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harmaline hcl and dosing as well as second question regarding opiates in conjuntion

mindash

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SWIM was asking me if i could help them acquire knowledge as to the sublingual and oral doses needed in regards to harmaline to cause effects solely on its own. would anyone happen to know how much is needed and in regards to the sublingual route most importantly, how long would it be necessary to keep it under Swim's tongue without swallowing for maximum results? on a secondary note, SWIM also informed me to ask what sort of effect Harmaline hcl might have in conjunction while under the influence of Poppy Pod Tea, all the info SWIM and myself have come across so far for our academic studies says that RIMA MAO-I's have either no effect on classic opiates or that they indeed potentiate them some but are relatively safe to use in conjunction with each other. thank you in advance for any insight any of you may have to offer

MindASH,

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Shall
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First off...Please do not swim here.. This is not a pool or the beach.. Read the BLUA.

I could be wrong, but I don't think it's safe to mix MAOIs with opiates
 
gotcha, i hate swimming personally i think i got messed up reading another foum i just signed up fors policy so no prob on not using such terms.
as far as opiates and maoi's go every thing ive found on them says there's no real danger aside from anything that might come from potentiation and any real danger's insofar that ive read over regarding the combination of the 2 are mainly geared towards those who are opiate naive (aside from demerol and propoxypehene which are both heavily contradicted with MAOI's for reasons aside being opiates. many seem to be prescribed full on MAOI's along with suboxone without any real major effects other than heavier sedation. but as i stated im getting mixed results in my search for any concrete info here and personally im more interested in sublingual doses of harmaline for threshold effects on its own. i tried 20mg sublingual last night before bed and noticed nothing aside from the fact that i slept very well and my dreams were a bit more vivid(i had the remnants of poppy pod tea alkaloid's still floating in my system from about 8 hours earlier that day with no negative effects what so ever). but thanks for mentioning that as maoi's even the sub classed RIMA's are definitely not something anyone should experiment with for the sole purpose of potentiating any drugs other than tryptamines. but my questions still stand. anyone care to add to this?
 
still can't find any information...

well i've asked this on 5 or 6 different forums now and have yet to get a response with any useful information, the only info i keep recieving is in conjunction with DMT and this is not what im asking so please if anyone out there knows anything about harmaline as a singular tool used for visionary purposes please fill me in thanks
 
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