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hating college.

gutstains said:
i can't move back in with my parents. i hate living with them or being around them for any extended period of time. i used to live in florida, but when i moved here to college in oregon, my mom decided to move to washington (i wouldnt let her move to oregon). my dad lives in maryland.
so i can't move back home to florida.. well i can, if i go to school there, where, yes, a lot of my friends go, and i've thought about it a lot. but i absolutely hate it in florida.. the weather for the most part. and lack of beauty in the outdoors.

the only thing i know i won't hate doing is travelling and photographing. but i know i'll hate everything else. like working to get money to travel.
but hell, it better be worth it..


sorry i didnt read the whole thing but i gotta rep the MD

fuckin MoCo for life bitches!!!

ok, but yea, i would say beast it out until the end of this semester, or really i would say next semester. next time take at least one class that interests you. you really should have some leeway in what you choose, and there has got to be something that interests you.

what made you decide to go all the way to Oregon? im actually going to school in Fl (like 1000 miles away from my home) and i don't like it much either, for many of the same reasons you have mentioned. i think alot of it has to do with the region though. people act differently from different places. commin down here was like commin to a different country almost. maybe you should try going to school closer to people you know? i think i will be transferring back up to MD this upcoming fall for that reason.
 
subopm420 said:
sorry i didnt read the whole thing but i gotta rep the MD

fuckin MoCo for life bitches!!!

ok, but yea, i would say beast it out until the end of this semester, or really i would say next semester. next time take at least one class that interests you. you really should have some leeway in what you choose, and there has got to be something that interests you.

what made you decide to go all the way to Oregon? im actually going to school in Fl (like 1000 miles away from my home) and i don't like it much either, for many of the same reasons you have mentioned. i think alot of it has to do with the region though. people act differently from different places. commin down here was like commin to a different country almost. maybe you should try going to school closer to people you know? i think i will be transferring back up to MD this upcoming fall for that reason.

what part of md? my dad lives in potomac. i don't know anybody that lives up there.

i took photo and drawing. those interest me, but unfortunately they are prereq to the upper photo and drawing classes. so hopefully next term i can get into those classes if they aren't full.

i just wanted to go somewhere a lot different than florida. it was gorgeous here, and i fell in love with the campus and surroundings as soon as i got here. on this trip i also visited univ or wash. campus, but was not as pleased, plus they wouldn't even gaurantee that i can be a photo major until sophomore year, which was a big turn off.
what school in florida are you at right now?
i like the people here a lot better than florida. so much more laid back.
it's just the academic part that is shitty.
 
duuude thats fucking great.. i live in p-town all the way, no fuckin shit.

i go school in pensacola, and yea the people are way more laid back down here but like i donno they will stab you in the back if you pisss em off. like im pretty outgoing and i get loud when im drunk, especially playin beer pong or w/e and i piss people off sometimes but down here they wont say anything to your face, they will just talk shit about you and then act like your friend to your face, like a bunch of girls hahaha
but yea thats crazy, another potomac kid on bl, we do more drugs than any other area though so it makes sense haha
 
in the end college is the shit thouhg

no parents, do what you want.

need money? sell alittle pot to your friends (dont really haha)

your gilfriend can sleep over whenever she wants.

you still have someone there to buy food and clean the bathroom (haha weak ass roomate, i own this room)

potomac or MoCo kids anymore in here? send me PM
 
if you want to learn do it for yourself, not the degree. what matters is if you are doing what makes you happy, if you are going through college and its hell then its not worth it.

be determined and do what you want. there is a good pbs documentary, i think the womans name is anne lebowitz, she was the first photographer for rolling stone and now shes the most famous photographer in the world.
 
Meh...i hated university when i first started. I'm in Australia, and it's a bit diferent here. We tend not to live on campus. Plus, there was no real 'campus', it was just a big office block in the middle of the city. There was so much hype about university from parents/teachers etc who went to uni/college in the 70's and back then it was nonstop partying, boozing, and very little work. I was sooo excited about going and i got a massive shock when I started. It was NOT partying, boozing, slacking. It was boring, serious and dull. And fucking HARD WORK. People were polite but certainly not sociable, and kept to themselves. I felt SO lost and alone and totally out of my depth. Like you, I found the first semester's work (actually the first year's work) boring as batshit and very difficult as i'd never studied business before.

As time went on, i despised uni less and less and slowly found my feet. Honestly, I never really loved it, but it became tolerable. Once I'd passed some of the 'core' subjects in first year, the classes started to become a lot more interesting especially because we started to be able to chose some electives, so i was much more motivated. I got to know some of my classmates and even got to like a few of them. This didn't happen magically, it came from working in a group with the same 3 people in a bunch of different subjects. After a couple of years, as a team we were extremely effective and efficient because we worked so well together and kept in constant communication. But I never got to be 'buddies' or friends with anyone at uni, doesnt bother me though.

I think the biggest mistake i made - and maybe you're doing it too, i dont know - is putting too much expectation on what uni/college was all about. When it didnt live up to my expectations, I got dissapointed and frustrated. Parties, clubs, drinking and all that sounds like fun, but college is about learning. You're there to get your degree, and sometimes you have to be single-minded in order to keep focused and motivated because it's damn easy to lose track. You HAVE to have outside interests, things that make you less focussed on the discomfort of the college situation.

Don't be ridiculous, there's no such thing as someone who's "meant for college". That's the biggest cop-out i've ever heard. If you're smart enough to have gotten through school and gotten this far, then that's all that matters. True, some people enjoy college more than others, but you're not there to enjoy yourself, your there to study hard and learn, learn, learn something useful to take away and build your career upon. I know that you're not motivated enough to put in a lot of effort with your studies at present, but it helps a lot if you at least try to care about your grades - not just enough to 'pass' but to do really well. Some people say that grades aren't that important which i personally think is bollocks. Good grades are good grades, you'll always have them to fall back on. Remember, you will stand out in the minds of lecturers and future employers if your grades are above average, because they know that you've made an effort where others willingly slack off. Even if the subjects don't interest you much, they shouldn't be too hard to ace if it's first year core stuff. Baby yourself through it when you're studying/cramming with a big bowl of M&M's by your side, or a huge block of chocolate, or whatever substance takes your fancy :D . Rote learning. Works a treat. Cough up half a textbook in the exam and you're laughing. Person marking the exam doesn't know the difference.

Also, dont' be afraid to speak up in class and especially in groups. Do u do group assignments? Use your creativity and ingenuity to approach problems/assignments etc. Your confidence will grow and your classmates will come to respect you.

Finally, don't worry about what other people are doing! So what if they look like they're enjoying themselves? Most people are morons, walking round with stupid happy looks on their faces "ooh look at me i'm smiling like a trained seal coz i dont want everyone to know how uncertain and stressed out I am" They're probably just as uncomfortable as you are. Probably a helluva lot dumber as well, by the sounds of things, but they're getting by b/c they've found ways to cope.

Anyway, sermon over. Good luck with it all, stick with it and don't give up! :)
 
Yay! I was gona start a thread about this very subject...
I agonized about this stuff for years, and dropped in and out of university, now I'm going full time. But I've finally realised that I just hate it. Even though I'm kind of an "egghead" type of guy, I just can't stand the academic atmosphere. Something about it pisses me off a lot... problem is I don't really fit into the working class eithjer. But there are others of course. And like some people said, it's ridiculous to go just everyone says it's the thing to do. I'm sorry, but that's what sheep do. That's how it is in my books. Today, sitting in class, and totally feeling this vibe of everyone robotically copying notes just to to make a fucking buck in a couple years, sickens me so much. It's like a holocaust of the spirit; everyone doing things for show and as a token gesture, nothing comes from the heart anymore. I just really don't find the classes I'm in people take it out of any interest... I'm sure it's different in other disciplines or colleges, so this only applies to me. I'm not trying to put people wgho like college down... I respect their passion... but it seems most do it out of complete lack of imagination and will, like they do most things (yes I'm a cynical motherfucker) Anyway, the real world sucks :(
 
Oh, wait a second. I see the the problem: your location is all wrong.

You apparently chose your school based off the successes of its goddamn football team or something. Anyone from the Pacific Northwest will tell you that if you move to Oregon, you don't move to EUGENE. Who told you to do that?

You need to go to PORTLAND, man. Go fill out some transfer forms, get your ass into Portland State University. It's the largest school in Oregon, it's downtown in the most chilled-out city I've ever visited, and the people there are absolutely amazing. Well, some of them atleast.

If you move to portland, you will immediately realize that your old classmates were a joke. At PSU, the average student is 28 years old and they actually know a thing or two about life. True, they're not as serious about studying as your current classmates, but in case you didn't realize this, YOU'RE IN EUGENE.

I mean shit, at PSU they don't have general education requirement as you know them (a little math, some english, various electives). They have ONE class. Just one class for all your gen. ed. requirements: University Studies, a single, pan-disciplinary engine for learning.

Oh, plus everyone should take at least a year off before they go in for their 4 years at school, or else you don't appreciate what you're doing. Seriously, go on a 12-month hiatus with the singular goal of "adventure" and spend some long sleepless nights pondering yourself. At some point you'll be sitting naked in the ritual chamber of some insane, underground, dinosaur-themed drug cult, a knife in each hand, a massive white guy named Lazarus yelling in german at you, and you'll realize what it is you really want to do with your life.

then you can go back (to portland) and enjoy your education because you'll have some sense of direction.
 
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I go to PSU. As far as general education requirements, there is more to it than "just one class" but there is a focus on interdisciplinary learning here.
 
i hate college for a pretty different reason.

my father is pretty controlling and abusive, he wouldn't let me study anything other than "Business" because thats all he knows.

My true passion is music, and apart from my hopes of being a succesful musician, i wanted to study sound engineering. He laughed in my face when i suggested it, so i also tried suggesting film, philosphy, computing, but no i was only allowed to study business.

So here i am, i failed my first year, so i had to retake my exams, im in my second year now, have a feeling im gonna fail again.

my dad knows im hating it, but he says its my fault for not trying to get into it.
my mum acts clueless and says that i wanted to do business, completly ignoring the fact that i begged her to help a couple of years ago.

so the first year i went to classes for about 2 months. this year i went to classes for about 3 months. assuming i pass, i cant wait for this shit to be over.

my dream is to drop out, live in a shitty appartment, play gigs, work a shitty job during the day and tell my dad to fuck himself and die.
 
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Why do you let your father control your life so much?, if your going to college you must be old enough to take control of your life man. Do you live with your parents? If so move out, find some uni friends to live with and change your degree to do what you want.

If you already live on campus or out of home and are fully independent then tell him to accept you and what you wanna do with your life or fuck off. I've had controlling parents my whole life and they did nothing but cause so much stress and really fucked up a big part of my life, now i've distanced myself from them and have created my own life and am much happier.

Theres no point continuing on doing business if you hate it, i can understand why, i did it for a year because thats what i was told i should do and hated it to, and i've now found my passion in science and loving it heaps.

Don't drop out and get a shitty menial job, it will get you nowhere in life you might be happy for a while doing your own thing but in the long run you will get bored so i reckon you should pursue music or sound engineering whatever interests u the most.
 
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