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Heroin H? Tenth shot vs 1mg Dilaudid Shot

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macbrown21

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Sorry if I shouldn't have started a new thread. Couldn't really find an appropiate one.

Anyways can someone compare a tenth shot of #3 to a 1mg Dilaudid shot. Strength wise/feel wise.

I know it really depends on how good the dope is. I think its pretty strong. I've been reading a lot of people say it takes 10 minutes to feel snorted dope. This stuff I'll get a burn and feel what I call a "snorting rush" almost instantly.

I've had a lot of Dilaudid shots at the doctors, but have always had phenergan, toradol and sometimes diazepam shots before. I got a pretty decent tolerance. When I've been doing dope it's usually around a tenth at once snorted or smoke occasionally. I just get paranoid with dope and always like to be careful. I did a snorted tenth about 2 hours ago and got a good "snorting rush", but no real nod.

Just looking for a little feedback and opinions.

Thanks in advance

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Never shot dope before. Just Dilaudid
 
I am assuming that you are from Europe since you said you get #3 heroin. I would post this in the regional thread found here. A lot more people with experience with dope in your area will be able to answer in that forum.

In any event, all I can say is that the rush from dilaudid is very good, but the high does not last nearly as long as a heroin high.
 
Nope I'm from Western US. I just don't well what else to call it. Tan powder I guess. I get this stuff and tar sometimes. Not like the white shit in NY.

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Is it just me, or is bluelight incredibly slow today. Like over a minute to do anything. You mentioned dope last a lot longer than Dilaudid. Wondering if people think its a waste to snort the tan powder. I don't really enjoy needles that much, but if there is one thing I hate its wasting good drugs. Snorting this stuff i have now definitely gives a good "snorting rush", doesn't seem to get me noddy. Snorting a tenth feels kinda like snorting an OC80 to me.
 
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I don't know if I'd consider getting IV Dilaudid equal to shooting it yourself (especially since you'd more than likely be getting it in pill form)..
Many people will say that Dilaudid has a better rush than Heroin, but no legs.. as in it doesn't last much longer than 5-10minutes. 100mg of Heroin is definitely going to be MUCH more than 1mg of Dilaudid. I read many peoples posts that agree that 1 bag of powder dope is about equal to 80-100mgs of Oxy. Of course, this can vary significantly with different batches of dope.
I'd say 80mgs of Oxy IV is about equal to 8-12mg of Dilaudid IV.
So.. I assume one bag of Heroin (I haven't ever done H) is about equal to 8-12mgs of Hydromorphone.
This is all just from my own experience, don't take anything I say as absolute fact.
 
Its #4 you get then. Theres a decent amount of people on here that can help you with this answer, its just a matter of time. Also, they are usually in basic drug discussion.
 
I've just had the Dilaudid at the docs. I was editing while you were posting, but I'd say a tenth is equal to an OC80. Also I don't know if what I'm really doing is a tenth. I got a grip, my buddy did some of it. Then divided it into 9ths. So its probably closer to .07-.08. Whenever I get the Dilaudid they always give me 1mg at once, wait 10-15 minutes, then again and again until I'm comfortable. Its so tough for me to tell though because I know that the phenergan and diazepam really adds to the effects. And I'm certainly not shooting myself up with phenergan before shooting dope.

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I thought #4 was china white? This is tan/brown powder with some little rocks. Where I get it if you get a 20 bag you get tar, if you get a grip its this powder. So I'm assuming they use this powder to make the tar. In the end I guess I can never tell until I actually do it. I'll probably shoot around .04-.05 tomorrow and see for myself. I don't think I'd have any problem shooting a tenth, but no sense in being stupid.
 
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1 bag of dope or a .1 is 100mg. usually only 10mg or 10% is actual heroin. so if you have a tenth of a "bag" you could have anywhere from 1-10mg of heroin. so it could be anywhere from way weaker to way more intense than 1mg Dilaudid.

Everything is compared to morphine. Dilaudid is 8 times as strong as morphine.
Heroin is 2-3 times as strong.

You should stick to snorting and leave shooting up to your doctors.
 
I got a grip or a gram. So what I'm calling a tenth is 100mg. Probably a little less since some was done before dividing. But no there is no way of telling how much of it is actual heroin. I'm usually having 4mg of dilaudid in around 30 min and not getting that high since I'm at the docs and that's not their goal lol. Thanks for the advice.

While we're at it. What do you guys think is less wasteful smoking or snorting? Never smoked the powder, smoking the tar I've got in the past seems a little wasteful. Felt like I was getting more out of "snorting" the tar.
 
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muvolution said:
1 bag of dope or a .1 is 100mg. usually only 10mg or 10% is actual heroin. so if you have a tenth of a "bag" you could have anywhere from 1-10mg of heroin. so it could be anywhere from way weaker to way more intense than 1mg Dilaudid.

Everything is compared to morphine. Dilaudid is 8 times as strong as morphine.
Heroin is 2-3 times as strong.

You should stick to snorting and leave shooting up to your doctors.
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Lol, where'd you get those stats? Or where do you get your shitty dope?
 
I get my dope in New Orleans where it's super stepped on.
Actually I get my dope from the doctor, best dope in the world.
 
I'd take a tenth of east coast powder or decent tar over dilaudid any day.

Heroin definitely. And don't try to smoke powder dope its a huge waste, I tried in my young junkie days.

I don't have an accurate comparison cuz I've only done dilaudid 3-4 times and heroin probably thousands of times. But as far as the dope I was getting (good stamp bags) at least 4mg (if not double) diluadid for one tenth of heroin .
 
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My doctor always injects the Dilaudid so slow. I just wanna yell push that shit in already! That would probably be a bad idea. Other than that he's a great dope dealer lol.

For actually controlling the pain I kinda think the morphine/phenergan mix IM'd works better. Takes a little while, but it lasts longer. The phenergan burns like a mother though and I like the Dilaudid IV so much I don't dare say I wanna switch.
 
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I'd take a tenth of east coast powder or decent tar over dilaudid any day.

Heroin definitely. And don't try to smoke powder dope its a huge waste, I tried in my young junkie days.

I don't have an accurate comparison cuz I've only done dilaudid 3-4 times and heroin probably thousands of times. But as far as the dope I was getting (good stamp bags) at least 4mg (if not double) diluadid for one tenth of heroin .
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exactly. a stamp bag is like a .1, and the lowest you would go would be 4mg Dilaudid, let's just say 10mg of Dilaudid = 15-25mg of Diacetylmorphine, so the good stamp bags you were gettin were probably like 25% AT MOST.
 
Well I just took one of my tenths, in reality probably .08, threw it in a shot glass with some water and drew it up evenly into two syringes.

Blasted off the first one and its so fucking good. Too good. After about 3 minutes I ripped the needle off the second syringe so I wouldn't shoot it. Gonna just shoot it up my nose in a minute. Can't believe how good that shit is. So much "heavier" than the dilaudid, in a good way. I was kinda paranoid 'cuz I've never given myself an IV shot, gave them to others a bunch of times. Didn't have any problems hit on the first try. I've been so excited to shoot up all day when it was time my veins were already sticking out, I probably didn't even need to tie off lol.

I don't think I'll be shooting dope again, its too good.

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Thanks I won't be smoking any now that I got that advice. It seemed like smoking the tar was a waste too, it was good, got me high, but snorting the tar seemed way better. I used to be a coke-head in college, I think I just like snorting drugs. And after all that I'd say one of my kinda small tenths is equivalent to about 8mgs dilaudid, maybe even more.
 
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I'd take dope any day of the week over Dilaudid. Dilaudid has a rush that takes over your body like nothing I've ever felt before, but after that initial rush, there is no high to speak of whatsoever. Dope has FARRRR better legs than Dilaudid and the rush is still damn good too. So to compare doses, 1 bag=4mg HM as far as the rush, but I'd probable redose with another 4mg before I would think to shoot another bag of dope, so all said and done 1 bag of good dope=4mg HM x2.
 
Yea I don't feel like I want any more dope right now and its been almost 2hrs. I woulda wanted more HM an hour ago. Though when I get the HM/Phenergan/Diazepam combo it seems to last a little longer. Not like this though, definitely not. I'm one happy camper right now.
 
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