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HBWR seeds / Mushrooms - First Time Combo - Sublime!

Black Octagon

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Hawaian baby woodrose seeds with Mushrooms - sublime!

Ever since we began experimenting with Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds, my friends
and I have been very impressed by the incredible clarity and control we seem to
have over the LSA experience. For this reason, we very quickly became curious
about using it in combination with other substances, notably MDMA and
Psilocybin. Although unable to find any experience reports on Erowid or
elsewhere of people combining LSA with mushrooms, we nonetheless became more and
more curious. Even though this ‘experiment’ was no doubt risky given the lack of
available information about this combination on the internet, what ensued was an
experience so enlightening and ‘right’ that I struggle to do it justice with
words alone. Read on.

It all happened about a year ago. A friend and I prepared 8 seeds each by scraping the outer coating of fur from them to minimize the nausea we usually feel in the first two hours of an LSA trip. We had also picked 10 average-sized mushrooms (Golden Caps) during the two previous days, all of which were very fresh and healthy (and kept so via
refrigeration). These mushrooms were split evenly between us, having been
cleaned and diced.

T (2:30pm) – We ingested the seeds in my friend’s living room with a glass of
water each. For the next hour and a half we relaxed on the couches, listening to
DJ Sasha’s new album (Involver) and playing chess. During this time we were very
relaxed but became increasingly lethargic and even slow-witted at chess. We also
experienced some slight nausea and gas, which always happens when we take LSA.

T + 1.5 (4:00pm) – I began to feel less nauseous and increasingly tactile and
tripped out. I experienced some minor hallucinations when looking at the carpet
(which seemed to ‘breath’ with life) and when looking at pictures on the walls.
My friend’s dog (Ollie), who had been with us the whole time and who had been
quite playful and energetic, seemed to pick up on our vibe and joined us in
lying down on the floor and dozed off! This was very cool and allowed us to
relax even more into the experience, which by this time was increasingly
enjoyable yet still quite mild.

T + 2 (4:30pm) We left the house to go for a walk and watch the sunset at the
reserve behind the house. I don’t usually feel like walking on LSA but I
actually found it to be quite fun this time. My head felt very warm as we slowly
floated across the grass towards our favourite lookout. We were becoming
increasingly thoughtful and talkative, reminiscing about the last time we were
at this spot. It was clearly going to be a nice evening, with a very clear but
warm sky, which is rare for an Australian winter’s night. As the sun began to
disappear over the horizon, I took a deep breath, thought “here goes nothing”
and pulled the container of mushrooms out of my backpack...

T + 3 (5:30pm) It was a little bit difficult to stomach the mushrooms, even
though we only had five each (which under normal circumstances would only give
rise to a mild trip). I never feel like eating on LSA, and the nausea was
not completely gone yet. We thought we would probably vomit at some point during
the night, but we never did. Within 10 minutes we felt much better, with
significantly more energy and a desire to go exploring. We walked down a canyon
to sit amongst some flat rocks in the middle of a stream where we could listen
to the water, animals, wind and trains in the distance. As we approached the
canyon my mindset rapidly changed from the dream-like buzz of the LSA to one
that was extremely awake and euphoric. This was a recognizable ‘come up’ of
mushrooms, but I felt that the LSA made the come up much more smooth and tactile
than usual (that is, without the usual feelings of slight anxiety and
confusion). I was experiencing all the usual brilliance of the mushrooms, only
much stronger and with much more clarity. My only worry was that this was quite
powerful for so few mushrooms, and I didn’t know how far this would go.

T + 4 (6:30pm) My memory of this is a little hazy, but for a good while we lay
on the rocks amidst the stream, silently contemplating the incredible power and
life that is the natural environment. The water and frogs seemed to be
communicating about something very meaningful. The visual effect of the dark
trees silhouetted against the bright and colourful (pink) night sky became increasingly
pronounced and beautiful, and I found myself gazing at it in wonder for many
minutes. We gradually emerged from our meditations and became increasingly
talkative. As it dawned on us that this experiment was turning into a real
success, we became increasingly excited and giggly, with warm rushes of energy
and adrenaline not unlike the MDMA experience. I had the constant feeling that
‘five minutes ago’ was too intense and wonderful to put into words, but also
that the LSA had let me appreciate each facet of it with extreme clarity and
calmness. The synergy was incredible.

T + 4.5 (7:00pm) We walked up towards the train tracks and lay down next to
them, looking at the sky. Very quickly we began peaking as the stars suddenly
started to dance and change colour. We began to think and talk about life and
how lucky we were to be having this experience. We also became increasingly
articulate in discussing issues of global politics, particularly environmental
ones, despite being ‘off our chops’. I had closed-eye visuals unlike any others
that I’d experienced before. I should point out that even when taking
psychedelics such as mushrooms, I usually have far fewer and far less intense
visuals than my friends (I tend to be geared more towards aural stimuli). But
these visuals were incredibly vivid, colourful and ‘fast’, with lots of fractals
and spinning serpents. Again, I had the subconscious inkling that this would
normally be too much to handle, but that the LSA empowered me to go with it.

T + 5.5 (8:00pm) After a good hour of intense excitement and wonder we finally began to calm down. The earlier LSA-induced nausea had subsided and we became incredibly hungry, not least because we felt the need to indulge all our senses. We went to a party at a friend’s house where a Thai feast ensued, as well as considerable conversation and music. By this time we were very much coherent, which was odd because by this time we would usually be in the throes of an LSA peak. However, this did not bother us, for we had a strong ‘afterglow’ of the previous couple of hours. So we proceeded to get very drunk for the rest of the evening, with merely a light alcohol hangover the next morning.

All in all, we remembered the experience very well and felt rejuvenated for about a week afterwards. I would definitely recommend this combination to anyone with the basic grounding in psilocybin who wants to explore further combinations. I am yet to try the MDMA&Psylocybin “hippy flip” combo, yet I instinctively feel that LSA would greatly potentiate and complement the experience of both substances.
 
Man, that sounds like a really nice experience, but I don't think I could ever stomach that; HBW alone makes me vomit pretty consistently.

I'm surprised that the LSA took away the mushroom come-up anxiety, I would have guessed it would have made it much worse. Maybe it's because you were already tripping, so the transition between sobriety and shroomin' wasn't as far of a bridge.
 
Yeah, i have been considering a combo like this for a long time... about how big would your shroom doses have been had they been dried?
 
The nausea side puts me off LSA i found it turned my trip into a nightmare although i can't use this excuse any more as bluedolphin has experimented with sublingual administration which produced effect; sounds like a good combo and it would be cool to combine with mdma probably.

Thanks for the report.
 
The shroom dosage wouldn't have been more than 2 dry grams, which is very mild. But yeah, the LSA seemed to potentiate it. It felt like I'd taken about 3.5 grams, but was as easy to handle as 2.

Very good combo, can't wait to try it again, this time with a pinch of MDMA or twelve!
 
i'm glad the combo was right on, and how lucky you are to have such nice outdoor settings to trip with....i have not been able to really be relaxed and free with nature while tripping. I feel a bit burnt out always tripping around technology.
thank you for the nice report!
 
Re: Hawaian baby woodrose seeds with Mushrooms - sublime!

Black Octagon said:
During this time we were very relaxed but became increasingly lethargic and even slow-witted at chess. We also experienced some slight nausea and gas, which always happens when we take LSA.

Funny, I would have attributed that to the mushrooms moreso :)
 
Re: Re: Hawaian baby woodrose seeds with Mushrooms - sublime!

Mean Girl said:
Funny, I would have attributed that to the mushrooms moreso :)

Yeah I know what you mean, but this was still early on in the trip. We didn't take the mushrooms till later on.

Though come to think of it, lethargy isn't something I'd automatically associate with mushrooms. Usually when I take them, they hit me in 5-10 minutes and I feel incredible bursts of energy churning up from within. Many of my friends feel the same way, and have likened it to having a fountain of energy within your mid-section that keeps increasing in pressure and momentum (in a good way). Funny how different people react differently.
 
^weird.
as far as psychedelics go, i find LSA to be the most lethargic/trancing and mushrooms to be number two, right behind the seeds. most other pyches keep me movin!
 
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