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Has bluelight desensitized you to drug use

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IAMTHOUGHTS

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i want to start by saying im not bashing bluelight.ru
i love this place!
i just wanted other peoples take on this subject. thanks

i think this is a great website, one of my favorites actually but ive noticed a little flaw with the overall goal (harm reduction) of bluelight.ru.

I feel that for me personally, the massive amounts of casual conversations reguarding hard drug use like, cocain, heroin, crack, meth, "E", needles, ect...
has almost completely desensitized me to any typical socical stigmas about "hard drugs", and how "hard" the actually are.

ive been a member for a few years and have gained so much knowledge about TONS of common drugs out on the streets and in the pharms and also the safe practice in using all of these drugs which is information that i caonsider to be so invaluable i cant even say.

before and after thoughts on drugs:

i used to think of crack like cyanide would not dream of thinking about it unless i planned on fucking up my life forever.

now my thought process goes more like: "hmmm, its just like coke but better. i kinda want to see what its like. shit! thats bad thinking!!!!"

and a few years ago i thought oxycontin was the stuff that "heroin addicts stole from phamacys because it was the next best thing to "H". and only a dope hungry, broke, family lying to, stealing, loser would put it up his nose."

now (with a 60mg tolerance) im thinking "oxy is great, i bet i could try heroin just a few times to experience its devine glory. i wont let my lsef be an addict."

AND IT GOES LIKE THIS FOR EVERY DRUG NOW!


bluelight has undoubtedly change my thought patterns about drugs being "bad" and my mind now is alright with the idea and the act of trying out new drugs which could damage my health and life forever.


I KNOW ITS NOT THE WESITE'S FAULT

i just wanted to here if anyone feels the same as me?

thank you if you read that whole thing, i just did a rail of the best coke ive ever tried in my life.
damn.

thanks:)
 
To a degree, yes. I wouldn't say "desensitized," but rather informed. I mean, with the whole drug war and all its propaganda, you really can't blame someone for being misled about drugs.


As for being desensitized, a hardcore addiction while running around with the lowest level junkies will desensitize you...
 
Sites like erowid made me think like this. I don't regret it at all, even though it's made me want to try 'harder' drugs, the harm reduction is still here to help you with things like dosages and contraindications and what not.
 
Sometimes its helped me from hurting mysellf, but I have also gone down some road I don't think I would have without being here.
 
Thanks to websites like this one and Erowid, I am still alive. Without active internet hard-reduction, I'm sure I would have done something stupid by now. (Not like I haven't but I think you know what I mean.)Thanks everyone ;)
 
i was thinking about this the other day. it definitely has made me a little more curious into trying something.

it reminds me of the first time i came across reefer when i was 11 and thought it was going to ruin my life, until i smoked it and was like well damn, it was something completely different from what i thought it was :)

so yeah i guess it is all about the propaganda they throw in your face about drugs. makes me want to experience everything before i take somebody else's opinion on it
 
phrozen said:
To a degree, yes. I wouldn't say "desensitized," but rather informed. I mean, with the whole drug war and all its propaganda, you really can't blame someone for being misled about drugs.
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Word^.

I feel more informed, and I feel like I'm able to see both sides of drug use, if anything. (The negative and the positive)
 
No. Drugs, to me, didn't neccessarily have a stigma in the first place but rather I just thought of them as chemical compounds. The world around me, and sometimes Bluelight, made me feel disillusioned about peoples thoughts and feelings on drugs because there just seemed to be alot of clutter sorrounding it when I really thought it was just this simple:

pharmokinetics
neurology
biology
molecular structures
psychiatric effects
etc.

You study, you learn, you experiment and piece together the data with your personal experience. It really didn't go pass that.
 
I guess that this site has given me lots of info on how to be safe and wehat to expect from certain things also it has made to try those things in the first place. BUt since i was into pot i'd always though "if pit is lkike this, coke, x, h must be amzing" and i was right. But as teh man above says drugs desensitises you more than anything else.
 
This reminds me a little of an email we got from a really upset woman who accused BL of causing her partner to get addicted to drugs.

The accusation is that he was curious about certain drugs, found out everything he needed from the drug forums here and was positively encouraged to get into a nasty IV drug habit by the posters.

If BL is desensitising people to hard drugs, that isn't the fault of the site. I think people should be encouraged to talk about the negative aspects as well as the positive of drug use. If we're failing in regards to highlighting the dangers, then perhaps certain sections of the site need to be reminded to present a more balanced perspective.

I do understand that there is a fair amount of resistance here to talking about negative consequences but BL is not, or at least I don't think it should be, pro-drug. "Neither condones or condemns" is what is stated in the FAQ and that's a really salient point for me; we should present information in an unbiased way.
 
I suppose if you live in a bubble that this site may "desensitise" you, lmao. Im sorry that you were lied to growing up, or simply told nothing. Why should one consider say shooting diacetyl morphine(heroin) in any different a light to say morphine? Granted who's giving the shot makes a difference but thats where harm reduction comes in. Theres no such thing as a hard drug, lmao. Silly terminology that, I wouldnt get a script for say, dextro-amphetamine and go oh wow, my shrink just gave me hard drugs. Some people simply have poor self control. To the best of my knowledge nobody got addicted because someone forced the drug on them. My point being is were not being desensitized, were being brought into reality as it is occuring right now. Nobody has the right to tell me what I can and cant put into my body. Cocaine, meth, and heroin have extremely valid uses in medicine and with proper respect as proven by medical science can be used with relative safety. It's too bad more of the world doesnt open they're fucking eyes or "desensitize" as you call it. rant over.


P.S, Im sorry that you've got an addictive personality. But get real man, take it from somebody that does both crack and heroin recreationally, and not regularly. with a little will power and common sense you can avoid becoming a junkie. Oh gee, if I take this stuff too often I'll become physically dependent. Yeah I'd like to but I know what happens, and so did you. Common sense calling, have we met?
 
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Being an user all my life, I would not say it has desensitized me, however... I recently viewed a thread showing instructions on how to mainline coke, and I started thinking...
hmmmm.
What impressionable minds might view that who would never shoot up, but maybe think "lets give it a try...I know how to do it now and they are saying it is such a cool rush" or "I know how to make poppy pod tea now, you can get it through mail order... wanna try it" type situations could arise.
Do not get me wrong, this is a very informative site and even though I do not post much, I read alot and have learned much. But it makes you think about the "harm reduction" buzz word that is thrown around this site so often.


Do not get me wrong, I love this site.
...but think about it for a bit.
is it really "harm reduction" all of the time?
 
Harm reduction, in one of the major ways we employ it, is blowing away the misinformation and showing the hard facts. For example, the hard facts on IV use - not the scare information from the gov't or your parents, but the real facts from users and researchers - this involves an explicit 'how-to' so people don't screw it up and hurt themselves, and as hoptis pointed out it ought to also include a quick rundown of the very real dangers (usually found in several personal experiences shared by members where things went wrong, and hopefully how to avoid, or recover, from such situations). So, yeah, our approach does open more doors and show people how to do more drugs than they may have considered before, but they are being told about them in a factual sense - so they can make up their minds for themselves what they would and would not do, based on reality and not propaganda.

I don't believe there are very many people who arrive here with NO interest in some drug, and hopefully we educate them on their use of that drug. Now, while visiting here they can learn a lot more about other drugs - and this may or may not influence them to explore these other drugs (most people are polydrug users, fwiw). The decision remains theirs, and in my honest opinion, if they came here to explore drug A, there is a very high likelihood they would eventually be exploring drugs B or C on their own once they've reached a point of not enjoying drug A as much :\ Again, the are smarter about it now. BUT, let's say they have a certain mindset against drug D (many people strongly abstain from IV use, or certain highly addictive drugs), you could say our discussions may break down that bias...but it might also strengthen it, you can't say.

I will also point out, that since so many people are polydrug users, there is a very good chance that even if a member does not wish to explore drugs B and C, they probably have friends that are doing them....and now that member knows more about what that friend is doing, and might be able to help educate them as well.

I believe the major goal is education, for people personally, but also for them to share with the others they know. The decision on what to do or not do remains with the individual, but hopefully it can be made with better information that what they had before they arrived here.





I will also comment from my own experience, that were it not for this site, I would not have tried several things in my past (some I continued to use, some I said once was more than enough). I actually relish the fact that this site DOES expose me (and others) to things we might not otherwise know of, whether that's drugs or simply other people with varying backgrounds and experiences. Were it not for those 'friends' I wouldn't have been given a chance to make my own decisions and shape who I wish to be. I would have been who my parents told me to be, who the gov't regulated me to be, and who I naively remained. Now, I'm much more comfortable in who I am, who I have been, and who I can be - not just with drugs but in a lot of things where you have to choose for yourself, and have self-control or discipline. I wouldn't have tried some of the things I've tried, but I'd be much less of the person I am if I hadn't explored myself in those ways (for me, it wasn't about exploring the drugs so much as learning about myself).
 
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