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Hallucinogen with no mind f**k

I would say LSD, as it is an easy trip to turn around from a "bad" trip. Plants are often a bit more fickle and can take a bit of a more dominant role in guiding you through the trip rather than giving you the control for yourself. However, it is important to keep in mind that a "bad" or chaotic trip is one where you can gain the most knowledge of yourself and the world, vulnerabilities ect, so that you can come up with a way to resolve said issues.

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First of all, hallucinogen or psychedelic? I don't really consider LSD a hallucinogen (except arguably at dissociative, ego-death doses). Datura is a hallucinogen.

However, I think 2C-I would fit the profile here. I felt next to NO mental psychedelic effects; just saw very impressive visuals highly reminiscent of LSD. It was just a fireworks display, otherwise I felt almost sober, bodyload notwithstanding. No "mindfuck" at all - not even a mind tickle.
 
Psychonauticunt said:
First of all, hallucinogen or psychedelic? I don't really consider LSD a hallucinogen (except arguably at dissociative, ego-death doses). Datura is a hallucinogen.
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Despite the fact that such definitions were once true, the language used for classification has evolved.

True hallucinogens are referred to as deliriants, and most psychedelics are referred to as hallucinogens.

Linguistic ambiguity strikes again!
 
Psychonauticunt said:
However, I think 2C-I would fit the profile here. I felt next to NO mental psychedelic effects; just saw very impressive visuals highly reminiscent of LSD. It was just a fireworks display, otherwise I felt almost sober, bodyload notwithstanding. No "mindfuck" at all - not even a mind tickle.
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I just gotta be contrary here. While some people may agree with your description of 2C-I as being "just a fireworks display", my friend felt that 22mg of 2C-I was certainly as powerful a mindbending tool as mushrooms or LSD. He encountered a spirit animal on that trip, and fought with himself and his father on his inner journey.
 
^Yes, of course, everyone's mileage will vary on everything. There are no guarantees and anyone would be a fool to presume total absolute universal truth in ANY words posted by anyone anywhere.

That said, your friend's reaction is quite unusual... is he perhaps fairly new to tripping? Was this perhaps his strongest trip so far? Just the novelty on its own can indeed trigger higher-than-typical psychological effects on ANYTHING, even just caffeine pills.

However, the vast majority of reports I've read on the net as well as direct reports from people I know personally who've done it, even those new to tripping, are that 2C-I is absolutely among the clearest-minded least-mindfucky psychedelics there is.
 
I wouldn't bother with psychedelics if you don't want the head fuck, only ones i can recommend that i can guarantee wont is AMT and that is referring from personally experience and myself i always on every 2c family trip, lsd, mxe etc i always get a full on mind fuck and ego lose not that there all meant to do this :P from start to finish and even after the drugs wear off from 1 day up to 7 days, not that this will happen to use because i know im a very rare case.
 
Psychonauticunt said:
First of all, hallucinogen or psychedelic? I don't really consider LSD a hallucinogen (except arguably at dissociative, ego-death doses). Datura is a hallucinogen.

However, I think 2C-I would fit the profile here. I felt next to NO mental psychedelic effects; just saw very impressive visuals highly reminiscent of LSD. It was just a fireworks display, otherwise I felt almost sober, bodyload notwithstanding. No "mindfuck" at all - not even a mind tickle.
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Just noticed this after my reply, done 2CI alot and everytime ive had the most intense spiritual and life changing experiences from 10mg each time. For alot of my friends its just been too much seen so many of them say there dead at raves not always a good thing either! 2CI is defently not for the faint hearted espically mind wise.
 
Excellent. I was assuming everyone reading this had enough brains to know that my experience is not the same as a detailed profile on the chemical effects of said drug on humans. My faith in humanity and junkies is elevated once more.:D

EDIT: I sampled 2C-I at 15-28mg orally, never with psychedelic, mind-manifesting effects.
 
Dannygauge said:
Just noticed this after my reply, done 2CI alot and everytime ive had the most intense spiritual and life changing experiences from 10mg each time. For alot of my friends its just been too much seen so many of them say there dead at raves not always a good thing either! 2CI is defently not for the faint hearted espically mind wise.
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I'm gonna say from the description you have probably been sold some garbage that is NOT real 2C-I.

10mg is almost always fairly mild. Unless your "many friends" are also on MAO drugs or other things. If "many" of your friends have said 10mg of whatever they did made them feel "dead at a rave" well, this is the TOTAL opposite of what even a strong dose of 2C-I does, let alone a low-level 10mg dose... absolutely no 2 ways about it.

You must have been ripped off man, that in NO WAY fits the profile of genuine 2C-I. Yea yea blah blah everyone reacts differently (lets just add that as a fixed banner at the top of every post, its so annoying to be getting told that CONSTANTLY here... yeah yeah WE KNOW THAT ALREADY WE ARE NOT 5 years old!)

But so anyway, 10mg = "feel dead at raves"??? WTF???!!! No way not even close. Something is wrong with your stuff.
 
Been away for a while. kind of forgot bout bluelight. I have done my research and what seems to be the best psychedelic for me would be a legal one at that... Amanita Muscaria which is described as a deliriant.. but from my testings this has had the best and most profound ego softening and euphoria out of the pychs I have sampled since the beginning of this Thread.
 
Yeah you took too much and 2C-E can be very deep for a 2C. You dove in too fast with the wrong drug. 2C-E is meant for when you learn how to navigate deep trips.

I agree with the 2C-C suggestion, but with 2C-D as well but you need pretty high doses because its not potent.
2C-B is also not known for causing distress or confusion IF the proper build up for the correct dosage tests are done right.
4-HO-DiPT was surprising for me: felt even easier and lighter than any phenethylamine.
 
Why bother taking psychedelics if you just want a nice non mind fuck high... stick to pills or w/e.
 
p0ly said:
Why bother taking psychedelics if you just want a nice non mind fuck high... stick to pills or w/e.
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Some people like just the visuals... nothing wrong with that.

25I-NBOME actually has no mind fuck for me, and I was very surprised at that. It still has the 2C body load I've come to expect, and the visuals aren't as intense as acid/shrooms/2C-E/2C-T-2 but definitely has more visuals than 2C-I.

I'll completely forget I'm tripping if it weren't for the visuals randomly occurring while I'm playing a game (like Diablo III :D) or the background body load.

Irritates me because I wanted acid and all I can find right now is 25I :/
 
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