldn't be a big deal.. Plan on just poppin 1 pill drinkin socially and of course drinking water. Ill be PISSED if it ruins my 2nd day bc I feel like shit lol.. Anyway, I will check all those spots out for sure!!
 
chompy said:
i recommend checking out fremont street and downtown. you can google fremont st, it is at the north end of las vegas blvd. you will find much better drink deals there and experience the real vegas.
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Yea i've been up there b4. My buddy was staying at the golden nugget. Only prob is its just a journey from where we are staying (Mandalay Bay)...but who knows lol
 
mandalay bay also has a roof top bar. I forgot the name.
Golden Nuigget pool is the best on the strip IMO.
I know your gonna say tao beach or mandalay bay beah but that place is way to crowded.
 
Real quick, I keep reading that drinking TOO much water can be bad...I don't think I get that? Not even a concern, just wanna know the logic behind it? Thanks
 
Basically, MDMA stops you from peeing. It has something to do with the branch of the nervous system that controls groin muscles, I think. In any case, if you drink too much water too fast, your kidneys basically back up and can't deal with all of it since you can't excrete it all, so it starts diluting your bloodstream, and that can cause brain hemorrhages. It's actually one of the primary causes of death among MDMA users.

You have to drink a LUDICROUS amount of water for that to happen though. In other words, you have to be paying NO attention whatsoever. Stick with a 20oz bottle of water every hour or hour and a half or so, and you'll be fine.
 
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Pans-Advocate said:
Basically, MDMA stops you from peeing. It has something to do with the branch of the nervous system that controls groin muscles, I think. In any case, if you drink too much water too fast, your kidneys basically back up and can't deal with all of it since you can't excrete it all, so it starts diluting your bloodstream, and that can cause brain hemorrhages. It's actually one of the primary causes of death among MDMA users.

You have to drink a LUDICROUS amount of water for that to happen though. In other words, you have to be paying NO attention whatsoever. Stick with a 20oz bottle of water every hour or hour and a half or so, and you'll be fine.
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does the same thing go for alcohol? all my buddies drink quite a bit while rolling and never have complained..
 
^Don't give yourself alcohol poisoning, other then that I don't think there's much danger from drinking. One issue both with drinking and doing coke while rolling is that they can both kill or dull the empathetic aspect of MDMA which I think is one of the most important aspects of the drug.

For your first roll I'd recomend not doing other drugs except weed before and after the roll, I find that smoking while rolling either makes the roll stronger or clouds it, Sativa strains are ideal for rolling I think. Rolling doesn't fuck you up like alcohol or mushrooms or what have you, in all likelyness you'll be able to function more or less normally while rolling, you might just look and act tweaked out and very, very friendly. On my first roll I smoked weed before and after rolling and I also took mushrooms and LSD (jedi flipping or something is the popular term I think), and it rocked. That being said, I think that it's probably best to get a feel for MDMA before you go drinking and doing lines while rolling. If you do end up doing coke, I'd recomend starting with a lower dose then normal and using it primarily to potentiate the roll instead of to get all coked up.

If you're worried about the crash being bad the day after rolling why don't you just roll on your second day there?
 
boltfan909 said:
Ill be PISSED if it ruins my 2nd day bc I feel like shit lol..
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you're going to feel like shit but it won't matter because when you wake up you're going to walk directly to the pool and get yourself hammered on girly drinks all day.
 
psychomimetic said:
^Don't give yourself alcohol poisoning, other then that I don't think there's much danger from drinking. One issue both with drinking and doing coke while rolling is that they can both kill or dull the empathetic aspect of MDMA which I think is one of the most important aspects of the drug.

For your first roll I'd recomend not doing other drugs except weed before and after the roll, I find that smoking while rolling either makes the roll stronger or clouds it, Sativa strains are ideal for rolling I think. Rolling doesn't fuck you up like alcohol or mushrooms or what have you, in all likelyness you'll be able to function more or less normally while rolling, you might just look and act tweaked out and very, very friendly. On my first roll I smoked weed before and after rolling and I also took mushrooms and LSD (jedi flipping or something is the popular term I think), and it rocked. That being said, I think that it's probably best to get a feel for MDMA before you go drinking and doing lines while rolling. If you do end up doing coke, I'd recomend starting with a lower dose then normal and using it primarily to potentiate the roll instead of to get all coked up.

If you're worried about the crash being bad the day after rolling why don't you just roll on your second day there?
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Thanks for the info!


Well we have to come home the 2nd day and its not like I don't have responsibilities. When I get home (which will be in the evening of Sunday) we will pick up our son who is 10months, and then of course have to take care of him. It would be nice to be single and not have a worry in the world, but I gotta handle biz come Sunday.-- I am thinking I will drink some/smoke some and drop on Friday. Sleeeeeep in sat, go hang out in the pool/eat etc then drink and maybe do a few bumps on Sat night. When I do blow, I do not even do much, just enough to keep me going etc.
 
chompy said:
i recommend checking out fremont street and downtown. you can google fremont st, it is at the north end of las vegas blvd. you will find much better drink deals there and experience the real vegas.
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Agreed. Plus that giant screen, that has to be awesome mid-roll.
 
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