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pyrrhicvictory

pyrrhicvictory

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Got a couple questions about dope. In all the years I've been using dope, it always came in stamp bags, 10 banded together as a bundle (I live in the North Eastern United States).SWIM is selling it by weight, saying that a gram is equivalent to 2 bundles of stamp bags, and is charging almost as much as I would normally pay for 2 bundles.

So my questions are these:
1) Is it common to buy it in this form? Has anyone else experienced this?
2) How much weight does a bundle usually have in it? I always thought that a
bundle was a gram, each of the bags containing .1 of a gram.
3) Would paying the equivalent to 2 bundles for one bag with a gram in it be a
rip off?
4) I am on suboxone 16mg, but I've slowly been tapering it down to the 4mg
that I took today. How long would I have to wait until I would get anything
out of using dope assuming I take no more suboxone after the dose I took
this morning?

I'm trying to make sure this doesn't break any of the forum guidelines, but if it does please feel free to shut it down, and I apologize to the mod in advance if this is the case. I'm still fairly new to this posting business, so I apologize if this is not appropriate for a question.


Oh, and where I live rigs are hard to come by, so I generally reuse them at least two or three times. I know the best way to go is to use a new one each time, but if that is not an option, what is the most number of times you would recommend using a rig before finding some clean ones?

This is sort of a lame post, and I know it's not much of a discussion topic, but I would appreciate some advice/input/or replies of any kind. If it really is that lame feel free to flame me if it is deserved.


Thanks everyone for putting up with stupid people on BL like me.

-pyrrhicvictory
 
Where I live we just get tar, and it is always sold by weight. Never in "bundles." So I can't help you there.

If you take a suboxone at 7am in the morning you can do h around midnight and get high, maybe even a couple hours sooner. But if you wait until the next day you'll get even higher. I say this from experience, I did not look up scientific facts.

If I was you I'd save some suboxone for when you're coming off the h. I wouldn't just finish up with the taper, then start using again. That's what I did last time and it made WDs a bitch. Also, suboxone will maintain your tolerence, so don't expect it to be gone.

Also. Say you took a suboxone in the morning and then you shoot up a lot at night and dont get as high as you intended, whatever you do don't shoot up more because once the suboxone wears off you could overdose.
 
Blind Melon- I appreciate the advice. I took 4mgs of bupe around noon today and it will be at least 10 or 11 pm tomorrow when I would try to take a shot. Is that enough time that I'll be able to get something out of it?


-pyrrhicvictory
 
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Answers: A] It is difficult to answer any of your questions just by your proffered descriptions but I will offer generalised answers and hope that they do you some good.

A glassine of heroin, that is to say one of those bags in your bundle, almost always has 1/10th of a gram in it if it is in NYC or its immediate suburbs EXCEPT if those suburbs are in northern N.J. Then it is half that amount. So, 100 milligrams in NYC, 50 milligrams in Northern New Jersey.

Prices also differ as do bulk amounts. Bundles always contain 10 bags which in NYC would generally equal a gram. In N. J. though it would be 1/2 a gram for the same price. The major difference between the two gewographical areas is that you are more often than not ablt to get a decent discount per bundle when buying in N.J.

The next bulk amount above bundles are "bricks." QA brick in NYC is 10 bundles, meaning 100 bags, translating into roughlt 10 grams of very stepped on heroin. In N.J> though, a brick is only 5 bundles.

Pricing: A bag is 5 or 10 dollars , almost always 10 for the last few yearsa. Bundles from 60 to no discount. NYC bricks can be had for 550 to no discount, Jersey bricks from 275 to no discount.


B] Is it common to buy in loose, gram weight form? Yes in many circles it is. In other parts of the country, Florida comes to mind, it is the way things are usually done. However, there in the N. E. , excepting Conneticut and north of there, it is not an easy thing to be had.

C] The price of street quality dope in gram form, rocked or loose, is 55 to 80 dollars. Anything high and you have been had.

D] Generally speaking, you would have to wait 3 days but if you have been on it for any length of time it could be considerably longer depending on your receptor affinity. give it time, do not waste your heroin.
 
1. Yes. Here it depends how cool you are with the dealer, how the dealer sells, or how far up the chain you are.

2. Varies. On average its anywhere from half a gram to a gram. I've never seen bundles, or talked to people that put more than a gram in one.

3. Again, it depends. How's the quality? Do you have any other options? How safe is it to acquire it this way vs. other ways?

4. I would wait at least three days.
 
suboxone question
wait 36-48hrs after ingestion of suboxone
3 days, yeah right, if you have the patience
I would think you would start to feel withdrawal from the suboxone by 2 days. I would say ideally 2 days. But I can never wait so 36hrs.

Also the less suboxone the less wait time.
0-12mg 12-24hrs wait time
12-24 24-48hrs
24-32 at the very least 36hrs or it better be some really good dope to overpower the suboxone

3 days!! YEAH RIGHT ;-)
 
Alright, I didn't know I was alowed to post prices or anything like that but here is what I usually pay. In the Harrisburg (PA) area loose bags vary from 10 dollars (usual) to 15 dollars (if they claim it is "amazing" which usually means you are getting ripped off, these are the people to avoid), a bundle of 10 goes for anywhere from 60-90 depending on the person and not so much the quality which always seems to be the same. I was led to believe these bundles for 60-90 dollars contained a full gram. One time during an unfortunate police encounter after having a bundle confiscated, he told me I was lucky that one was less than a gram or else the charges would have been greater. He said it weighed out to like .7 or .8g (he didnt know I had already skimmed some out of a few since they were intended for someone else). Now this guy I was talking about who sells it in weight wants 160 for a gram. I was never positive of the weights of bags/bundles before, but that sounded outrageous at the time. So he is trying to convince me that is enough to make 2, possibly 3 bundles out of and is more than worth what I would be paying, he is actually trying to convince me that is a deal. The only thing I am not sure of is the quality of his product, the usual product around here is fairly mid grade, except the occasional fent laced bags which you hear about on the news killing people.

Hopefully that should provide enough info for you all and fill in the holes in my original post.

My only other thought is that since the usual product out of the bags around here is mediocre, is it possible that he might be holding onto more pure stuff since its still in weight and (at least looks like) it hasn't passed through as many hands to get cut/put into bags like the stuff the street dealers sell? I don't know how high on the chain he is (just recently met him) but I would say I am back on the bottom rung after taking an 18 month suboxone hiatus. Everyone I knew who used to cut me huge deals has either moved out of town, or is doing time in federal prison. So in this position my options as to suppliers are limited, but I am not desperate enough to get ripped off big time if that is the case with this guy.



-pyrrhicvictory
 
Try it out first. He should let you sample it, if not I'd be weary of its quality.

How much do you use and how often?
If you use 1-3 times a week and its decent stuff, its probably worth it. If you're dependant, I'd look for a better deal.
 
where im from (chi) I can get bundles (12bags=1.1gram-ish) now I am with the thought nd knowledge from ''A'' resource that one bundle does in fact= 1 gram. now that by no means I am getting one gram of raw but a gram none the less, do i like that fact? not so much but it could be worse..

as far as the works are concerned,
I have used a rig a good 4-5 times with proper care which means several flushes after the bang is done, also flush 4 times with rubbing alchohol, clean the needle and boot with a wipe then I get a new wipe and draw in all the liquid into the syringe and let sit no longer than 4-5 days till i us again..

If you ever seen a needle after 3 uses under a microscope you owuld get violently ill when thinking about how we put that into our vein...

as far as the sub, if you get down to 4mg id wait at least 36-48 hours before banged however you will get mixed advice but no way earlie than 24....
 
^
Most people I know use bleach to clean them.
You could get them online. I never have(got them off people/exchange), but some members here swear its safe and cheap.
 
^^srsly

I could get 100 29gauge for 21.99 now that cant be beat...online is the very best justy if you go that route and dont live alone be aware the box says ''syringes'' on it..i found out the hard way..

I was always weirded out by the bleach but again I would think the bleach would actually clean better than the rubbing/wipes...
 
cleaning the syringe is not the major issue with re-using works

even after one use the needle is so damaged that you are seriously harming your veins if you re-use...=\

...hey...but you can always sharpen them with a matchbox =) (i'm JOKING!!!1)
 
Someone else suggested acquiring them over the internet, my only concern is that in PA they are illegal to have without a script, so would they ship a box here? Before going on bupe I used to take the handful I had to an exchange in Philadelphia, which is a little bit of a drive for me, and the reason I reused them (and plan to reuse them) a couple times unless an easier option such as the internet idea presents itself as realistic.

pyrrhicvictory
 
You could always save your works for a while, then come down here to Philly and use the exchange. They'll give you 10 for the first one and then 1 for each one afterward.

Or just buy a box of 100 online, then just keep turning them in to the exchange after you use them all up. They'll give you 100(and even more) at one time, so essentially you could keep getting free needles....
 
Phrozen- Are you from Philly? I used to goto that exchange. I just traded one for one though, I never really hung around too long or talked to anyone, didn't know you could get that many.

pyrrhicvictory
 
My only other thought is that since the usual product out of the bags around here is mediocre, is it possible that he might be holding onto more pure stuff since its still in weight and (at least looks like) it hasn't passed through as many hands to get cut/put into bags like the stuff the street dealers sell? I don't know how high on the chain he is (just recently met him) but I would say I am back on the bottom rung after taking an 18 month suboxone hiatus. Everyone I knew who used to cut me huge deals has either moved out of town, or is doing time in federal prison. So in this position my options as to suppliers are limited, but I am not desperate enough to get ripped off big time if that is the case with this guy.
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If he is getting fair quanities at a time there may be pretty fair odds that it is less stepped on than street stuff. Up here in Canada it is sold by the gram, or by 1/4 gram on the street. Can't comment on the quality compared but from the sounds of things it is pretty much the same , we just pay more up here, which seems about the same as northern nj .

How well do you know this guy? because you could just try a bit and test it out. really the only way to know for sure.
 
pyrrhicvictory said:
Phrozen- Are you from Philly? I used to goto that exchange. I just traded one for one though, I never really hung around too long or talked to anyone, didn't know you could get that many.

pyrrhicvictory
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Yes.

As long as you got your card they'll give you what I said earlier. If you don't have it anymore, just create a new one. Ask for a starter kit, and if you don't have any to trade in, the max they'll give you is 10.

Here's their site with their location and schedule.
http://www.preventionpointphilly.org/services/services-syringe.html#schedule
 
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