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H - burns like hell - what gives?

canadianchesirecat

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So I live in British Columbia, Canada (not vancouver or victora, away from the coast more in the middle of bc, if that matters) and i can get a few kinds of dope. the first is ave quality, a 1/4 gets me nice and good but i have a huge tolerance too (i shoot 100mg of morphine in one hit and get a nice headrush, some pins/needles, after i'm not really that high at all, a little tired rarely nod). with a 1/4 of this stuff i feel decent, has a decent rush if i push it in really quick, but after i'm not much for high either, do another 1/4 and i'm pretty noddy and whatnot. this stuff feels fine when going in and if i miss, don't hurt much more than i'd expect.

then there's this other stuff. it's a little cheaper when bought by the half ball or larger, but the same when bought by the flap (0.1) or 1/4g... when u shoot this stuff, it hurts like FUCK. even when fully in a vein, you sometimes have to reregister (2 reasons, 1 to make sure that you're still in cuz it hurts so bad, 2 to dilute it a little with blood and to give the vein a second to empty some so it doesn't burn as bad). when its gone in all the way, there's even more burning, up the arm a little. now, if you miss, HOLY FUCK. it feels like your arm is on fire and like you're shooting pure acid if you are missing. if you miss most of the shot you end up with big swelling, lots of pain, and sometimes (not every time but about 3/4 times) i've had large swelling for days, lots of pain, itchyness. i've worried about an abcess even cuz it hurts that bad... but its getting better so i havne't gone in yet. hoping not to.... *prays*

anyways, any idea what the hell is in this other stuff? is it maybe like that cheese shit people are talking about in texas? i can't imagine whats in it.... my dealer says he's heard its powdered methadone, but he also has told me he honestly doesn't know, he's just heard rumors. i also know this stuff does come from vancouver, but there's lots of shit in van i'm sure too. i do also know he doesn't cut it himself AT ALL...he just buys it brings it up and sells it. i also know he's been told that its 30% pure (he was busted and they tested it or some shit.... something to do with not getting charged as bad cuz it wasn't pure so he wasn't endangering lives as bad?). his dealer also has told him that they (the "men") cut it to 30% unless competition gets better then they cut it a little less. now personally, i find this shit less good quality than the other, even though they apparently monitor their competitors (i know this other stuff comes from a big player in van too...although through more hands, oddly enough). i can do a few 1/4's over the course of an hour, and after maybe 3 or 4 depending on how long between them i'll be nodding prety alright. if i do 2 right in a row (2 shots) then i'll get *alright* rushes but not much for a high. if i do like 0.35 or so in one hit, then i get a nice enough rush (burns like fuck though, even if it all hits a vein) and i get an alright high for a short while but then i don't notice it much later, no nod at all though unless i do another 1/4 on top... i know its dope and not fentanyl because a) the sickness stays away easily long enough and b) the high always lasts long enough to be dope, its just not that strong.

any ideas though? i can't for the life of me figure this out, but its kind of pissing me off (not that i can do anything about it).

also, i got a connect that apparently came into a brick of pure, like pure pure, and he doesn't know what to do with it. he was asking about how to cut it and i said i woudln't mess with cutting it much, because you'll just fuck it up and end up with a bunch of hot spots and a bunch of dead spots. my suggestion is to just sell it as equivilant doses (i.e. tell someone that the bag ur selling weights 0.033 grams but has the same amount of actual drug as whats in a 0.1g bag, etc etc). so someone buys 10 grams, they actually get 3.3.

my question is... is it worth asking him to sell me a bunch of it, and will it actually *feel* better than the cut stuff, if i do the equivilant amount? like if i did 0.083 grams (1/4 * 0.3) would i get the exact same feeling as doing about a 1/4 of my other shit (minus the burning, obviously), or would it somehow be better or feel cleaner?

thanks in advance for any ideas or replys!!!
 
No clue what's in it. It could be anything...


One things for sure though, heroin shouldn't burn. I wouldn't be shooting that if I were you.


As for using ratios to figure out your dose. Doable, but you don't really know how pure either of the stuff is.
 
It could be any substance that can be mixed with powder Heroin. Common additives and inert bulking cuts do not cause burning or pain when IV'd. Someone fucked up somewhere along the line of grower-extractor-cook-mule-cutter-mules-cutters-dealers-lesser dealers. Happens often.

Try to avoid using it. If that happened to me I wouldn't even want to attempt purifying it, or diluting it as much as possible with water (which are the probably the only 2 reliable options to alleviate the pain).

However, if something in there is causing you burning pain, you ought not to try and covor up the pain, and simply buy someone elses junk. You may want to tell the person selling this shit too in case they don't use it themselves and thus may not know.
 
Whenever I miss a shot with tar H in so cal it burns like hell, no idea why it would burn if you hit a vein though. I'd probably stop using it if my dope did that lol.
 
First, thanks for the responses so far.

I do know that its not just some fuck up this time cuz its been
This way for years. Literally 3 years ago this guy had
The same dope with the same effects, I've no clue
What it could be?

Any thoughts on the powdered 'done? Anyone shot it
Before? What about diphenhydramine? I heard that
Dope is soetimes mixed with this shit to make it more
Noddy, but I've heard it birns.... Any truth?
 
Well.... A few spoits that I've missed are now causing big
Problems.... They got somewhat infected, to the point
Where they bulghed out some, and got red and sore

Well today I decided to poke a small home in one spot
And when I squeezed it puss came out.... Yikes

I took a 21 ga needle and made a prick and spent about
5 mins squeezing the shit outta there, thru about 10 holes
And tons and tons of puss came out....

It was really gross but I got most of the puss out
And I'm gonna keep doing it for a few days, I hope it goes
Down. I don't really know what to do, I can NOT
Go to the dr ubtil a LAST RESORT so I'm gonna keep pushing
This puss out and hope for the best
 
Well.... A few spoits that I've missed are now causing big
Problems.... They got somewhat infected, to the point
Where they bulghed out some, and got red and sore

Well today I decided to poke a small home in one spot
And when I squeezed it puss came out.... Yikes

I took a 21 ga needle and made a prick and spent about
5 mins squeezing the shit outta there, thru about 10 holes
And tons and tons of puss came out....

It was really gross but I got most of the puss out
And I'm gonna keep doing it for a few days, I hope it goes
Down. I don't really know what to do, I can NOT
Go to the dr ubtil a LAST RESORT so I'm gonna keep pushing
This puss out and hope for the best

in not an everyday iv user but that dont sound to good i would be scared. but now that i think about it, dont that happen when you skin pop or whatever its called? maybe it aint bad, but if it aint to late dont let it get infected!
 
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Well.... A few spoits that I've missed are now causing big
Problems.... They got somewhat infected, to the point
Where they bulghed out some, and got red and sore

Well today I decided to poke a small home in one spot
And when I squeezed it puss came out.... Yikes

I took a 21 ga needle and made a prick and spent about
5 mins squeezing the shit outta there, thru about 10 holes
And tons and tons of puss came out....

It was really gross but I got most of the puss out
And I'm gonna keep doing it for a few days, I hope it goes
Down. I don't really know what to do, I can NOT
Go to the dr ubtil a LAST RESORT so I'm gonna keep pushing
This puss out and hope for the best

jesus christ man, go to the fucking doctor. Just because you are squeezing out the the puss DOES NOT mean you are squeezing out the infection. The puss is there as a result of the infection, you need a full course of some intense antibiotics at this point to clear that shit up.

Go to a doctor man. There is a very real chance that you could lose your arm if you keep going about this the way you are. You really want to spend the rest of your life as an amputee, knowing that all you had to do was simply suck it up and go see a doctor?

The absolute worst that's going to happen is you'll get a few judgmental looks and a lecture or two. If the cost of avoiding those things is losing your arm, is it really worth it?
 
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Is it reaLly that bad? It doesn't hurt all that much and I don't feel sick
Or anything..... Do u think its something in the dope
Or just something cuz of the miss?
 
Well the thing about smack is it could realisticly be anything in it, brick dust, powdered milk, baby lax, even kpin. So really I have no idea, but the weird part is if it burns so bad, you never stated you feel any different like sick or anything. Im thinking maybe your prepping it wrong or something. Really not sure homie, just buy the "pure" shit if you can.
 
The burning is usually asign of being out of the vein.

If you are in and it is burning like that then it has to be the cut. And it must be really cut. Lucky here in TO. Got some nice purish white (and brown sometimes) chunky stuff going around for the last year or so. Seems the quality is only gettting bettr here.
 
I know the purify is decent compared to other shit around
And other cities..... About 30-40% which, as low as
It sounds, is close to most dope.... Dope at 80% will
Ill a lot of people because its rarely that strong

Anyways, it burns in or out of a vein, way more when
Out, I know its obviously a cut that is birning but what
Could it be????

Also, these puss spots are hurting a lot less and the
Swelling is going down, think I'm on my way to
Being in the clear? I know over the years I've been ok thru a lot
 
my god, what is wrong with you?

yes, you might be saving yourself some extra trouble by ridding the abscess of most of the pus, but it will NOT GET BETTER just by doing that.

the infection will remain and probably is going to get worse because of what you're doing. as it was stated before, you need a course of antibiotics.

get your shit together, dude.
 
Yeah that sucks, my suggestion: don't shoot the secons stuff. Also, try to find some tar, I just like it better, have less problems with cuts and stuff.
 
Usually when I get drugs that burn when shot its either left over chemicals which is usually the case with meth, but something else I thought of is maybe it was epsom salt or some other kind of salf because salt is one of the worst cuts to miss a shot with I cant really think of any bad cuts for H really but ive definitely had stuff that burned no mater what you do with it(IV, snuff etc...)

Also if hes got really pure H I wouldnt fuck with it either. There are special techniques for cutting stuff like bulk heroin or coke and im not sure what these teks are and I doubt he does either if he's asking you, but yer I just keep the bags relatively small because the last thing you guys want is people dropping dead everywhere and the H getting traced back to your guy. Anyway good luck and be careful, as im quite sure you know, H is fucking dangerous...
 
I guess I haven't gone to a dr yet cz I hjsvent thought
Of a good reason to tell her I got this "mystery bump"
On my arm and leg.... I can't say from shooting...
Also can't tell my wife, gotta think of something at least
Plausible, even if the doc don't beieve, something that
Could make sense, esp. To the wifey
 
Uh. Of course you can say it was from shooting. WTF?

How else is the doctor going to help you if you aren't honest with them?

They're not going to call the cops or your wife on you.
 
i seriously hope you have sought medical attention.

and yes, you have to tell them it's because you were IV'ing drugs. otherwise you won't get adequate medical care.

ffs, man, before you lose a limb..
 
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