Hallucinating on E?

[hippie23]

trust me...
MDMA is not at all labeled under the hallucinogen column.
but there are other mixtures, yes like MDA, that dont cause hallucinogens, but cause over-stimulating of the brain, and produce more and more of what you might be leading yourself to think you see. there have been a ton of reports upon the use of MDMA, and how it effects the brain. in long terms, ecsatsy is probably the worst drug you could be taking, besides crystal meth. its effects arent as physical as they are emotional. youll end up a real bitch if u pop pills every weekend. trust me, i know, and it took me nearly a year n a half of full recovery to where i could finally start thinking again, and to where i actually was able to fall asleep before 1 am, and actually have dreams that i could remember.
a lot like with acid, if u do enough, ull pretty much be out of your body, if u know wat i mean, and the same thing goes for MDMA, only you need much more of a dosage for you to lose thought of actions. pure MDMA, which by the way kicks ecstasy's ass out of the water, supposesdly does more damage on the brain than a normal 2 blotter hit.
it interesting stuff to read about. check it out on google. but yes, MDMA is NOT a hallucinogen, i promise that to you. mixtures of MDA with MDMA will not cause hallucinogens. the MDA is that drug that causes the euphoria and tingling. the MDMA is more of the whole "feeling" if you see what im saying. i just took 8 green naked ladies ast night, which werent as i had hoped theyd be.
they didnt really hit hard, just kinda rolled up, and there never seemed to be an actual peak on the drug, it just seemed to roll around, where id be trippin, then all of a sudden i'd start to feel like i was having a comedown, hella early, but then it would spike back up again.

here are a few amazing tips for trips that ive tried:
while on E: swinging on swings, playing tag, skateboarding (hella crazy ass trip...itll literally knock you on your ass.), getting massages (only by someone hella good at it), lightshows, but make sure the person knows the tricks; such as speeding up and slowing down, knowing the song ahead of time, etc. , listening to psychadelic music like Black Moth Super Rainbow. serisouly one of the best bands for trippin i think ive ever heard of. you should check em out. period.

 

[nikol]

trust me...
MDMA is not at all labeled under the hallucinogen column.

I don’t necessarily see where you are going with this… yes, the normal classification for MDMA and related chemicals is entactogen or empathogen, but that doesn’t disqualify it from having aspects of a hallucinogen- I know more than a few people who have had visual disturbances and even outright hallucinations on opiates- but do we consider them such? That’s because trying to pin down MDMA into a specific category like that is too hard- because it does have a large number of different impacts upon the mind and psyche. Psychedelic is my preferred classification for MDMA, and it isn’t any more right or wrong than the others. It just shows what aspect of the drug I find the most important/noticeable/etc. For some people, yes, MDMA is a hallucinogen. Even if that is not the primary aspect of the drug, it is still one that is noticeable by more than a few people.

but there are other mixtures, yes like MDA, that dont cause hallucinogens, but cause over-stimulating of the brain, and produce more and more of what you might be leading yourself to think you see.

Where do you draw a distinction between “hallucinating” and “over-stimulation of the brain”? Generally the latter is a prerequisite for the former.

there have been a ton of reports upon the use of MDMA, and how it effects the brain. in long terms, ecsatsy is probably the worst drug you could be taking, besides crystal meth. its effects arent as physical as they are emotional.

What are these negative emotional side effects? And how are they any different that the mental issues that surround abusers (or users) of any other drug? Any drug has ability to create negative side effects and consequences if treated improperly...

youll end up a real bitch if u pop pills every weekend. trust me, i know, and it took me nearly a year n a half of full recovery to where i could finally start thinking again, and to where i actually was able to fall asleep before 1 am, and actually have dreams that i could remember.

…and this proves my point here. Taking pills once a week for god knows how long (especially given that your odds of having pure pills every time are very low and the fact that you make no distinction between just “pills” and MDMA) is very definitely borderlining abuse. At the very least it’s rather irresponsible- who knows how many different chemicals you have ingested in these “ecstasy” pills? (And trust me, I’ve been there. You don’t spend almost $600 in 3 ½ months and put yourself almost $500 dollars while chasing the magic without learning a thing or two about shitty pills in the process. Looking back on it, I can count on one hand the number of times I had real MDMA- and I’m still seeing the ramifications to this day of the damage I did to my body during that binge.)

a lot like with acid, if u do enough, ull pretty much be out of your body, if u know wat i mean, and the same thing goes for MDMA, only you need much more of a dosage for you to lose thought of actions. pure MDMA, which by the way kicks ecstasy's ass out of the water, supposesdly does more damage on the brain than a normal 2 blotter hit.

How does it do more damage to the brain than LSD? And furthermore, what kind of brain damage are we talking here? MDMA has been shown to cause changes in the brain- whether or not this constitutes literal brain damage is still to be determined. Shulgin explains it best when he says that in general, one should not really exceed 5 or 6 experiences with MDMA in the upper limits- because after a certain point, the “magic” is lost, pretty much for good. But there is no evidence that this necessarily causes harm or injury- all they have really been able to conclude is that something is different; yet the full effects of this difference are still to be determined.

it interesting stuff to read about. check it out on google. but yes, MDMA is NOT a hallucinogen, i promise that to you. mixtures of MDA with MDMA will not cause hallucinogens. the MDA is that drug that causes the euphoria and tingling. the MDMA is more of the whole "feeling" if you see what im saying. i just took 8 green naked ladies ast night, which werent as i had hoped theyd be.

Ooook… not to be harsh, but saying that mixtures of MDA and MDMA will not cause hallucinations is completely false. MDA is a hallucinogen in its own right- specifically because it more potently active at the 5-HT2A receptors, giving it more psychedelic properties than MDMA. When you mix the two (and I have), they basically potentiate each other- thus leading to even more intense visual disturbance/halluncinations. Both drugs cause euphoria because they have the same mechanism for action with the serotonin receptors- they prohibit the re-uptake of serotonin, and they cause the release of stored serotonin as well. I don’t know what you’re saying with “MDMA is more of the whole “feeling””- feeling what? Euphoria? And what is the purpose of 8 pills in one night? MDMA is one of those drugs that has a “sweet spot”- and it’s generally about 100-125 mg. Even if the pills did contain MDMA, it would have to be a very small amount to warrant taking that many (again, responsible drug usage)- you would definitely be setting yourself up for an emergency room visit because of a heart attack or serotonin syndrome.

they didnt really hit hard, just kinda rolled up, and there never seemed to be an actual peak on the drug, it just seemed to roll around, where id be trippin, then all of a sudden i'd start to feel like i was having a comedown, hella early, but then it would spike back up again.

I believe that sensation is where the term “roll” first started (although I could be wrong completely. But I do know that you are NOT alone in associating that sensation with MDMA).

I guess the crux of my arguments is that "ecstasy" does not always mean MDMA- and that MDMA is a chemical that exists in its own right, with certain attributes and characteristics- psychedelic properties being just one of them.

And, to the OP (sorry for thread-jacking)- pills are not cut with acid- most of the time it's a research chemical. However, like I've said, you can't discount the fact that it may be an MDxx substance. I would say (outside of getting a testing kit) try to get ahold of some decent, clean pills- take one or two, without any other drugs (except maybe marijuana and cigarettes) and just familiarize yourself with how MDMA feels- like how after you've taken mushrooms a couple of time you know what to expect and how your body usually feels.

 

[Chicago66]

^Why even argue? That guy obviously has no idea what he's talking about.


If I'm not mistaken, some MDMA metabolizes into MDA when you take it.
MDA is hallucinatory, therefor you trip out on high enough doses of MDMA.

That's the only thing that would make sense to me.

 

[yumi]

I've had a few hallucinations on E. The first time ever hallucinating (and it was on my 3rd ever E roll) I had no clue what it was. I was with friends and we were looking for one of them who stepped away. I remember thinking the reason why I can't see people's faces is 'cuz it's dark. It finally dawned on me that I was hallucinating and it looked like people's heads had a big censor block on it. you know, like you'd see on TV when they block out people's private parts. I then saw glasses, beards and awesome tattoos on people. I thought it was hilarious. I also saw sparkles on the walls. It was fucken awesome!

ive had almost the same experience! had 1+half and it was prob my third time popping too and i was in a dark room with my partner and others. we were sitting on the bed and i saw the guy sitting in front of me having two faces.. at the front and the back of his head. lol. saw people wearing glasses of different shapes, see-through hands, people that were not there, moving tiles, etc. oh and the coolest thing was my partner and i had the same hallucination! we saw a girl standing at the door. i was describing everything i was seeing and he said he saw the same girl.

 

[Dalfir]

There're some capsules going around the Psytrance scene here with about half a tab of acid in quarters along with the MDMA.

 

[yumi]

haha we were pretty sure that girl didn't exist. i was the only girl at that time in the room!

 

[augustaB]

My partner hallucinates occasionally. Usually haloes and patterns around things.

 

[gloceaser]

I have had it where it seems like there are trees and such - kinda like patterns I guess. Just like if you were driving down a road under a tree arbor. And I sometimes see halos and such around lights and stuff. Gets kinda wacky if you have been up for a long long time as well.

 

[SaRz]

Ive had hallucinations a few times on E, but usually only when i snort 1 or two good pills, and the hallucinations arent more than wierd lighting effects/color changes/heat type distortion and such, pretty simple stuff, but i was staring at that shit for a good 7 minutes haha
i was tripped out the first time it happened

 

[Elevated]

Very subtle distortions and patterns.

For example, I was laying in bed and I noticed the designs on my bathroom door and the trim work were morphing a bit. It wasn't very strong but definitely noticeable.

I had something similar happen recently. I was looking in a mirror a bit after my comedown started and my face went from fine-detail to clay-like over and over.