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Have You Gone From Opiate Pills to Heroin?

Have you gone from opiates in pill form to heroin?

  • Yes

    Votes: 173 49.4%

  • No

    Votes: 177 50.6%
  • Total voters
    350
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thanks for the votes/posts.

bump?

A shit ton of BLers do opiates, come on now, vote ;) Don't forget you can vote no.

Pesky misleading title...
 
No.

I stick to hydrocodone and codeine and won't even try Oxy for fear of addiction, which negates any positives in my mind. The risk-to-benefit ratio of something as strong as Oxy, morphine, or heroin is simply too great--and that's not a stigma, it's just common sense for anyone who is educated on what leads to addiction and what it can do to one's life. Like one poster said above, not knowing what substance you're taking and its implications is one thing, but knowing the possible hell addiction can send you to and doing it anyway seems senseless.

That's not to bash anyone here for their choice of drug, as we all have our reasons for doing them in the first place, but when I hear the word "heroin", images of a happy, productive life are not conjured in my mind. While it's completely possible to successfully manage a recreational habit on such drugs, those that can do it for any significant amount of time are few and far between. And that's coming from someone who totally rejects what people like Dr. Drew have to say about "using", "triggers", "rehab" and the whole paradigm and resulting hypervigilance about addiction, which is a relatively new concept that only dates to the early '70s.
 
Nope. I've done heaps and heaps and heaps of prescription pills over the last couple years, but only heroin twice. The shit was basically too strong for me. Call me a pussy, but I dont think blacking out for 6 hours is all that fun. One line of heroin was probably the equivalent to sniffing like two 80s at once or something, I don't even know. The first time I did it, I felt really high for a min, then I threw up, then I woke up like 6 hours later at my office with my finger stuck on the 'F' key like "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF" and drooling all over myself. Girl sitting at the station next to me was like "WTF!?!?" The second bag I did, I think the next day, I dont even remember.

All in all, I like to get high, I dont necessarily like to nod that hard. I mean, I do, but usually I remember most of what I did while I was nodding. I dont like being somewhere, sniffing a line, then waking up somewhere not knowing how I got there.

Oxycodone FTW!
 
The shit was basically too strong for me. Call me a pussy, but I dont think blacking out for 6 hours is all that fun.
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It certainly isn't but od'ing isn't singular to heroin but can happen on basically every opiate, even codeine if your tolerance is low enough.

In a normal dose I even find heroin to be less sedative than morphine. Swim produced some heroin from morphine pills but didn't continue to do that because he liked the cozy effect of the morphine more.

So the reason why I went from rx opiates and poppy pods to heroin was because it was cheaper than pills and with a high tolerance you can't really use pods anymore.
 
No! In fact, it was more a vice versa thing.

I went from morphine ampoules to heroin and then from shot heroin to pills of different opiates/opioids often shot by me too...
 
Everybody that I know that grew a large enough pill habit (say 10+ norcos or an 80mg OC just to feel normal) eventually moved on to black tar.

Its much cheaper, and the high is way better (IMO). If you can get past the stigma, its worth it. Around here, for $30, you could get an 80mg OC or you could get a gram of tar (at least those are the prices in my circle). The tar is going to last you 2-3 times longer than the pill. Or about 5 times longer if you IV.

Which would you choose?
Its simple crackonomics, man!
 
I started out using pills before getting into heroin. The first opiate that I ever took was a Hydrocodone 7.5/750 generic tab that my sister gave me when I was 15. Got into the harder stuff around 17 years old (OxyContin, Fentanyl) and a couple years later I started using Heroin, mostly because it was so much cheaper than my daily OxyContin habit. Unlike most, I FIRST started shooting but ended up smoking it because it was much more convenient (But more expensive). We don't have brown or white in Arizona, just tar.

Spent a few years in MMT and now tapering off Suboxone.
 
I started with my dad's tramadol. Discovered oxycontin, vicodin, tylenol 3, and kratom. Believe it or not, I had a worse problem with tramadol and kratom than anything besides heroin. Then fentanyl and heroin, intranasally. Started shooting heroin, shot oxy a few times as well. Chipped for a month, then found myself spending anywhere from $50 to $200 (usd) on boy per day... Banging from 1 to 3 grams a day, usually in two or three shots. On my days off of work, I mainlined upwards of 10 times per 24 hour period. Half a year later, I made the jump to suboxone, and I am about a month clean. However, I've been on suboxone for like 4 or 5 months... I relapsed maybe 5 times and finally was able to say "no" for good after my best friend and roommate overdosed and died. RIP Creston! sending you my love
 
I started off with thc, then lsd, and found my moms bottle of pills lying around the house. Oxycodone 5 mg. I was in high school then, 2nd year. I got wasted on 2 of those, and that was it for a few years, stuck to thc, alcohol, and lsd and mushrooms. My senior year I tried coke, which was alright. Didnt get too strung out right away. About a year after I graduated, my best friends mom was prescribed oxy's. Turned em down my whole senior year, then my friend I went to college with gave me 2 free 40's and I fell in love. I had a bunch of money at the time so I was buying oxy's everyday, eventually started buying whole scripts. Finally, a friend had a dart and I played my first game. That was that for another year or so. But it was shortly after that I started snorting H. I snorted for a year or two, then reached a depressing mark in my life and my girlfriend reintroduced me to the dart. After that it was over. Have been fighting addiction for four or five years now. Had the naltrexone implant, that worked while it was in, but had to have appendix removed and that was removed as well. Went back to it, started with tabs, then oxys, then went to the methadone clinic(again). The clinic refused to give me take homes to take to the beach for my vacation(Cause my counselor was very unhelpful and held the drug over my head as a form of control, even though I had clean urine tests), so I took a script of 120 tab 10's and tried kicking a year and ahalf long 80 mg/day methadone habit. It wasnt a very fun vacation to say the least. And the reason I ddin't want to guest dose at another clinic is because I didn't have a way to the guest clinic other than my parents, and they hate methadone as a treatment and they thought I was clean so I just tried to cold turkey it. When I got back from the beach, I went straight to oxy's, shortly followed by H. Snorted for a few months, then went back to shooting. That went on for another 7 or 8 months, then I tried suboxone. Didnt work at all. Actually, it worked for about a month, then it didn't satisfy the craving anymore, just the sickness. So I would quit taking it and shoot dope then go back to it, constantly being dope sick and in withdraw everytime I switched back to Suboxone. Finally I quit suboxone, shot dope for another month or 2, then quit everything cold turkey. I told my roommate, who had recently been hospitalized, that I hadbeen clean for a week. When he came back, there is no way I cuold be around anything, and if he brought stuff around or wanted me to get him stuff I was going to the methadone clinic cause I cant handle being around it. Well, when he came back, after a week of me being clean, he wanted H. So i got it for him, shot some up with him, then went to the clinic two days later. All of this started about 8 years ago, and this is the story of the last 8 years, minus me being a complete druggy at years 3-5, doing coke, meth, xtc, molly, pcp, benzos, L and Boomers, but when it was all said and done, I was just an opiate person, and have had no trouble not going back to anything but opiates. It is my demon. I read somewhere that once someone is addicted to heroin they either spend their whole life finding their next fix or their whole life fighting their addiction, and I agree whole heartedly with it.

If anyone actually read all that, I will be amazed. But that is my drug history. Starting when I was about 16 and I am now around 28.
 
Edit: ^^^ I shot heroin for 2 years. I've honestly no desire to ever use that shit again.


Back during my opiate days I didn't do one or the other exclusively.

My first opiate was an rx pill and I'd do them *only* if there was no dope around. The thing is, that first rx pill didn't really get me, "hooked". I stopped doing opiates altogether and went on a huge cocaine bender. It was from there that I started eating Fentanyl patches, then snorting heroin, and finally shooting it, up until I quit. Fucking vile habit.
 
I only have access to Tramadol daily since I got it prescribed, but tried OxyContin twice and Morphine once and the Morphine was a great high (insufflated) so I am pretty much an opiate newbie yet. Things can change very quickly though since my current painkillers don't do the job for me anymore and I should move up the opiate ladder pretty soon.

I voted No since I know that I have an addictive personality and liked the morphine way too much, so I can't imagine the Heroin rush. Now I am trying to stay as far away from it as possible. One good thing though is that my health insurance covers the costs of painkillers so the price thing is not a problem over here. Heroin is pretty expensive around here as well so it's an easy choice between 1 gram of H and 15-25 grams of great A quality weed and a nice case of beer :)

I'm more of a stimulant person though, so speed and coke are on my "drugs to try once list". No meth since the addictive personality again :\

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Peace o/
 
I'm in the started on pills then tried heroin but not exclusively camp. I find heroin had a much bigger effect on my life than oxy does, i can pretty much function normally with oxy but H was getting out of hand very quickly in my case. I prefer H tbh but its expensive considering i can get a montsh worth of oxy for very little money from the doctor and H is loads mre money
 
Only once, years ago when I switched jobs and cities and had a grace period for insurance and no physician. I switched right back once I had my medical infrastructure back in place.
 
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