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Heroin Has anyone ever fully withdrew from heroin and found it NOT hard?

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i am just getting out of a roughly .5g-1g a day heroin addiction that went on for a little over a year. i had never tried to withdraw before this time for fear of terrible withdrawals and pain. however, it's been 8 days since my last hit and it really wasn't all that bad...yeah, some cold sweats, obviously some yearning for the drug, but not even at one moment was i inclined at any point to relapse. could this be attributed to the fact that i have never done IV (always snorted) or has this ever happened to anyone? i feel as though i was never addicted and it's such a weird feeling to have after a year of abusing it the most notorious drug out there.
 
It sure isn't because you didn't IV, I can tell you that much. I find coming off heroin to be pure hell on earth, regardless of the route of administration.
 
Im an ex addict.. not heroin but cocaine.. I used IV cocaine for about a year and a half.. when I first quit, the first week was pretty easy because I had so much bullshit going on in my life that it was logical and really gratifying to stop.. after 3 months the hype of me not taking any more drug blablabla was gone.. after a full year clean, I went to an old friend and we smoked a bud... instantly, in the same 24hr I had a needle in my arm.. for no particular reason,etc. and then started the real fight.. getting clean, relapse. getting clea, relapse,etc.. until I really had a major breakdown...

Anywayz, all I can tell you is, if you plan to not have any relapse, don't fool yourself... and once you relapse and you start to be clean again, talk to someone..One day at a time!
 
1g/day for a year only cold sweats? i call bullshit, or absolutely shit heroin. there is no way, absolutely no way.
 
rakeone said:
Im an ex addict.. not heroin but cocaine.. I used IV cocaine for about a year and a half.. when I first quit, the first week was pretty easy because I had so much bullshit going on in my life that it was logical and really gratifying to stop.. after 3 months the hype of me not taking any more drug blablabla was gone.. after a full year clean, I went to an old friend and we smoked a bud... instantly, in the same 24hr I had a needle in my arm.. for no particular reason,etc. and then started the real fight.. getting clean, relapse. getting clea, relapse,etc.. until I really had a major breakdown...

Anywayz, all I can tell you is, if you plan to not have any relapse, don't fool yourself... and once you relapse and you start to be clean again, talk to someone..One day at a time!
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so you feel that intensity of withdrawals has to do more with the starting and stopping more than ROA, dose, or time using? interesting. i don't plan to relapse...however i can't begin to tell you how easy it is to think about it now that I feel great after quitting after using for over a year ):
 
i against i said:
1g/day for a year only cold sweats? i call bullshit, or absolutely shit heroin. there is no way.
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ranged between half a bundle and a bundle a day. maybe once a month i'd do a little more than a bundle. you can call bullshit...but i swear to you that i didn't throw up, have diarrhea, or pain in my body none of the days that i was withdrawing. i had cold sweats, obviously my feet kicking nonstop, a moderate feeling of needing dope, and some mild dystonia. that's it. i have no reason to lie. i'd love to come on here and say that i was proud of withdrawing because of how difficult it was...but it really wasn't...i don't know how else to explain it. it was very weird to me, i won't lie.
 
bullshit. 1g/day for a year your brain chemistry will be so fucked up you won't be feeling happy for about six months until your brain starts producing endorphins again. not to mention, you will have acute withdrawal for around two weeks, and likely PAWS for a while. why are you making shit up?

you look pretty young, how were you affording a $100/day habit? in uk so may be off on price.

if you aren't lying, go straight to glaxosmithkline and let them do a load of tests on you and isolate the gene that means you don't get physical addiction, you'll make a lot of money.
 
WHAT!? a hundred dollars a day? what the hell do you pay for your bundles, sir? in paterson, nj, i pay 40 dollars for ten bags which is usually a gram of dope. i am 19. and i get paid 11 dollars an hour where i work. it isn't exactly hard to afford the heroin i was using.

EDIT: i wasn't intentionally trying to break the rules there by giving out prices. i was just trying to make my point
 
well...all i can say is that i really don't have any reason to lie. i took crazy amounts of immodium (in anticipation of diarrhea) and benadryl (for the kicking legs). and my doctor prescribed me Seroquel to help me try to sleep through withdrawals, however it didn't work at such low doses. Which is actually a good thing because after I felt fine from withdrawal, I had really bad low blood pressure and couldn't stand up for longer than ten seconds due to the Seroquel i was taking (yesterday). i doubt the drugs had anything to do with my reaction though. i'd like to hear more opinions, though...
 
i against i said:
1g/day for a year only cold sweats? i call bullshit, or absolutely shit heroin. there is no way, absolutely no way.
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Here is what I am thinking, and OP correct me if I am wrong. Seeing that they are from NJ, they are likely getting stamp bags in bundles. It used to be that these bags weighed about .1 each, making a bundle about a gram, so I think that the OP is using that type of system to measure their use. In reality, a lot of bags don't even weigh .05 in NJ. I know people that weigh their bags out and .1 bags look huge compared to the usual bags going around. I have heard that Camden has the fatter bags, but even then .08 is probably what they weigh. I could be wrong about how the OP is considering the weight to be what it is, but I would at least cut it in half if they are talking .5 = 5 bags or 1 gram = a bundle, because it's more like .04 = 1 bag so a bundle would be .4

Anyway, on the topic of how bad heroin withdrawal is, I never had too bad of a habit (most I was doing was .4 nasally 3-4 days a week) so I can't fully comment on how bad the withdrawals for a heavy habit are. However, when I was on 16-32mg suboxone for 18 months (back when doctors used to prescribe 32mgs as a regular dose, and before I knew anything about suboxone or BL) I did a half-ass taper over a couple of weeks and that withdrawal was pretty horrible. Basically I had moved away and thought I would be good since suboxone.com said there were a few doctors in the area, but they ended up having like a 6 month waiting list, and referred me to a doctor in the next state over which I was not about to do. Plus, since this was a while ago before suboxone was well known, I wasn't too worried since afterall, the doctor assured me that the withdrawals from suboxone weren't that bad.

I'm not going to get into detail, but on day 3 of no sleep I was the closest I ever was to killing myself, and I poured my whole xanax script into my mouth, but then was smart enough to realize that it wouldn't have killed me and I would have just looked like a fool once my roomates grew concerned about me sleeping for a few days and called 911 or something, and then I would be stuck detoxing from benzos too.

IMO, if you can get 2 hours of sleep or more while kicking, then you either didn't have a serious habit, or you had some strong sedatives to help you with sleep. If you have kicked a benzo habit before, or something like a high dose of methadone or bupe cold turkey, then kicking heroin doesn't seem so bad, unless of course your daily dose was high. I would definitely consider a gram/day high, but like I said before I don't think the OP was doing that much, or the stuff they were getting was crap.

Edit: During my tl;dr post, it was confirmed that the OP did indeed use bags as their form of measurement, so in reality their habit wasn't as big as they thought, unless they are the only person in NJ that is still getting .1 bags, which I highly doubt for obvious reasons.
 
You really used every day for a year 1 bundle a day? I mean, it doesn't count if you say you've been using a year but in reality never used consecutively every day for at least 90% of the time. It's just odd...because if you were in fact doing that much a day everyday for 365 days...it's almost scientifically impossible that you wouldn't experience real withdrawals. When the brain is deprived of its naturally producing chemicals for long, that's where the withdrawal comes from. Your brain compensates for what it lost. Maybe you're just an anomaly... in which case, like i against i said, please go get studied so scientists can reproduce whatever it is about your brain chemistry that prevents psychical dependence and give it to me...ha.

Very odd, my friend.
 
^ Have you seen the size of NJ bags lately though? They are a lot smaller than the good stamped and taped Brooklyn bags that are around (though becoming less and less common). I know the size of the new blank untaped bags in the NY have fallen off which I am not a fan of, but the stamped ones from solid crews are mostly still pretty big, but even though they aren't .1/bag or 1 gram/bundle. Swain weighs his bags, and I think he said that NJ bags are usually around .036 so take that into consideration. Still though, daily usage of .4/day or .2 if they are getting a half bundles would still be unpleasant if it is done everyday, but nowhere near how bag 1 gram or .5/day habit would be.
 
tommy is probably right. i have never weighed the powder out on a scale. i've always heard that a stamp bag was usually .1g so i was using that to measure. in reality, not even every bag from paterson is the same size to begin with. but since i heard the average was .1 then i just figured that was a simple way to measure my addiction. and yes, probably about 95 to 98 percent of the time, i was on a ten bag a day habit.
 
^ Yea man in Paterson you can expect your bags to weigh between .03 and .04 which is quite sad these days, but considering how cheap bundles and bricks are there, you get what you pay for. So you would be at .4/day at the most, and then when you consider that you snort it you are getting about half the amount that an IV user is getting. So yea, your habit was a lot smaller than you and most others originally thought, but that's a good thing.
 
Musta been really low quality dope. Especially at the price your mentioning.
 
Tommyboy said:
^ Yea man in Paterson you can expect your bags to weigh between .03 and .04 which is quite sad these days, but considering how cheap bundles and bricks are there, you get what you pay for. So you would be at .4/day at the most, and then when you consider that you snort it you are getting about half the amount that an IV user is getting. So yea, your habit was a lot smaller than you and most others originally thought, but that's a good thing.
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seems i've been over exaggerating my problems for a year then -.- but yes, thank god.
 
^ Yea man. Good thing you kicked on your own instead of going to detox and telling them you were doing a "gram" a day for a year. You woulda almost OD'd on methadone if they were generous with their dosing.

pbuilder said:
Musta been really low quality dope. Especially at the price your mentioning.
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Quality = high, quantity = low

If a little over 2 bundles is needed to weigh out to a gram, then the price is pretty close to the normal price for a gram.
 
Fuck copping in Patterson then... why not just hop across the bridge and score in the city? .03 and .04 sized bags? That's ridiculous. Even for that price a bun. By the way, shouldn't somebody snip out the prices on here? I thought we weren't allowed to mention anything regarding price, even though I liked it way better when we had huge megaprice threads.
 
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