So tonight i consumed 10 HBWR seeds after taking 6 exactly 7 days ago and having a wonderful experience, so the problem is this time i vomited about 30-50 minutes after ingestion. So i've heard that the mucus membrane in your mouth is what actually absorbs the lsa therefore i made sure to chew it up and let it sit in my mouth a bit as much as possible, but i've also heard vomiting can lose some of the potency of the trip, is this the case? Should i expect to trip still or not?
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acidclouds
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Like any other drug the LSA can be absorbed sublingually and also by your stomach and intestines. I just chew the seeds and swallow straight away so very little mouth absorbtion and have tripped really really hard on HBWR.
Again like any drug vomiting 30 mins after will reduce the effects as it would take longer than that for your body to fully absorb the LSA. How much of a difference it will make is very hard to say tho.
I try my best not to vomit for at least 2 hours.
Again like any drug vomiting 30 mins after will reduce the effects as it would take longer than that for your body to fully absorb the LSA. How much of a difference it will make is very hard to say tho.
I try my best not to vomit for at least 2 hours.
acidclouds
Bluelighter
That's good to hear. Not eating for as long as possible before hand (preferably like 24 hours) is really important with lessening nausea and increasing the effects with HBWR in my experience. Also not drinking much liquid a few hours either side of dosing so your stomach is as empty as possible.
Have a great trip
Have a great trip
jaurk
Bluelighter
If I were you I'd just do the LSA extraction.
well bakka i tried my first hbwr experience a few years ago it was like id had acid brilliant for at least 6 hours never tried any again for a while after but when i did it felt like my veins were closing up in my body real severe vasoconstriction so one thing i say too u is quit while your ahead i never have touched it since get acid if u can get it i never had any problems with that but each too there own like they say
foolsgold
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love them but even thinking about taking them brings the taste back into my mouth my body just doesnt like them one bit . i ate 40 for my birthday a few years ago ground them up fluff and all necked them felt like i was going to die for about 10minutes after then gipped up in the garden everything after that is a wonderfull blur . they also mix really well with stims and benzofury may try some with some mxe before it gets banned
foolsgold
Bluelighter
if that's at me i don't know what sort they were i found i have a much better trip if i'm sick . most people take the sulphur coating off but i find it gives you a much better trip shame there so hard on the insides
yucatanboy2
Bluelighter
Everytime i did HBWR (back in college i did it probably 6-8 times), I threw up within the first hour. I always had a pretty powerful experience. I think that puking is genenerally part of the deal you get with HBWR. Its not a coating that can be removed, its the cyanoglycosides that are in the seeds. At 30-50 minutes you will still trip, but i think the longer you can hold off on puking, the more potent your experience will be. Often I would have strong effects by the time I threw up (its not pleasant to throw up while tripping, but thats the way it goes). I wouldn't be seeing colors or moving hallucinations, but I would have all sorts of body effects, things would look sharp or blurry, lights would seem brighter and have coronas or flares coming off of them.
acidclouds
Bluelighter
We should point out for people who haven't tried them that 40 is a potentially huge overdose. Erowid lists 12+ as the highest trip category 'heavy' and the sickness and vasoconstriction they can cause could easily see a person in hospital from that many. I have personally found 14 of the seeds I get in Australia to be an extremely strong trip.
Okami
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I did 15 my first time and it was an extremely strong trip, not ego breaking, but definitely ego redefining. I then got a different batch of seeds. Tried with 5 then 10, then 15 finally with 20. Still tripped but not nearly as much, and the 20 one was not at all pleasant, but still I wasn't that high.
foolsgold
Bluelighter
believe me im glad i puked i had a sky high tolerance at the time to tho , but 25 seeds is my normal trip dose, do you lot fine that the trip is more in line with e than lsd ?
Okami
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Not at all like either, but more like lsd than e by quite a bit. I get really weird thought patterns, and by itself its not very interesting or fun. Combine it with medium amounts of cannabis. That's where it starts getting surreal as fuck. Every normal thing seems really weird in a this is an odd scene from a movie kind of way.
acidclouds
Bluelighter
My latest and strongest trip on HBWR (14 seeds) was much closer to LSD with the psychedelic thoughts and full-blown open and closed eye visuals but having said that I know what you mean when comparing it to mdma because the euphoria especially for the first few hours was ridiculous.
foolsgold
Bluelighter
i found the head space much closer to e than lsd strange maybe its just i was use to some really strong head wreaking acid when i was younger. damn it i'm going to have to order some now last lot i had i chucked out because my body just could not take the hammer any more . still feel ill just thinking of that horrid taste cant escape it even when you grind them up . anyone else after a lot of use say a week or 2 later bit their nails and found that minging taste ? plus i'm sure they aint to go for the old gut