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HBW, Have Tripped LSA Many Many Times, Just has been years....LSA!!!!

ANewKindOfArmy

ANewKindOfArmy

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Ok, I need to have a couple things up here before i decide upon, this or not, Or what M.O.A's (Method of Administration) i should use to Administer LSA if soo... Ok so i do have a Generalized Anxiety Disorder,Panic Disorder And Manic Depression. I always have. I know many will read these 3 things and say NO! immediately so before you say that read on. Now, i was medicated when i used to eat Heavenly Blue Morning Glorys first time 150 and as i got used to them Up to 350-400 seeds fresh seeds. Same with the flying saucers strain which seemed to cause more stomach problems not just in me but all of my trippin buddies. Now I have eaten low dose HBW's because i honestly didn't trust them because i was warned of them being way way potent went to erowid and did try break through dose, and Above but still low dose this was when i was trippin constantly. Now my question is after i went through my couple year Any Psychedelic/Dissociative i could get my hands on phase instead of using them for true mind expansion or fun recreationally what im trying to say i abused them like an idiot. I then found Opiates And Opioids and stopped tripping but i was lucky enough to find clean enough DMT to IV it and i ALWAYS wanted to find DMT during my psychedelic days so when it came able for me to acquire it, of course i was going to try it( i had a heavy IV H habit (a bundle to 2 bundles (28 bags) when i first got my inheritance then at the end when i was broke getting by any means it was a bundle a day 14bags) so basically i didn't care about anything but getting right, then to get high which i did for years but that's besides the point) Now i've been clean off of opiates/opioids other than my BUPE for the last 3 years. Now i am Rx'ed Klonopin(Clonazepam) 2mg 2 times Daily and Alprazolam(xanax) 1mg as needed along with Suboxone 8 mgs Daily. Now would it be ok for a person with my meds to try these very nice Hawian Babys i was given? When it came to morning glory, we always would count em out, scrub them with gold dial because we were told alot of seed companys put something on them to make you sick, would let them dry and then would crush them as best as possible and at first just took the 2 double shots of that powder and if anyone has done this you know how horrible it is not just how HARD they are to get to powder but that taste8(, so i and friends started pouring the crushed/powderized seeds into blobs of peanut butter and swallowing the blobs after being told the LSA would actually bind well with the fats of the peanut butter. Now, i've read of 100% vodka extractions, to basically you crush the Seed of choice this one being 6-9 HBW's to powder pouring it into the shot or double of vodka and letting it sit and then just taking the shot it that way. Now i know commonly people will get that horrible stomach ache and stuff i have had it a bunch of times to where it actually made my trip bad for almost the whole thing, too bad the straight up crazy hallucinations are usually negative when you dont want them but it happens. Now if anyone has any idea's on how i could make this better and i do have an IRON stomach but if i could do something to try and stop this as much as possible even though i KNOW LSA itself can cause Nausea,Vomiting ETC, but it seems like it happened sometimes and other times it didn't which made us wonder. Any ones Tips, on preparations of the HBW's or easy extractions or just eating them how we used to or what would be greatly appreciated, and if some people care enough to say what they think about a person like myself doing LSA after having these disorders and after all this time ( have not tripped on LSA in over 6 years) let me know and do know that if something went bad, i COULD easily eat a coupe xanax and calm down quickly,
Thank you guys in advance, Yous never let me down and sorry for the way i seem to go on and on with something i could say in a sentence but sometimes it seems better to just put everything out there you know?
Thanks again,

- B
 
In my experience it's not the nausea that's so bad. It's the cramps. stomach and legs mostly.

Nausea you could try to reduce with some diphenhydramine or dramamine. For cramps I have no idea.

By the way I've never found any advantage in preparation over just chewing them straight up. Morning glory or HBWR. I think it's just more effective to chew them, you'll get side effects either way.
 
Yeah, I'm Sorry Fella's and Girls. I do have a problem with typing on and on and forget to separate into paragraphs it probably made it a terrible read so from here on i will say how i should, im sorry. Now..

Ok well, Yes i agree with the one poster, i always would just wash em in Gold Dial to clean em, and wait for them to dry out ( this was with morning glorys) Then crush em to powder, either put em in a couple shot glass's and take the shot of them, or would put the crushed powder or as smashed as possible into Peanut butter blobs and swallow to that to try to get that taste to go away and was told it may help the trip about alkaloids binding to the fats ( this was from my teacher at school, i figured it was worth a shot worst comes to worst atleast i wouldnt have to taste the terrible taste). Now, they worked both way's. So i since im using Hawian Babies, i mine as well just crush the 8-9 since im trying to get a moderate to Strong trip from them and just wash em with the Gold Dial, Crush em swallow em since it isn't so many or do ya guys think maybe i should put a lil lemmon juice or something else in my mouth to make it a pulp and let it sit under my tongue sublingually for say 20mins, half hour then swallow em? or spit em out or just straight up swallow them?

Another thing is with these disorder's i have, i have tripped on LSA and this is in no way an exageration when i was younger i was reckless and actually abused psychedelics, and would eat some kind of Psychedelic,RC,or Dissociative atleast 3-4 days a week, ( young and dumb) LSA alone i must have tripped on it at the very least 35 + times most likely ALOT more so im not new to tripping or to LSA just has been such a long time( suprised i never got ergot poisoning) Again agreeing with the poster, i would sometimes get NO stomach or leg discomfort at all, other times a buddy of mine and my self took a high dose of " The FLYING SAUCER" Morning Glories (still Ipomoea strain so it had LSA we were told they were actually more potent we didnt notice a difference),and got the stomach ache really really bad along with the inner thigh pain i should have kept to the heavenly blues because i never had a problem with those other than the occasional cramping in the inner thighs and sometimes the stomach ache, but with the Saucers it was to the point where we didn't want to move because it hurt very bad but did pass, same night we both had BAD BAD stomach aches. No vomiting but with that you wish you could just puke and get it over with because it was so uncomfortable. So from there on we only stayed with the Heavenly blues or HBW's. I am curious about Pearly gates morning glory, and Is it sleep grass i forget, i think it's sleepy grass contains LSA in a nice dose.

Now, Having these mental disorders i do have, if things were to go ugly, i was thinking about carrying a Benzo with me, I'm Rx'ed Klonopin 2 times daily, and Xanax as Needed, but before i was put onto those i was Rx'ed Valium 5mg and Ativan but i no longer have any Ativan. So i was thinking about carrying with my Xanax, Since if Setting Change, Music Change, or any of the other stop trip from going further downhill feeling from going away and it got the point of the trip going ugly i was going to take It since it does work very fast and rids my panic very very fast. but i do have Klonopin,Xanax,Valium and Temazepam here if there is a better benzo to take that wouldn't take away from the trip just the panic.

In the past when i started tripping bad id wait it out or this one time( 1/4 Ecuadorian P. Cubensis Mushrooms) i didn't have a benzo on me and no way of getting home as we were in the middle of the woods far from my house, i did drink multiple shots of Jack and Jameson since Alcohol effects to Gaba receptor i figured it would help and it DID, but it took away the insight feel and just kinda left me with the Visual aspect of the trip. I don't want that to happen if i had to take a benzo, but if theirs no way around it, i would just as i was saying i'd rather still have my trip all the way just have that panic go away. Any advice on that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you guys in advance, you guys NEVER let me down so again,

Thank yous in advance and sorry about the Novel before, i hope this is a little better and easier for ya's to read,
-B
 
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Also If anyone is interested i could do a trip report, either Hour by hour, or the day after. I do notice trip reports are better hour by hour or period of time or period of time... Idea came to me incase someone else had similar situations with mental illness like Generalized anxiety disorder ( G A D ) Panic Disorder, Or Depression problems, mine being manic depression and tripping, a report with a moderate/strong dose would possibly help for harm reduction, if someone were to have a similar idea and read it, may change their mind or may make someone more calm... Let Me Know.

- B
 
It kinda sounds like you shouldn't be tripping with those anxiety disorders and whatever else you got going on. That's probably why not too many people are jumping in here offering you tripping advice.

You're already taking a lot of benzos so I would think it prudent to not introduce situations into your life which require you to take even more benzos and acquire a greater tolerance. Like tripping.

Maybe work your way up with 75 or 100 Morning Glory Seeds to start, that shouldn't bug you out too much. Who knows, maybe a low dose will give you everything you're after.
 
I hear ya Blue Dolphin, just the thing is i had tripped in the past many times under the same conditions, just was asking about maybe a better way of taking it or whatever i hear ya about starting slow, so i have decided on taking a lower dose than first thought about but the Benzo idea was JUST IN CASE ya know. I just wanted to get the best out of it rather than it being negative ya know when a trip goes well and the insightfulness comes, you wake up feeling like you just got a life shower hah, but when its negative it feels as if you did the opposite which is why like i said maybe i should Hold a benzo with me in case but my post was more asking if taking them how i used too or the newer sublingual idea and then swallowing them, or spitting them out was better because i dont know much about holding HBWs under my tongue as i've never done it, i always crushed em and swallowed em or put em in peanut butter like i said. Thank you and i do understand what you are saying once again, just wanted to get an answer to the sublingual or other options or if my old method was best ya know?
Thanks again and Be safe,
- B
 
TruffulaTree said:
^agreed. dude just chew them to a pulp in your mouth and swallow. I do that and get great effects.
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Or do what I did, make a MG sammich =D

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hahah i actually did this on many a times. Then got lazy and hated getting the peanut butter with the chunks stuck in my teeth haha. I started just either getting a blob, fill it with as much of hte crushed seeds as possible and swallowing it, or just taking shots of the pure crushed seeds. Funny my sandwhiches looked just like this. I am still a little weird about not washing them though even though they are HBWS this time, at the same time i'd always add some extra incase it took away from the Alkaloids ( washed before crushing and swallowing) Debate on this?

Thanks again, As i said yous never let me down very much appreciated, it's trippin weather in philadelphia :)
- B
 
Yeah, i stopped doing it because of that sand like feeling, then it being stuck in your teeth and shit. Especially with the higher doses like 350+, basically i would say fuck it and just crush em best as i could to try and get em to powder, then just take the multiple shot glasses of it lol
 
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