morphonorconic
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I'm wondering if anyone has ever experienced any significant hallucination or visual distortion when using opiates/opioids? (There was fairly dated thread with a similar topic in the Neuroscience Forum, but it was old and, for lack of a better description, convoluted)
Although I'm curious and open to hearing about any type of hallucinogenic activity, my question is geared more towards closed eye visuals rather than open eye visuals. In the past I've had minor, very indistinct and unremarkable CEV's when using larger doses of various opioids, especially the natural and semi-synthetic opiates like morphine and codeine, and dihydrocodeine, hydro/oxy-codone, and hydro/oxy-morphone, respectively. Poppy pod tea produced what I'd consider the most noteworthy activity.
With that said, I recently injected a moderate dose (five bags) of extremely potent heroin. After being completely incapacitated for several minutes, I closed my eyes and was astonished by the extraordinary patterns I was seeing. Incredible and unbelievably intricate fractals that moved and changed rapidly- spinning, expanding, pulsating with infinite depth... As with most psychedelics, it is very difficult to explain, and words hardly do it any justice.
What I experienced was not at all unlike the CEV's I've known in the past with LSD, Psilocybin, etc. And especially DMT. Also, the speed at which these patterns moved and evolved was very similar to the visual distortions I've had when using nitrous oxide. I've never thought much about the hallucinogenic properties of opioids; I always just kind of wrote it off as being a temporary and uninteresting side effect- certainly not anything worth mentioning. And though I don't think this is something anyone would or should go out of their way to achieve, it was however so undeniably evident that it made me decide to raise the question of whether or not this is a rare and/or isolated phenomenon, or if it's something others have experienced, and considered to be notable as well.
Although I'm curious and open to hearing about any type of hallucinogenic activity, my question is geared more towards closed eye visuals rather than open eye visuals. In the past I've had minor, very indistinct and unremarkable CEV's when using larger doses of various opioids, especially the natural and semi-synthetic opiates like morphine and codeine, and dihydrocodeine, hydro/oxy-codone, and hydro/oxy-morphone, respectively. Poppy pod tea produced what I'd consider the most noteworthy activity.
With that said, I recently injected a moderate dose (five bags) of extremely potent heroin. After being completely incapacitated for several minutes, I closed my eyes and was astonished by the extraordinary patterns I was seeing. Incredible and unbelievably intricate fractals that moved and changed rapidly- spinning, expanding, pulsating with infinite depth... As with most psychedelics, it is very difficult to explain, and words hardly do it any justice.
What I experienced was not at all unlike the CEV's I've known in the past with LSD, Psilocybin, etc. And especially DMT. Also, the speed at which these patterns moved and evolved was very similar to the visual distortions I've had when using nitrous oxide. I've never thought much about the hallucinogenic properties of opioids; I always just kind of wrote it off as being a temporary and uninteresting side effect- certainly not anything worth mentioning. And though I don't think this is something anyone would or should go out of their way to achieve, it was however so undeniably evident that it made me decide to raise the question of whether or not this is a rare and/or isolated phenomenon, or if it's something others have experienced, and considered to be notable as well.