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Has anybody actually fully recovered after having a long term MDMA comedown?

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necrotyx

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It seems every thread I read on BL says something like "I feel 100%, YOU DO GET BETTER TRUST ME" Then the person posts something like "Still recovering from anxiety but feel much better" several months later. I'm on month 8 of my comedown and I really need some closure. I can definitely feel myself getting better, but still have anxiety symptoms. It just seems like they're becoming more bearable, but not actually going away. I want to know whether somebody out there has actually gotten better (back to the way they were before the incident) because if not, I have some major tweaks I need to make to my lifestyle. Thanks guys!
 
I would just get high on other drugs for 2-3 days afterwards then by the 4th day just sleep a lot and then just kind of move on

Im not sure if thats really a solution or just a new set of problems but I never enjoyed smoking weed more than when I was coming down off MDMA
 
MDMA has a half life of 9 hours, so your comedown ended about 8 months ago. It seems much more likely that the MDMA just brought an aspect of yourself to the surface that you can't identify (it is being studied as a potential psychotherapy drug because of reasons like this). I've never heard of long term negative effects from a single MDMA exposure, other than with an overdose.
 
Crashing said:
MDMA has a half life of 9 hours, so your comedown ended about 8 months ago. It seems much more likely that the MDMA just brought an aspect of yourself to the surface that you can't identify (it is being studied as a potential psychotherapy drug because of reasons like this). I've never heard of long term negative effects from a single MDMA exposure, other than with an overdose.
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It seems most people in the scene know nothing of the long term comedowns that some users experience. I'm a prime example. I've done MDMA once, about 200mg, and I'm still fucked (albeit much better than when it started) 3 months later.

necrotyx: There are guys who've recovered back to 100%. There's a couple of big recovery threads that I'm sure you've seen. However, most of the accounts on BL and in those threads is exactly like you describe. I can only relate to a few of them, and only even fewer claim to be back to 100%. Have you made any progress during your 8 months? What are your symptoms?

You might not be able to relate to my situation, as I'm only 3 months in. Still, I feel like I should add that I've improved very significantly during that time, and I continue to improve. In my dark hours that still happen every now and then, I do fear that I won't improve. At the point I'm at now though, those thoughts don't take hold simply because my improvement at this point is undeniable. Why wouldn't it continue?
 
Crashing said:
I just came across this thread http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/700474-MDMA-long-term-comedown

Apparently the op took 400mg, which is an overdose. I would say that your diet and exercise are the most important factors involved in recovering completely. How much attention and change have you given to these areas?
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Well, I've been caffeine free since the experience, very low amounts of sugar and carbs, and tons of meats and foods that are high on tryptophan. I feel better, but it hasn't made a remarkable difference. Exercise on the other hand is a bit of a struggle for me. I get horrible shortness of breath whenever I engage in physical activity, but I'm trying to slowly build my way up there in a comfortable environment.
 
ScaredFirstTimer said:
Have you made any progress during your 8 months? What are your symptoms?
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I definitely made tons of progress in terms of getting used to my symptoms and living with them, which are mostly anxiety related, but haven't necessarily had days where I felt 100%. I guess it all comes with time. Furthermore, my symptoms, like I said, or mostly anxiety related. I've had some odd symptoms including feeling like I need to urinate, but not actually needing to, sleep paralysis (twice), unexplained rash-less itchiness, and heartburn (i got this checked out and the doctor told me I was perfectly fine). The symptoms that really ruin my day are vertigo, dizziness, fatigue, shortness of breath, massive tension headaches, and brain zaps. Once in a while I'll tend to feel a bit depressed or have these horrible obsessive thoughts for about a week or so. We're f*cking troopers man because those first three months were absolute hell, but that was when I saw the most progress. Now it's just a slow, very frustrating healing process. My best advice is to stop doing anything that will stress your mind or body out. Stay away from sitting home playing video games or watching movies and go out more, socialize. Set yourself goals and accomplish them, you will have such a great boost of confidence. And the most important word of advice is to stay away from ALL drugs, including anything over the counter. They leave you with a really bad hangover the next day :/. In addition, if you're going to drink, don't binge drink. Have a beer or two socially, it actually really helps and doesn't have any adverse effects the following day. If you need anything, feel free to pm me man.
 
I guess what i'm suggesting is to stop attributing the way you feel to the MDMA. I mean, what other choice do you have? You can try to figure out how it relates to the MDMA or just take your life as it is now, and transform it into what you want it to be! Entheogens are regarded as life changing because we often feel altered after taking them in some way or another.. for the rest of our lives! These ways can be positive or negative and the only way to make solid changes from there is so approach the present situation holistically and with no reservations. Maybe if you forget you ever took the MDMA, things will quickly start to change. There is no limit to the amount of healing that can be done. As for the exercise thing, just do what you can do. Your body and mind will reward you not for the amount, but for the quality of effort.
 
Yes I and many others have fully recovered. One thing to keep in mind is that when people recover they move on and have no reason to be on BL anymore. You only see the posts from people who are still working through their issues.

Crashing offers some very good advice. Don't freak yourself out by reading too much into things. Pick yourself up and carry on.
 
I've taken MDMA many times and have never felt a "letdown" period afterwards. If anything, I felt spiritually renewed. Sometimes I wonder if this "letdown" period that some report after MDMA doesn't have more to do with staying up all night and missing sleep than it actually has to do with MDMA. I know that MDMA affects serotonin levels short-term, but so does lack of sleep.

I agree that people are too quick to attribute a "comedown" feeling to the MDMA. If you're feeling anxiety, it could be caused by other things. After all, MDMA is used in therapy to TREAT depression and anxiety, etc. I come from a background of using MDMA in psychotherapy, so I can personally attest to the sense of "spiritual renewal". MDMA can be a very sacred experience, if used properly.

I know so many people who have done MDMA hundreds of times and never had a problem with any kind of "letdown" period. I agree with just moving forward in life and not getting freaked out about any stories you might read on the Internet. You never know what else might be going on in those peoples' lives.
 
I definitely felt a bit.... drained would be a good word in the days afterwards, but never to the point where I would consider it anything more than my body catching up with me. It shouldn't take 8 months to catch up to you though...
 
Eva 33 said:
I agree that people are too quick to attribute a "comedown" feeling to the MDMA. If you're feeling anxiety, it could be caused by other things.
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Well it's kind of a coincidence that before taking mdma, I was perfectly fine, and then a week later I was living in a nightmare. There's a physiological explanation for it. I was talking to my psych professor about it, a really brilliant guy, who has done extensive research on artificial seratonin stimulation. He told me that in a lot of cases nowadays, people take drugs that target the 5-HT system and it ends up messing them up. Not in the sense that it brings out an underlying problem, or that the problem is caused by low seratonin levels (because they replenish in about 3 months). He said that it's the fact that when taking the drug, some people's brains are just a lot more sensitive than others' and their seratonin receptors are traumatized by the experience and duck back into the brain until they know that it is safe to come back out. the brain has a pretty neat defense system if you ask me. He told me that the best thing to do is to lead a healthy life, revolving around brain health and endorphin release and i should get better eventually.
 
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From what I remember since I joined there were never all these bad threads. But back then you could get pills and they were always good no bad effects afterwards with the dickheads I was taking em with. It's 2013 so many RC's are baround & people think what they have is MDMA. And through the yrs I & other fuckwits I met along the way took our fair amount til they diedaround 98... Those bloody calabrians lol. Once again who knows what your taking ? Maybe 2-ethylcycloaxanone43-methphenyl?
 
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It's mostly a mental thing. You have felt very good on MDMA... Your mind doesn't see what's real... It wonders off causing anxiety. It's hard to overcome. If having anxiety issues, you need to try blocking every thought coming in. Keep your mind blank, don't stop until you are totally clear. You need to tell yourself what's real compared to your mind knowing what it's like to be on MDMA. Block that out. You win. PM me, I'm struggling with stuff also, we can win the war together.
 
its been 2 years haha and i still have loose screws from my rolling days. one pupil bigger than the other. mild anxiety. i see floating little spots. i just was a really dumb kid and would mix and insuffilate different research chemicals with a temporary group of friends. not going to lie i had some fun times though. i just wish i went lighter and slower cause i would still be able to enjoy them to this day.
 
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