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half a gram too much for mdma beginner?

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so it's my friends first time on tuesday and he's insisting I get him half a gram. Around here, a quarter gram seems to be the best 'starter' dose (which by most peoples standards is already a very high dose).

He says that because he has such a high tolerance to alcohol that he thinks he will do for Ecstasy as well. Made this thread basically to show him that (hopefully anyway) i'm not the only one who thinks half a gram is too much for a starter.
 
Tbf I think the MD isn't that great, my first time (it's always the same stuff) I took a quater at once and felt fine. Well I was rolling very hard but I was alright, the effects wore off after about 4 hours and I didn't get too bad a comedown.
 
It's obviously MDMA but I think the dealer said it's cut with something harmless, I can't remember what it was exactly.

It's probably just heavily cut, but It's my only source so what can you do.
 
Folley pretty much said it best.

If you gotta take half a gram to get going... you got some MD problems.
 
Not to encourage high doses, but the first time I took 500mg (spread over 5 hours) and felt great, the "if you take more you just get fucked more but no effects" only applies to me when I don't smoke weed, when I smoke weed and redose the feeling stays for soo long. Altough the explosive happiness fades after 5 hours (serotine gone I suppose) the feeling after can be great too, it just needs some steering.

And about first dose - we only have 200mg pills here, and first time users, or people who haven't done it in years, generally take a whole one and feel great (and they still redose 1-2 times) - I never saw anyone floored off 200mg, like everybody here claims.

Unless floored means feeling so good you're about to explode.
 
It depends on the purity firstly. If it is pure you will chew the sides of your mouth apart with that dosage on your first time. Half it and dose again after a couple of hours...im sure it will be fun. :)
 
I personally would take 100mg and wait to see how it was. I think if you took 250mg plus your gonna ruin the drug meaning everytime you will chase that initial high from MDMA and may never be able recreate it( of course this is just my opinion). I have had this happen to me with alot of drugs and it isn't a positive thing
 
Half a gram is too much for a new user. New comers to Ecstasy are usually after the loved up, cuddly, everything is AMAZING feeling which comes from a dose range between 90-150mgs (weight, body size depending).

After that range - your going to skip this stage and will be stuck to the floor, chewing your face off, feeling great but too much for a new experience and could be uncomfortable for a lot of people.

As a rule of thumb I would suggest 100/120mgs as a starter dose (more depending on body size etc).
 
Beginers need less because they haven't knacered there brains so it
Takes less for it to work

Do you .5g for a night or at once?
 
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Yes, it's too much. Tell your friend to do some research before he starts taking hard drugs. MDMA and alcohol have little or no cross tolerance, as far as I know.

If he has such a high alcohol tolerance... is he a binge drinker? Make sure he doesn't binge on MDMA.
 
Absolutely too much. I've seen people find as little as 110mg or so be too much their first time, especially if it's higher quality MDMA.

Also, someone's relative tolerance to alcohol does NOT translate into their MDMA tolerance.

If the MDMA is good quality, 100mg would be a good first time dose. If the stuff is lower quality (and you know it is, having tried it yourself already) then he could start with 130-150mg, but just be aware that even with lower quality MDMA if it's his first time that could be too much.

I'd advise he avoids redosing too for his first time, since you don't want to put him off trying it again by letting him binge and have a horrible comedown/hangover.
 
no no no, your friend is a pillock. If he does half a gram he would chew holes in his cheeks lol
 
I have been arround this forum for a long time and one thing I learnt early was that there are some people out there who simply cannot handle even an average dose of mdma.

For that reason first timers first dose should really be much less than a standard dose.

If taking pills then I would suggest 1/2 pill and then if all is OK one hour later then take the other half.

It is shit easy to take a little more each hour.

It is near impossible to untake it.

After the first experience then you will understand your body and mind better and how it is likely to react.



In regards to the tolerance to alcohol statement..............they are not in any way related. Tolerance to alcohol will not mean any tolerance to mdma. Furthermore the faster you start taking large ammounts of mdma the faster you will not only build a tolerance but also cause the chemistry in your brain to change so that you can no longer feel the magic.
 
You could have a massive tolerance too alcohol but still whitey on some high grade, there is no cross tolerance a tall between alcohol and any other drug. Alcohol isn't even on the same stratosphere as MDMA if you do that drug for the first time then .5 could easily end up with your mate being completely floored and then crying on blue light on that MDMA some how destroyed his mind lol.
 
I could do half a gram over 8 hours. If you do it as a "starter dose" it's going to kick you in the bollocks big time mate. I am 6ft 4 and now a little over 200lb, and my start dose is about 150-200mg.
 
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It's obviously MDMA but I think the dealer said it's cut with something harmless, I can't remember what it was exactly.
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it would be wise to show a little more concern about cutting agents. test your product.

and that's a pretty fucked up dealer. cutting MDMA crystals is retared. and which dealer would openly tell you his crystals are cut with something specific? that amounts to admitting he's the one doing the cutting.
 
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