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Heroin has anyone tried dosing very heavily on marijuana edibles for withdrawl

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blime84

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I am considering doing full detox some time in the near future, and was wondering if anyone had tried dosing very heavily on edibles to counteract insomnia.

Lack of sleep is one of the worst parts of kicking for me... I recently made some canna butter with 2 sticks of butter + 17 100 grams of Butane extracted hash oil(wax as some call it). Pretty much, 1 gel cap full of this butter gets u nice and high for about 5-6 hours, 2 capsules closer to 2 8 hours, but with 3, I mg, dget high for like 14-16 hours and to the point where I can't stay awake. I know that when I'm kicking insomina is horrible. Smoking weed does not help me sleep, benzos only help slightly, but what if I took 3-5 capsules of this cannabutter, would It still knock me out, or would i just be really stoned and still kicking? I was thinking a 7 day methadone detox self admin - Day 1 - 120mg, day 2- 80 mg, day 3 - 60 mg, day 4 - 40 mg, day 5- 30mg, day 6 20mg, day 7 10mg, then nohthing. I would sta/rt the edible dosing on day 5 or 6 depending how I feel, but usually around 30mg and below is when I start feeling like shit. After 1 week of nothing, I should be relativly ok again. Any thoughts
 
I ate weed one time when I was detoxing and I will NEVER do it again. Normally weed does not make me anxious or paranoid, but when I am in WD and use weed it gives me gnarly panic attacks.

This might not happen to you, but I doubt it will knock you out and give you relief, you will probably just be really stoned and still WDing really hard. Try loperamide or go to your doc and get clonidine or a benzo.
 
To address the OP question, I would tread lightly....as stated above, paranoia and anxiety might be too much to handle. I would use it to help me sleep (Indica edibles only)

what is 17 100 grams of BHO? Are you saying 17 grams, or 17 doses of 100mgs?
 
If cannabis doesn't make you paranoid while detoxing, it might work to some extent. I don't remember the chemistry, but oral consumption of weed isn't the same as smoking - some reaction in the liver changes the chemicals around (from memory.)
 
I was too fucked up on butter kept falling asleep. Meant 10 grams of oil into 2 sticks of butter. I don't get paranoid, been smoking over 15 years. This oil butter is the only thing that I have felt been too strong
 
I did that all the time when detoxing I mean it does really make you relax note than you were before and helps sleep but your still sick as shit. People who get anxiety from pot this is a no no of course but if you ho good with pot then it will help out quite a bit.
I reccomed firecrackers they are easy and quick to make yet they knock you on your ass.
 
A few years ago, I was out all I could get was pot, I thought if I smoked enough, it would kill opiate w/ds....I was wrong, I got high, but w/ds were still there, so I didnt really enjoy it. I learned when it comes to opiates, NOTHING can take their place! (at least nothing Ive had)
 
If you don't like weed normally, you sure as hell won't like it in WD.

If you do, then, well, there ya go.

I wouldn't dose "very heavily" though, and remember it will be harder to control you're dose orally( slow onset, long duration.)

Weed does indeed alleviate some symptoms of WD(especially appetite) but it doesn't at all help me sleep, and as others mentioned could make you extremely anxious.
 
^ ya but if one uses cannabis without the other items you mention, it would be way better than nothing at all so I disagree.

Even with clonidine and benzos, wd isn't really nice so I think that's a misnomer.
 
Yeah but for some people the side effects outweigh the benefits(tachycardia, anxiety) but a benzo would fix those.

Certainly better than nothing if you're good with pot though, absolutely.
 
Well yeah of course, if someone is not habituated to cannabis then it is probably a bad idea but the same does not go with benzos. Someone who is not habituated to benzos and took a healthy dose would simply pass out.

The way I see it is that those who aren't habituated to cannabis will likely never acquire it for wd purposes anyways. Regular smokers will be damned sure they have a healthy bag ready though.
 
GABAPENTIN. High dose gabapentin dosed small, hourly, is so effective in detox and it made weed very powerful and sleep inducing (and reduced anxiety greatly.) You're going to trip though visually. You could also use Lyrica (pregabalin) if you can get it.

Over the years I've learned that gabapentin is a must in withdrawal. Won't even attempt without it. It is so highly effective, for whatever reason, that I even avoid benzos. (I had a problem with them for a long time.)

Good luck, I wish you the best.
 
120mg methadone is a huge dose.

Please DO NOT do a 7 day taper. You WILL wish you we're dead. At that dose, especially, it takes days to even feel full WD. You have to slow the taper down, you can't get a hold of a little more?

Trust me, I took over a month to come down from slightly less than that, and I didn't even quit(just got down to ~ 40mg so I could jump to buprenorphine) and it was still hell.

Seriously, I missed the part about your 7 day taper, way too fast, just ask anyone here, they will agree.
 
drewbocop said:
GABAPENTIN. High dose gabapentin dosed small, hourly, is so effective in detox and it made weed very powerful and sleep inducing (and reduced anxiety greatly.) You're going to trip though visually. You could also use Lyrica (pregabalin) if you can get it.

Over the years I've learned that gabapentin is a must in withdrawal. Won't even attempt without it. It is so highly effective, for whatever reason, that I even avoid benzos. (I had a problem with them for a long time.)

Good luck, I wish you the best.
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Pregabalin is much better, if you can get it. But yeah, gabapentin helps, but for me it's more of an adjunct
(Gabapentin+benzodiazepines actually help RLS)
 
It helped me with paws but didnt do much at all for withdrawal... Like, nothing. I was just high kind of and felt fucking horrific... If immodium helps with h withdrawal I'm sure it would help some maybe with methadone. Good luck! That's a really intense and quick taper, btw.
 
OP are you on methadone maintenance or are you just using methadone for the detox? If you are doing methadone detox you shouldn't feel that bad at all. However, if you are on methadone maintenance and your gonna do that taper your gonna wish you were dead as lorne said and weed aint gonna do shit for you.
 
You'd be much better off with benzos for insomnia. Though a little weed helps. Well this is really just my opinion, it varies greatly depending on how weed affects you and how you handle the effects of it. Like myself, I get bad anxiety, no bueno for me with the weed alone if I am kicking. Maybe a hit of some high quality stuff that is less likely to cause anxiety(the downer strain, pure indica strain I think I'd want? though I always mix that and sativa up), but I really can't handle anymore or I will checking my pulse every 30 seconds. Actually it does work to relieve my withdrawal, as my anxiety is so high I am not thinking of how shitty I feel and all the awful symptoms.

But for me when I've cold turkeyed I find a combo of a benzo (any is better than none, but clonazpeam is probably best just because how long it lasts), a couple beers (2-3, I'd like something tasty, too, no cheap domestics), and then I'd be able to smoke like a bowl or J, or more like 1/2, as I'd split it. I don't regularly smoke weed, but I find it helps in withdrawal with many of the symptoms, mental and physical. So I always like to try to get some when I am in withdrawal, but its a no/no without the benzos. Otherwise I'd rather no weed, but that just me. I use to smoke weed regularly, basically until about 3 1/2 years ago when opiates stole my heart. I would get anxiety smoking back then, too, quiet often. Usually I could control it, but there were times I'd be really bugging out. So I always had those issues with weed, if it doesn't bother you like that then I only see it helping an opiate withdrawal.
 
RTrain said:
You'd be much better off with benzos for insomnia. Though a little weed helps. Well this is really just my opinion, it varies greatly depending on how weed affects you and how you handle the effects of it. Like myself, I get bad anxiety, no bueno for me with the weed alone if I am kicking. Maybe a hit of some high quality stuff that is less likely to cause anxiety(the downer strain, pure indica strain I think I'd want? though I always mix that and sativa up), but I really can't handle anymore or I will checking my pulse every 30 seconds. Actually it does work to relieve my withdrawal, as my anxiety is so high I am not thinking of how shitty I feel and all the awful symptoms.

But for me when I've cold turkeyed I find a combo of a benzo (any is better than none, but clonazpeam is probably best just because how long it lasts), a couple beers (2-3, I'd like something tasty, too, no cheap domestics), and then I'd be able to smoke like a bowl or J, or more like 1/2, as I'd split it. I don't regularly smoke weed, but I find it helps in withdrawal with many of the symptoms, mental and physical. So I always like to try to get some when I am in withdrawal, but its a no/no without the benzos. Otherwise I'd rather no weed, but that just me. I use to smoke weed regularly, basically until about 3 1/2 years ago when opiates stole my heart. I would get anxiety smoking back then, too, quiet often. Usually I could control it, but there were times I'd be really bugging out. So I always had those issues with weed, if it doesn't bother you like that then I only see it helping an opiate withdrawal.
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Yeah weed with benzos is a whole different ball game than straight up weed. Especially in withdrawals. I imagine benzos + high dose edibles would feel pretty awesome. I know I highly touted gabapentin/pregabalin but I was just giving you my personal strategy. As others have said, get benzos if you can and only if you're not susceptible to trading addictions.

And 120mg methadone in 7 days?? 8o I was on 120mg myself and I tapered over the better part of a year (I think) and it still wasn't very easy. I did it, but it wasn't a walk in the park.

Godspeed.
 
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