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Has an evolution of consciousness occurred?

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derekseyes

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A few people on here are referring to a way of seeing that transcends the old paradigms. Central to it appears to be the experience of an omen, or a revelation involving the number 3. The use of DMT is mentioned frequently, as well as a state of consciousness beyond the enlightenment of meditation.

Does that ring true for other people?
 
derekseyes said:
A few people on here are referring to a way of seeing that transcends the old paradigms.
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What are you trying to say here? This is quite vague like the rest of your post. Why is the "experience of an omen, or a revelation involving the number 3" central to this new way of "seeing"? What does "seeing" even mean in this context? Explain yourself better and you might find the responses you are looking for.
 
CrackAndScrabble said:
What are you trying to say here? This is quite vague like the rest of your post. Why is the "experience of an omen, or a revelation involving the number 3" central to this new way of "seeing"? What does "seeing" even mean in this context? Explain yourself better and you might find the responses you are looking for.
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I'm not exactly sure. I read on here that someone was holding 3 babies and felt that it was an omen, then someone else was predicting the future. I don't know, it looked like some people felt a supernatural occurrence happening. Some sort of evolution to a new state of consciousness, beyond that of opening the third eye. Does that sound right, or dumb?
 
So do I. I'll try to bring this back on track after your trolling attempt, because I was actually trying to make a very serious point. It is related to something that I read in another thread on here. It is that a person can hold an infinite number of logical viewpoints simultaneously. I don't understand quite how that works, but I think that I'm beginning to see that it is to do with the balance between knowledge and belief.
What I wonder is whether the idea of enlightenment through meditation, or seeing with a third eye, is actually surpassed by this method. Meditation seems very unidimentional and self-confirming in that a person can even reach such an unquestioned state. To me, that seems like self-delusion. The philosophy proposed holds no fixed beliefs, but still shares the same observable, unchanging facts. I wonder if out of this there is some relation to the Central American concept of time as an imposed order, and the idea of time cycles may actually be a real phenomenon, permitting a greater view of reality. Of course, that's where the reference to DMT comes in, and the understanding of reality that was gained through it's use in ayahuasca. I don't think hat this is an unreasonable point to be making, and I hope it is taken seriously. Recently, and especially on here, I have seen this to be a valid concept, unlocking the door to a wider and deeper understanding of consciousness. The limited nature of communication through written or spoken language is also mentioned in another thread, and it appeared to me that it was possible that this dualistic philosophy could produce a greater mental-well being for everyone; especially over other philosophies that allow for right or wrong interpretations of opinion and sanity/insanity categorizations. In short, an inclusive acceptance of all opinion may reveal underlying structures of reality that we have been separated from, simply through our language-based thinking.
 
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What country are you from?

I've heard numerous friends discuss an evolution of consciousness this past year. I live in the US and when I look around I see 0 evidence of any such thing.
 
Not everyone has to accept a philosophy universally. Why would there be a country wide change? People who convert to Buddhism undergo a change of consciousness, but it is through choice, rather than a force of nature. I live in the US as well, but I am from Guatemala originally.
 
Has it occurred? Who knows? If someone had we would deem them crazy. I think it's possible... I believe the ego is a new state of consciousness. I believe seeing things in 2D rather than 3D is regression in consciousness. I believe it's possible to see a 4th and 5th dimension, but we wouldn't know what that looks like so we wouldn't be able to recognize it if we were to evolve. Consciousness is just the ability to recieve/send vibrations from/to the environment around us in the now. If consciousness is pivotal upon the environment, i believe that "consciousness" and dimensions are connected. Famous physicist michio kaku is claiming there may be up to 11 dimensions. To see an extra dimension would be to be able to pick up the ability to sense more vibrations from around us. I read we can currently only sense 1% of the electromagnetic spectrum and 1% of the acoustic spectrum. It must be possible to evolve to a point where we can sense more, right?
 
Could it occur if no-one said it occurred? Maybe by saying that it has occurred has made people believe that it might have occurred? But there is also ambiguity as to whether I believe it has occurred or not. Other people believing me, gives me a reason to believe me, yet I was unsure to begin with, and that's why I asked. This is getting confusing. I can type more of this, but I suppose Bluelight is averse to such circular discussions. I'm no sure that one has occurred after all now. Maybe I was reading too much into what I read?
 
Pindar said:
Terence McKenna suggested that the evolution from Homo erectus to Homo Sapiens was aided by adding psilocin as a diet, since it causes an increase in visual acuity, empathy and sexual expression, linguistic ability and provided Man's first religious experiences. As for written historical proof for the "evolution of consciousness" can be found in the East by the Upanishads and in the West through, in my opinion, the Hermetic tradition that culminated in Hegel in "The Science of Logic" where consciousness is overcome when self-awareness dissolves the division between subject and object. I can type more of this, but I suppose Bluelight is averse to such discussions.

So according to McKenna, take psilocin-containing substances (Psilocybin/4-AcO-DMT) on a daily basis and tell us what happens.
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You could use that for a lot of things that have changed in human diet worldwide, but talking about compounds found in psychedelic substances sort of poses a rhetorical question [is a mind altering substance going to alter my mind?].. I can't vouch for McKenna with that point, but to look at how much more diverse nutrition [in developed countries] has led to an astoundingly horrifying burst of biological change is pretty great. I think these bubbles of health and vaccines through history lends to the evolution of consciousness.
But to stay on track with where McKenna was going, globalization may be a much more valid concept to use in support of evolution of consciousness...cuz there's material and immaterial evidence.
 
The more that I think about, I believe that the idea of any sort of evolution in consciousness is really a form of self delusion. All alterations of consciousness are a personal, rather than societal change. What defines an evolution is simply the interpretation of the society. One society's evolution is another society's de-evolution, so the idea in itself is against the central philosophy proposed.
 
derekseyes said:
The more that I think about, I believe that the idea of any sort of evolution in consciousness is really a form of self delusion. All alterations of consciousness are a personal, rather than societal change. What defines an evolution is simply the interpretation of the society. One society's evolution is another society's de-evolution, so the idea in itself is against the central philosophy proposed.
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Yes but no. Just because another country sees our heroes as terrorists/evil, doesn't remove the existence of heroes. Someone else's interpretation of consciousness does not negate the possibility of an evolution of consciousness. This thread is not about a collective evolution of consciousness (i dont believe so), so all that matters is your perception and if that radically changes for (in your eyes) the better.
 
"has occurred" ?

no, "has been occurring"
and we're still at the beginning
 
I'm not sure I fully understand your question but I do believe an evolution of consciousness has been occurring and is happening right now. I agree with Vegan, it's still just beginning. We're leaving the piscean age and entering the aquarian age, which, if you believe in astrology, is powerful. The aquarian age is bringing a new level of consciousness and a new way of thinking... something humanity desparately needs.
 
derekseyes said:
A few people on here are referring to a way of seeing that transcends the old paradigms. Central to it appears to be the experience of an omen, or a revelation involving the number 3. The use of DMT is mentioned frequently, as well as a state of consciousness beyond the enlightenment of meditation.
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Maybe you do think that, I agree.
 
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