Hallucinating visual words and phrases on drugs

[Feste]

I've gotten it a few times on mushrooms. Looks like a cross between hieroglyphics & something else. Of course it's always moving & shifting so I can't really pin point what they look like exactly.

 

[Venrak]

Salvia invariably has this as an aspect to the experience for me;I'm always becoming letters at some point in the experience. Somewhat similar.

I was once a part of the word "Everything".

I was the dot on the i


Should write a TR.....

 

[Solipsis]

Yes!
On higher doses of LSD on a remarkable number of occasions I started to perceive symbols in everything, like instead of leaves letters and numbers were hanging from trees and so on. Then these symbols became more and more symbolic, transcending ordinary spoken or written language and becoming impossible to pronounce, looking alien. Then even a level above that the matrix effect pours in, where every object, the walls, people, everything is built of values, symbols, a complex construct of static patterns undergoing change due to dynamic forces. Language, especially that of physics and mathematics is fundamental to everything, better yet everything is made out of values.

I am totally behind Robert Persig and his Metaphysics of Quality on that one. It explains the problems between science and religion and anthropology and the conflict arising from a subject-object metaphysics.

The hallucination of symbols as they become tangible in your vision totally fits in that perspective.

 

[SizzleSword]

For some reason, I get this a lot on 2C-E. Almost every time it occurs, the phrase that I see is "I love paste". At times it seems like this phrase goes onto to say other stuff, but I can never tell what the rest says. When I try not to let my eyes focus so that I can see the rest of what it says, I see that it's just "I love paste I love paste I love paste". I think it's strange that this has occured more than 5 times on 2C-E, each time it being the same phrase.

 

[psood0nym]

I have been trying to replicate the phenomena ever since it first happened to me. So far no luck, but I suspect if I am trying to force it I won't have much success. I don't know what the source of the communication was, only that it the word I read seemed indeed to be a message of advice directly relating to the situation I was in at that moment. It seemed like communication to me. Where it came from, there's no evidence to suggest any source yet in my opinion. It's actually the exact reason I asked this same question on another forum. I wanted to know if others' experience mirror my own, and if so, to try and see what similarities and differences were apparent to try to understand what might be happening. I am definitely interested to see where this thread goes and what other accounts people might have to add...

I've tried asking for words or symbols to appear in the hopes of opening a dialogue with the subconscious aspects of myself but haven't had much luck. I've found their is great pleasure and knowledge to be gained from consciously cultivating communications with other parts of myself. Anything that enriches that dialogue expands and unifies our awareness, so I'm always on the look out for new ways of initiating it. My approach has been similar to the one I take with dreams, in that I meditate on a question before sleep and often the answer is rendered in novel and revealing ways during the night. Psychedelic experiences tend to be more wiley and interested in doing their own things. I'll keep trying though.

Solipsis: what do you recommend as a good place to start with Robert Persig? Is Metaphysics of Quality something that someone with a moderate knowledge of philosophy -- as it pertains to the study of qualia and the explication of the concept of properties -- can jump right into, or not?

 

[SKL]

I've gotten it many times, especially in textures like sand, or in CEV's on higher dose LSD especially. Never can I really pick up on coherent things that are written, but it takes on the appearance of language... reminds me of the trippy Voynich manuscript ...

... nobody knows what the text is but it has characteristics that suggest that it is written language! And it has all sorts of drawings of plants, life forms, and crazy structures ...

 

[ABCDFG I Ate The E]

On 1000mg dxm I somehow passed out and woke up when I was peaking and hallucinated snoopy the dog right in front of my face.. Followed by a paragraph of text from a website I go on

 

[Solipsis]

sorry, off-topic but i really wanna answer psood0

Solipsis: what do you recommend as a good place to start with Robert Persig? Is Metaphysics of Quality something that someone with a moderate knowledge of philosophy -- as it pertains to the study of qualia and the explication of the concept of properties -- can jump right into, or not?

Definitely, his books are very readable - at least to me they are. I know your posts and I'm pretty certain you won't have too much problems understanding his theories.

It's not like the quicksandy language of Foucault or the condensed intricate logic of Kant. Pirsig presents his ideas relating to understandable, even mundane parts of human experience and extends his brilliant metaphysics to perennial questions.
Just read them in order: first Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance and then Lila.
There is secondary literature on the MOQ and there is also a whole online movement arisen, like the Lila Squad IIRC.

Haha, a couple days back I was reading Lila again at the trainstation while waiting and an elderly woman came up to me and peeked at the cover, probably seeing the author's name.
"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance?", she asked... I replied: No, Lila.
She told me her coworkers said about Zen & taomm: Oh that oldie... but that it was her favorite book and in her opinion not old that all - obviously because of the so-called perennial philosophy in it. She, like me, admired the brilliance of the mind expressed in it. I agree, its timeless.

And honestly I have never found anything like it that dissolves object-subject metaphysics like that, explains the gap between mind and matter or the question of free will vs determinism. In PD you see a lot of confusion revolving such questions, and I have also seen it much in friends who are deeply involved in philosophy.
I have also known a group or movement of young people who experimented a lot with psychedelics and other things and saw Pirsigs work as the reference book.

Its probably mainly because our culture has integrated another kind of metaphysics that seemed right at the time, that we have such a hard time changing that. I wonder if we can escape it in time, or place it in perspective, especially in the West.

I recommend it to everyone who feels up for it. It blows my mind and some parts of the books have given me an instant ++++

 

[phatass]

i've had a slightly different experience also involving words on 2C-I... when people would talk, there were colours coming out of their mouth for each word... very trippy

 

[KCD]

i dont really understand what your talkin about i tripped on shrooms one time and freaked out hahhhaha it was harsh but the sidewalk kept spelling pig idk y like the grins of the side walk would just keep sayin pig, and this big ass red shadow came over my whole world it was fuckin nuts

 

[Roger&Me]

The phenomenon of text hallucination was recently covered in-depth by writer and neurologist Oliver Sacks, in the latest issue of The New Yorker in an article about a man with alexia.

Oliver Sacks, A Neurologist’s Notebook, “A Man of Letters,” The New Yorker, June 28, 2010, p. 22

Abstract:

A NEUROLOGIST’S NOTEBOOK about a man suffering from alexia, an inability to recognize written language. In January of 2002, Canadian novelist Howard Engel sent the writer a letter about his experience with alexia sine agraphia, a form of visual agnosia which results in an inability to recognize written language. On the morning of July 31, 2001, Engel awoke and discovered that he could not read the newspaper. His room looked normal, and he could still read his clock, but his books were all unintelligible, all full of the same “Oriental”-looking script. At the hospital, it was determined that he had had a stroke which had affected a limited area of the visual parts of the brain, on the left side. He spent the next week in the neurology ward at Toronto’s Mount Sina Hospital. He also had difficulties recognizing colors, faces, and everyday objects, yet he was surprised to find that he could still write. Describes the medical history of alexia. Mentions French neurologist Joseph Jules Dejerine, Stanislas Dehaene, and Charles Scribner, Jr. Two months after his stroke, Engel had moved to a milder form of alexia. He would slowly and laboriously puzzle out words, letter by letter. Whatever language a person is reading, the same area of inferotemporal cortex, the visual word form area, is activated. Why should all human beings have this built-in facility for reading when writing is a relatively recent cultural invention? We might call this the Wallace problem, for Alfred Russel Wallace, who discovered natural selection independent of Charles Darwin. Mark Changizi and his colleagues at Caltech examined more than a hundred ancient and modern writing systems. They have shown that all of them, while geometrically very different, share certain basic topological similarities. Writing, a cultural tool, has evolved to make use of the inferotemporal neurons’ preference for certain shapes. The origin of writing and reading cannot be understood as a direct evolutionary adaptation. It is dependent on the plasticity of the brain, and on the fact that experience is as powerful an agent of change as natural selection. We are literate not by virtue of a divine intervention but through a cultural invention and a cultural selection that make a creative new use of a preëxisting neural proclivity. While Howard was still in the rehab hospital, he began keeping a “memory book,” to record his thoughts. More than three months after his stroke, he returned home and decided to write a new novel, “Memory Book,” which was published in 2005. It was followed by a memoir, “The Man Who Forgot How to Read,” which came out in 2007.
Source

 

[bluemanthief]

i have experienced "symbols" as well while on an eighth of mushrooms. They were all over my arms. It was weird, glad i ain't the only one haha

 

[Ramirez]

I'm feeling kind of....JUICY

I've seen symbols occur, mainly on shrooms. I think the one I remember most is the pentagram. But at the time, I thought it was because I had repeatedly drawn one on my ceiling with a laser pointer. It's strange, because I was able to hallucinate it far better than I could draw it.

 

[johnnyu]

spoken words in head/ear

well, I dunno if this fits, but I got a soft female voice asking me if I was alright during a drunk and salvia hit in a dark otherwise quiet room. I was stunned tha I got something to ask me anything. I wasnt even trying for that.

Can someone please pm me the quickest dmt obtainment method though. I want to go up a notch on this and more.

 

[CatfishRivers]

The voices and weird shared experiences from salvia are a whole other phenomena, but definitely related I guess. It's uncanny how many people experience them, and often times similarly. I once heard a female voice hours after a salvia experience, while getting ready to go to bed. Clear as day and out of nowhere I hear a female voice say "to the left". It scared the shit out of me and I jumped into my bed and hid under the covers and pillows sorta hyperventilated a bit lol. Later that night, after I was calmer and getting ready to go to bed again, I randomly flipped through a book for a phrase to think about as I went to bed, I put my finger on the phrase "to the left". I shat a mind brick at that moment. What a strange coincidence right, and then to type it into the internet and find out that so many other people have experienced not only the female voice from salvia, but the whole "to the left" meme. It's kookoo for sure, and maybe related to seeing visual text. I guess if our brains were communicating with us in novel ways, using our ability to understand text or hear voices as a feedback system for the body. That'd be pretty wicked. Being able to send and receive feedback texts from your body. True biofeedback!

 

[psood0nym]

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ThAtz liek wikeD aWesoMe doodZ!!! LoL

 

[ikkyu]

Cool. I should have asked the inverse question too; does anyone NEVER get this?

I hardly ever see words written in English that are intelligible to me. I do, however, often have visions of petroglyphs and hieroglyphs (not any that I've seen before, and usually embedded in patterned surfaces such as carpets), all of which overflow with meaning but none which I can translate into English. In fact, I'd say this is the most common OEV I get, and one of the first ones I notice while coming up (especially on 2C-X compounds).

On higher doses of any compound I tend to hear words in various languages (sometimes English) all muddled together.

 

[LysergicEpiphany]

I get Glyphs when I comebine high doses of LSD with 2C-X compounds and also closed eye flashes of words like rave and love when I take .3+ of MDMA

 

[eatcod]

Sleep deprivation, lots of MDMA, MDAI and maybe 10mg of 2C-D gave rise to some crazy effects in this vein for me recently while partying in a field.

I could clearly read the letters 'ATD' and the word 'OILS' in the burning embers of the fire.

Whenever I closed my eyes, I'd instantly be browsing a live, constantly updating version of the websites I usually kill time on.. all with totally plausible thread titles, Facebook statuses etc... I guess in this case a sort of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia#Tetris_effect !

 

[CatfishRivers]

for some reason wanted to know what the ATD meant in your vision...as I hunted for clues on the internet I found it is the initials of the book, Against the Day by Thomas Pynchon... and when I looked it up on wikipedia, there is an interesting blurb about the meaning of the title of the book:

Besides appearing within the book itself, the novel's title apparently refers to a verse in the Bible (2 Peter 3:7) reading "the heavens and the earth ... [are] reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."

Just thought that was kinda freaky since you also saw the words OILS, with all the war going on over oil in the Middle East, and not to mention the oil spills too.

eep