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Has anyone taken MDMA in benzo withdrawal? If so, what was the result?

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I am going through protracted benzodiazepine withdrawal right now. I know that in some people this can cause sensitivities to certain other drugs. However so far I have not had any problems with any drugs I have taken so far. This includes kratom, heroin, ketamine, LSD, mushrooms and DMT. None of these caused any complications using it benzo withdrawal and I use(d) quite a lot of these, except ketamine which I have started to dislike due the hangover.

But I am still trying to be cautious, so what do you guys think about MDMA? Keep in mind, I am not freshly off benzos, been off for a long time just still suffering from protracted effects. I like taking drugs because it helps me with the anhedonia I suffer, especially LSD. LSD gives me peace.
 
I took MDMA about 4.5 months into benzo WD (A bad one too, 20 mgs a day for 2 months and just a ton before that as well.) I went through rehab so when I took MDMA it was not a great experience. I just wanted to be sober and felt dissapointed in myself for taking an illicit drug. Before this I took heroin, cocaine, and klonopin one time... I presume that the reason I felt this way is because MDMA works on the brain and serotonin more than the previous drugs I had taken. MDMA will make you think, and it may leave you with not such a great roll. I wouldn't be taking any of these drugs during benzo withdrawal though man... really what are you thinking? Get on some good meds so you can ride this out and don't go back to it. That means you shouldn't trade one addiction for another.
 
Why would I want to get on "meds"? LSD and heroin have helped me to cope with benzo withdrawal tremendously. I was suicidal before taking LSD. It has been a godsend.
 
Because you are in benzo withdrawal <snip>. You aren't supposed to just shoot dope because you are WDing. <snip>
 
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I have rolled in the later stages of benzo withdrawal (which I am still in right now), where I only had brain zaps and head pressure left as symptoms. This experience actually went quite well, I almost feel better since doing it actually. But I am much closer to the ending side with my benzo withdrawal progress.

It doesn't sound like you are in the misery days of benzo withdrawal, but if it still affects you enough you probably should wait a while longer. I don't think I will roll again until my head pressure and brain zaps disappear, because I feel I am pretty close to the end of withdrawals.

There came a point in my withdrawals where it no longer seemed to affect my mood. Nowadays I still have some of the side effects I mentioned, but I don't feel like the Kpin is bringing my mood down anymore. Had I been in the painful days of Kpin withdrawal, mdma wouldn't have been to pleasing due to the annoying side effects that usually follow, then just piling on to the problem at hand.
 
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Plain and simple. Your withdrawl will ruin the roll if not then the come down will land you in a place you don't want to go back to. Don't do it.
 
PeaceNLove said:
Plain and simple. Your withdrawl will ruin the roll if not then the come down will land you in a place you don't want to go back to. Don't do it.
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sucked , well the pills sucked too, was up for 2 days and had to scam some benzos to chill out, which just brokedown the whole getting off benzo kick i was on
 
It sucks when you have a legitimate reason to use a benzo, but you're going through benzo withdrawal, and have to make a tough choice to use or not. I can't wait until I am fully withdrawn from Kpin and can take it very rarely, but when necessary.
 
chitown rollin said:
I took MDMA about 4.5 months into benzo WD (A bad one too, 20 mgs a day for 2 months and just a ton before that as well.) I went through rehab so when I took MDMA it was not a great experience. I just wanted to be sober and felt dissapointed in myself for taking an illicit drug. Before this I took heroin, cocaine, and klonopin one time... I presume that the reason I felt this way is because MDMA works on the brain and serotonin more than the previous drugs I had taken. MDMA will make you think, and it may leave you with not such a great roll. I wouldn't be taking any of these drugs during benzo withdrawal though man... really what are you thinking? Get on some good meds so you can ride this out and don't go back to it. That means you shouldn't trade one addiction for another.
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Trading one addiction for another? If you are addicted to MDMA then you have no self control. Literally ZERO self control. Get off your high horse of "benzo knowledge". It's obvious this person has a stronger constitution than you. Stop talking shit to them and give them constructive advice. all you brought to this thread was bad vibes and a "holier than thou" attitude.
 
i think the overall intention of his message was good, i dont think the vibes were too bad. The important thing (as I've suffered benzo withdraw only from just dropping them and was recommended 3 days later to start again otherwise i might seizure) is to taper off benzos. I'm a very fortunate individual as i suffered almost NO withdraw symptoms when i finally was completely weened off the drug (except the occasional irritability). It was completely different when i just stopped taking them, it was 100% debilitating, i couldn't even walk across the street because i felt like i might pass out at any moment and get hit by a car.

the important thing to remember is that any situation you envelope yourself in is for learning, you will learn from it, you can decide what actions you've done that have caused joy, and what actions have caused "not-joy". Just pay attention to your body, this might be a little "out there" and "too spiritual" for some, but i live my drug-taking life with this single thought

"Does this feel good? Am i taking (substance) right now because i WANT to and i know that it will bring me 100% JOY, or am i doing this because of any other reason?" (ie, friends are faded, everyone else is doing it, ANY sort of guilty feeling is present, etc).

Also, pay attention to your body, it will give you feedback LONG BEFORE your brain can comprehend whats actually occurring. Think back to your last argument that may have ended not so good with a friend, partner, or parent. What was your body doing? Did it tense up? Did your gut start to feel like it was rumbling/shaking/queesy? Did you feel anxious, fast paced? If you hold an MDMA tablet in your hand and start to feel body feedback, chances are you shouldn't do it. Your body is saying "NO! Don't!" and your brain's job is to convince it otherwise.

Do this with a soda pop or hamburger. Hold the soda in one hand and a glass of water in the other when you're thirsty. Feel the "vibe" from each one, pay attention to which arm feels stronger than the other. On the flip side, do this when you're hungry, hold two foods in different hands. Pay attention to what happens. It's very, very interesting :)

hope this post meets you well - i know these theories are somewhat "different," but test it out!
 
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i hear LSD has had some clinical value for alcoholics as well. I can see this as one time i was on LSD and literally everything that was toxic had a "toxic" and "Gross" feel to it. I was drinking a giant beer and my brain was screaming "put that down, its terrible for you right now, its okay for other days just not right now your body doesn't want that. it wants water and food."

I smoked a cigarette as well and while it felt nice i somehow knew that it was a poor choice and going without the cigarette would have left my body in a refreshed, wonderful state of clear breathing.
 
chitown rollin said:
Because you are in benzo withdrawal <snip>. You aren't supposed to just shoot dope because you are WDing. <snip>
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Says who? I am in this for the long haul (protracted withdrawal) and although I am a lot better than I was in the beginning, my days are still fairly pleasureless. Heroin gives me something to look forward to. I take it every few days and it has helped me to cope. I realize it could be become an addiction and I might stop taking it for that reason. However, that is always true whether you are in benzo wd or not. I see nothing specific about being in benzo withdrawal that makes you not "supposed" to use dope (I don't shoot it btw either).

Anyway, i am still thinking about taking MDMA. My main concern is that I will be awake for two nights or have some other kind of negative reaction. How powerful a stimulant is MDMA? Is it just like taking speed?

Also, what if I snorted it instead of taking it orally? Woul;d that make it last shorter and allow me to sleep?
 
Quit talking shit. He is talking about shooting dope in benzo withdrawal. I didn't say one thing about being addicted to MDMA. I don't know anyone who is addicted to MDMA... I am certainly not. If he was addicted to benzos and he is shooting heroin to feel better then all he is doing is covering up his want to use benzos with another substance. Get out of here with your bullshit. I want to blast you so hard right now but I know the mods would send me a PM like they have 3 times now. It really sucks that I was about to change my location to "Church of Noise", but seeing as you have already done that I will never EVER change it to that name. :)
 
Sorry I didn't see that you don't shoot it. If you have NEVER taken MDMA as it seems then I would really not advise taking it at this point in your life. I am in benzo withdrawal too right now, although hopefully the tail end of it, and I am happy as can be. I honestly didn't go through a period of no pleasure like you claim and I am sorry that you are experiencing that, but I would recommend waiting taking something as awesome as MDMA for a time when you are more clear headed. Heroin and MDMA are completely different drugs.
 
Well I took it. Had a pretty good time. I would say out of all the drugs I have done, this one gives you the most purely blissful feeling.

However I still prefer LSD. I feel like I get much more spiritual insight from LSD, whereas with MDMA I did not learn anything. My body just felt amazingly good for a few hours.
 
Hmmm. I'd be worried MDMA would lead to rebound anxiety or panic from the benzo withdrawal. But I am prone to that. If you are not, you'll be fine.
 
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Honestly bro just reading the title of this thread made me cringe.

You went on Benzo's because you were suffering from anxiety and depression to begin with right?

The side effects of withdrawl are very unpleasant...MDMA decreases serotonin levels in the brain which will contribute to your stress and anxiety.

Lets say that you are 1 week from finishing withdrawing from benzo's and having a clean system, mind,and body. MDMA will turn that into 3 weeks.

If you dont mind suffering for a bit I say go for it. But 3 weeks lost to me these days is simply too much time....especially for a peak that BARELY lasts that long in the first place...

do your thing bro. But please dont start a "How come Im depressed?" or "Have I caused brain damage?" thread.

Ill just say "I told you so"

-Splinter
 
Yes, a couple times, it's not worth it. I took 4 hits of acid and snorted molly while off my daily klonopin for days at a time, and I hadn't slept for a couple days as well. That was fucking horrible. Also once I binge-rolled for days in a row, skipped all my klonopin doses so I'd have intense rolls, and when i came off it I was suicidal and depressed like never before (and I've been put in psych wards for intense suicidal thoughts, this was absolutely the worst feeling of my life, I felt completely dead inside). That experience turned me off of overusing MDMA, let me say that much. I have never cried so hard in my life.

Though I see you've already done it, I'm glad it worked out well for you. :)
 
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