Have I Lost My Friend?

[muie]

A very dear and close friend went overseas for a few years; he was doing speedballs (meth & h). He's back in the country and for the past 2 months he hasn't used to anybody's knowledge. Currently he's in a mental institution where he's given benzos and anti psychotics due to paranoic/pschizophrenic tendencies. I haven't been able to speak to him but i've know through his parents that he insists there are microchips/parabolic/electromagnetic implants in his head monitoring him, he hears voices, and while this may be part of meth induced psychosis this has persisted for about 2-3 months like I've said always with the same focus on these implants in his head. He's in his mid 20's and I've done drugs with him from weed to heroin and everything in between. One night we had over 500mg (easily) - 800mg MDMA per person and I saw him in delerium and there was a period of a few hours where he didn't make sense at all and vividly believed in obscene/ridiculous illusions. I've seen him act a bit odd sometimes in extreme circumstances like that massive MDMA sesssion for example and other friends of ours have said they felt there was something 'off' with him but nobody could tell what b/c he was NEVER like this. Odd or not, when sober he's very intelligent (university type) and very articulate (used to be).

Could the meth have done permanent brain damage?
Is there any kind of treatment for post-meth abuse/damage?

Is there any chance that I will ever see my friend again (the way I know him)?

Any help is appreciated, thanks!

 

[Maya]

Hi Mule, it is really sad to see some people fall into addiction and I feel your concern and you probably miss your friend. Drugs affect people differently, and it is possible that the meth or mdma or both might have brought up an underlying mental issue. How long have both of you been doing drugs? Did he abuse drugs while he was away overseas? If he is getting treated in a mental institution, only time and medication can bring him back to the norm but this will also depend on how his mental capacity reacts to the drugs. To shortly answer your question, you may or you may not but only time will tell.

 

[mrflowers00]

drug induced psychosis can go one of two ways one the person is taken away from the drugs that caused it and gradually starts to come out of the paranoia/schizo type of thought patterns or two they are taken away from the drugs that caused it but only caused it because they had those traits from the get go and the drugs brought those traits out of dormancy

 

[Ozekat]

Your friend, man that is rough.....I really feel for both of you.

Sometimes I sincerely believe that people choose to live in their own world, even knowingly so, hopefully you being around him will be beneficial but don't get dragged down by it man.

I wish I could be more useful here.....hmmmm.......I know of many people who have "gone off the deep end" by abusing psychedelics for instance (myself included) that actually benefitted miraculously and recovered fully to a normal baseline of sanity by chanting nam-myoho-renge-kyo. It is a buddhist practice and the translation is "to dedicate oneself/life to the mystic law of cause and effect through sound". It is the sound of the universe itself, essentially. Its helped a lot of people where there was nothing else they could do to get better, don't rule out anything though. I really do feel for your friend, I hope he gets clear of it because I have a buddy who would exhibit this kind of psychosis whilst under the influence of MJ, and I know firsthand it is UGLY and usually leaves those around at a loss at what to do.

Best of luck!

 

[muie]

Thanks everyone!

I have a bit more information to clarify b/c when I posted this he was in the mental ward, after that message I only spent 2-3hrs with him when we met together he looked normal just looked like drugs took a toll on him but I didn't observe it first.

After the O.P. I had the opportunity to hang out with with him for 24+hrs.

First what happend to this guy that I loved like a family memeber is he spent some time overseas where he did excessive amounts of GHB (hospital serious), LSD (by the sheet), lots of K, amphetamine (along with cocaine, crack, various stimulants) while also doing #4H and in order to combat the strong nod he'd order meth to E.U. for himself. He left overseas to Canada in June-July, straight to the mental ward. Basically he's been clean off drugs since July at least.

He hasn't smoked weed since he left Europe so I thought I'd share a bowl of weed together. Right after the hit, within one minute he laughed, cryed his ass off, and then went completly off. He started opening up about the agency, that when he was overseas the NSA beamed him in the head with readable thoughts, microwaves, electromagnetic telecommunication. I known this guy for 6-7yrs; that I had a sister, that my parents are secret spies for the former communist regime, that cops in plain clothes are looking for him either to trap him or decorate him as a 5 star officer. He's getting specific messages with specific adderesses of (foreign) people only he knows, then he either goes to knock on the specific door where the family comes out puzzled or 'Breaking Bad' style where he goes to Starbuks and sits there half hour waiting for the NSA to show up for thier meeting. He doesnt listen to music nor watch televison (just the blank, unplugged screen) b/c the voices interfere and overpower everything else, although he takes his anti psychotics.

Needless to say my mind was blown and I had 250mg amobarbital just to go to sleep that night. I have always been loyal with my friends b/c real friends are hard to come by, this guy before that if I had my last $10 in my pocket I'd give him and he'd do the same, loved him like a brother! When I heard he was in the mental ward after waiting to see him for 2-3yrs I cried (sp?) along with his mother on the phone, I was depressed as fuck and I just wanted to see him even if he was mentally gone (which his parents warned me ahead of time), thats how much I cared for this guy.

Since then he's been getting worse (delusional), even though his memory is intact (remebers things i dont even remember) and I interrupted contact with him on account of his insanity....what broke relation was this guy I considered a brother even when he was fucked up, had the balls to call the police (he did it on his parents on account they implanted his readable microwaves/prarabolic antenas) and also did it to me with some ridculous accusations, which none the less (crazy or not) got me in shit.

I won't say fuck him b/c he's not right but have I lost my friend, YEAH!

The thing is he'll never know what kind of friend he's lost!

Thanks to everyone for their thoughts!

 

[neversickanymore]

Thanks for the update.. with the things he was saying it kinda screams schizophrenia. Im sorry your friend is not well, but I wouldn't place to much blame on them. Hopefully there are positive developments in the battle against this and all other mental illnesses.

 

[Uber_Penguin]

Yeah, idk, that doesn't sound like drugs to me. That sounds like real honest to goodness mental illness, very schizophrenia like, probably triggered by the drugs. Heck, his delusions remind me of the movie a beautiful mind.
Remember that as frustrating as dealing with someone who has a mental illness can be, he can't help it. Look at the things he's saying, he's obviously pretty far removed from the real world. When he does something like call the police he likely doesn't even comprehend what that would mean, and I'm sure certainly wouldn't have the mental faculties to understand what harm it could do. When someone's that gone they just do things based upon whatever wacky, senseless direction their mind is going at the time.

Speaking of a beautiful mind though, obviously people can get better and learn to live fairly normal lives even despite suffering from relatively severe mental illness. It isn't easy and it takes time, but it can absolutely be done. My point is don't necessarily write him off, a few months isn't much in the grand scheme of things. It can take years for someone to come to grips with serious mental illness. Obviously sometimes it doesn't get better, but ya can only wait and see.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I have watched many friends succumb to amphetamine psychosis. Very tragic. My heart goes out to you man.